Mass driver got speeding ticket in CT

[brianmanahan]

I was cruise-locked at 75 in 65 on I-90, middle of nowhere in western NY en route to Niagara Falls.

This a****e trooper pulls me over and gave me a $350 ticket.

A**f**k trash.

sounds like he was just doing his job

protip: dont go more than 7mph over. i have friends who work in state patrol, they have never seen a speeding ticket less than 8mph over the speed limit, at least in a 60 or 65 zone. zones with smaller limits have lower tolerances so 5mph is a better rule there.

 

[Jeff7]

74 in a 55? Man, you'd never get pulled over for going 74 on the freeways here. Hell, 80 is pretty much the norm... if traffic is moving of course.

I was cruise-locked at 75 in 65 on I-90, middle of nowhere in western NY en route to Niagara Falls.

This asshole trooper pulls me over and gave me a $350 ticket.

Assfvck trash.

It is interesting to see the differences in allowable speeds in various areas.

I was in southern Louisiana awhile back, and it felt like a police state. Police cars every block or two for a stretch, waiting to catch people speeding. By "speeding," I mean ">= 1mph over the limit." Left lane drivers were doing the limit, or slightly below. Right lane drivers were 5-10mph below the limit. That, plus speed cameras and red light cameras...it just felt ridiculous.
And their school zones were reduced-speed for the entire (profitable) school day.


Pennsylvania: 70+ in a 55mph is common, at least as far as I've seen. On the way to work, I see 45-50 in a 35. (Though for the record, I'm not entirely sure why that's a 35mph zone.) 80+ in a 65, particularly along I-80. The only time I saw someone pulled over while doing 80+ was when he was also weaving in and out of traffic like he was wrestling a badger.
I think they do crack down on school zones, though ours here are only reduced-speed for maybe 40-50 minutes at the start and end of classes.

 

[Lifted]

The trooper said if I pay it, no points will be added to my insurance. Is this accurate? How would my auto insurance in the state of MA handle this? What if I just don't pay it at all, then what insurance wise.

I don't know about CT and MA, but the tri-state area has such an agreement in order to collect the ticket revenues. Get a ticket in a neighboring state, pay the fine, and they won't report it to your insurance company. Don't pay the ticket, or fight it and lose, and they report it.

It's actually a pretty good deal, but it does tend to get people from out of state pulled over more so than locals for similar driving offenses.

 

[Oceanas]

Well, you should read up on this of which MA and CT are 2 of the 3 members. If you don't take care of your CT ticket, your license can be suspended until you do. I'm not sure how often they actually do that though.

 

[Polarhound]

Well, you should read up on this of which MA and CT are 2 of the 3 members. If you don't take care of your CT ticket, your license can be suspended until you do. I'm not sure how often they actually do that though.

Every single time. You aren't going to get "lucky" and have them not pull it.

Yes, there is a "driving school" for MA drivers. This school is only after you have had five surchargable incidents within a specific period, but does NOT erase the points. All it does is let you keep your license to begin with.

Like it or not, unless a judge throws out the ticket those points are going to be there for seven years.

 

[marmasatt]

It's well deserved too. We drive wicked retahted up in here.

this does not surprise me, massachusetts gets the prize for state with the most retarded drivers, and boston gets the same prize for cities.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I'm a Masshole, I drive in CT almost daily. It's to my understanding that the LEO is not being honest. Points will be applied. The only offense that won't, in my limited knowledge, is a CT ticket for talking on the phone, because that's illegal in CT but not in MA. Texting tickets still apply, since that's illegal in both states.

My problem with tickets like these is the selective process the LEO's apply the laws. 95, on a Sunday? Chances are you were last in line so you go bagged. When I end up in the 203 area code, if I'm doing 55, people will blast their horns on the way by me.

 

[dank69]

I could talk out of my ass like everyone else in this thread or I could just google it, find the official site and find out that if you pay the ticket you will have no points added to your record:

http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/paying-traffic-tickets.php

Pay Ticket
(Plead Nolo Contendere or No Contest)

• Pay the fine.
• Avoid driving record points.
• Experience increased auto insurance rates.
• Possibly attend court-ordered Operator Retraining Program.

Learn more below

 

[ch33zw1z]

@dank69. It'd be nice if it was explained further on "how the point's system works" page. They do give a nice breakdown on infractions and points, but does simply paying the ticket autmatically waive the points? Does that work the same for MA residents or any other out of state residents?

So pay the ticket, pay your increased auto insurance rates, no points? Gotta pay to play, eh

 

[jaedaliu]

sounds like he was just doing his job

protip: dont go more than 7mph over. i have friends who work in state patrol, they have never seen a speeding ticket less than 8mph over the speed limit, at least in a 60 or 65 zone. zones with smaller limits have lower tolerances so 5mph is a better rule there.

Depends on what you drive and where.

Buddy of mine went to school in upstate NY (RPI.) Anyways, he got a ticket at 80 (limit was ?65?) anyways, he kept decreasing his cruise control by a few mph, and kept getting tickets. Lowest was a couple above the limit. So he finally figured out he had to drive at/under speed limit.

I guess if you have a benz, they figure you can afford your fine.

 

[sdifox]

I could talk out of my ass like everyone else in this thread or I could just google it, find the official site and find out that if you pay the ticket you will have no points added to your record:

http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/paying-traffic-tickets.php

And if you read further you'll see one point for speeding. Whoever put that info together should be shot. How can they say the point is waived? It's always fine and maybe points. The court clerk may commute the offense to a no point violation of equal monetary penalty if you request a pre court meeting, but I have never heard of this being done automatically without any effort from the driver's part.


Edit: wtfbbq, CT does waive the points if you plead no contest and pay the fine. That is fucked up.

 

[dank69]

And if you read further you'll see one point for speeding. Whoever put that info together should be shot. How can they say the point is waived? It's always fine and maybe points. The court clerk may commute the offense to a no point violation of equal monetary penalty if you request a pre court meeting, but I have never heard of this being done automatically without any effort from the driver's part.


Edit: wtfbbq, CT does waive the points if you plead no contest and pay the fine. That is fucked up.

I think you mean fucking awesome.

 

[JTsyo]

And if you read further you'll see one point for speeding. Whoever put that info together should be shot. How can they say the point is waived? It's always fine and maybe points. The court clerk may commute the offense to a no point violation of equal monetary penalty if you request a pre court meeting, but I have never heard of this being done automatically without any effort from the driver's part.


Edit: wtfbbq, CT does waive the points if you plead no contest and pay the fine. That is fucked up.

Also I think insurance companies look for points on your license so if you don't get the points, it might not be caught. You'll want to check with your company though.

 

[SunnyD]

I was cruise-locked at 75 in 65 on I-90, middle of nowhere in western NY en route to Niagara Falls.

This asshole trooper pulls me over and gave me a $350 ticket.

Assfvck trash.

Here's a hint: You were doing > 72mph on I-90 in NYS. The magic number on I-90 in NYS has always been 72mph. Back when the speed limit on I-90 was 55mph, the ticket cap was 72mph. When it changed to 65mph, the ticket cap was still 72mph. It will always be 72mph.

Oh, and you're the asshole that was speeding. :whiste:

And if you read further you'll see one point for speeding. Whoever put that info together should be shot. How can they say the point is waived? It's always fine and maybe points. The court clerk may commute the offense to a no point violation of equal monetary penalty if you request a pre court meeting, but I have never heard of this being done automatically without any effort from the driver's part.


Edit: wtfbbq, CT does waive the points if you plead no contest and pay the fine. That is fucked up.

Here's the rub... (I'd assume) that info is for CT licensed drivers. For out-of-state drivers, once the info gets passed to your home state, your home state "charges" you with whatever your typical home state infraction would be in terms of whether you get points or not on your license. All I know is that when I was reading up on how NYS handled out of state tickets, they values for points and whatnot were completely different between what FL would have applied to a license and what NYS would have.

 

[allisolm]

I could talk out of my ass like everyone else in this thread or I could just google it, find the official site and find out that if you pay the ticket you will have no points added to your record:

http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/paying-traffic-tickets.php

Since the driver is not a Connecticut resident, this would not apply and it seems to me that the question was about the effect on his insurance, not points on his driving record.

According to the Massachusetts Driver's Manual, chapter 2, pages 47-48 here,

"Out-of-State Violations
Massachusetts shares driving-record and criminal-violation information with other states.
Some traffic offenses from other states will be on your driving record.
They will be treated by the RMV like they happened in Massachusetts.
Out-of-state violations can cause your license to be suspended. They can also cause your
automobile insurance cost to go up.

Surchargeable Events
Motor vehicle violations and at-fault accidents are called surchargeable events. Each
surchargeable event counts toward a possible license suspension. Most out-of-state traffic
convictions count as if they took place in Massachusetts

Surchargeable events also affect your motor vehicle insurance. The Merit Rating Board runs the Safe Driver Insurance Plan (SDIP). Under SDIP, your insurance premium is
determined by your driving record. If you are a safe driver, your rate may go down. Your
rate will increase if you are convicted of moving violations

 

[dank69]

Since the driver is not a Connecticut resident, this would not apply and it seems to me that the question was about the effect on his insurance, not points on his driving record.

According to the Massachusetts Driver's Manual, chapter 2, pages 47-48 here,

"Out-of-State Violations
Massachusetts shares driving-record and criminal-violation information with other states.
Some traffic offenses from other states will be on your driving record.
They will be treated by the RMV like they happened in Massachusetts.
Out-of-state violations can cause your license to be suspended. They can also cause your
automobile insurance cost to go up.

Surchargeable Events
Motor vehicle violations and at-fault accidents are called surchargeable events. Each
surchargeable event counts toward a possible license suspension. Most out-of-state traffic
convictions count as if they took place in Massachusetts

Surchargeable events also affect your motor vehicle insurance. The Merit Rating Board runs the Safe Driver Insurance Plan (SDIP). Under SDIP, your insurance premium is
determined by your driving record. If you are a safe driver, your rate may go down. Your
rate will increase if you are convicted of moving violations

Mass is one of the 5 states that is not a member of the DLC, so I assume that means CT is not obligated to share violation information with MA.

 

[Polarhound]

I could talk out of my ass like everyone else in this thread or I could just google it, find the official site and find out that if you pay the ticket you will have no points added to your record:

http://www.dmv.org/ct-connecticut/paying-traffic-tickets.php

MA auto insurance companies are under a separate set of uniform rules and apply them to MA policies in their own way regardless of what CT offers.

If you have a MA-based policy and you get a ticket, that ticket will be reported to the MA RMV, and immediately after, automatically to your insurance. Even if you appeal, points will still be applied in the meantime. If you win, you can ATTEMPT to appeal it with MA RMV, but anything short of either a complete dismissal or proof of non-factual information related to the location and date of the infraction and you WILL fail.

How else do you think the "Experience increased auto insurance rates" part would be applied anyways? Rates are set by zone, vehicle driven and points on your record. In MA they can't arbitrarily raise your rates without points. That is how they track it.

Short version: You are attempting to apply CT rules to MA laws and regulations. This is just another version of "talking out of your ass", as you put it.

 

[Polarhound]

Mass is one of the 5 states that is not a member of the DLC, so I assume that means CT is not obligated to share violation information with MA.

Yes, they do share information, and have for many years.

 

[allisolm]

Mass is one of the 5 states that is not a member of the DLC, so I assume that means CT is not obligated to share violation information with MA.

Connecticut an Massachusetts are both members of the Driver License Agreement (DLA which reads t me like they are both required to submit info to the other.

 

[actuarial]

It is interesting to see the differences in allowable speeds in various areas.

I was in southern Louisiana awhile back, and it felt like a police state. Police cars every block or two for a stretch, waiting to catch people speeding. By "speeding," I mean ">= 1mph over the limit." Left lane drivers were doing the limit, or slightly below. Right lane drivers were 5-10mph below the limit. That, plus speed cameras and red light cameras...it just felt ridiculous.
And their school zones were reduced-speed for the entire (profitable) school day.

I agree with your sentiment (and would feel the same), but it still strikes me as funny that 'it felt ridiculous' driving in an area simply because people were following the law.

 

[dank69]

Connecticut an Massachusetts are both members of the Driver License Agreement (DLA which reads t me like they are both required to submit info to the other.

Right, but if there are no points on your license, what is there to share?

 

[dank69]

Yes, they do share information, and have for many years.

But are they obligated to?

 

[dank69]

MA auto insurance companies are under a separate set of uniform rules and apply them to MA policies in their own way regardless of what CT offers.

If you have a MA-based policy and you get a ticket, that ticket will be reported to the MA RMV, and immediately after, automatically to your insurance. Even if you appeal, points will still be applied in the meantime. If you win, you can ATTEMPT to appeal it with MA RMV, but anything short of either a complete dismissal or proof of non-factual information related to the location and date of the infraction and you WILL fail.

How else do you think the "Experience increased auto insurance rates" part would be applied anyways? Rates are set by zone, vehicle driven and points on your record. In MA they can't arbitrarily raise your rates without points. That is how they track it.

Short version: You are attempting to apply CT rules to MA laws and regulations. This is just another version of "talking out of your ass", as you put it.

So if CT doesn't put points on your license, then how can Mass raise your rates?

 

[W.C. Nimoy]

Yes I am a Mass(hole). But not too bad of one But I did get a $219 speeding ticket today on Rt 95 while driving through that glorious state. The trooper said if I pay it, no points will be added to my insurance. Is this accurate? How would my auto insurance in the state of MA handle this? What if I just don't pay it at all, then what insurance wise.

I think he meant if you "paid" it right then, to him.

 

[Capt Caveman]

this does not surprise me, massachusetts gets the prize for state with the most retarded drivers, and boston gets the same prize for cities.

You don't live there, so it can't be.