Mass Effect 2 is the best sequel ever

[Todd33]

For a space opera video game I thought it was freaking epic. But then again you apparently see character development as busy work so... to each his own.

Yes, they were busy work.

"Hey the galaxy is going to be destroyed, we need your help!"

"Maybe, but can you help me first? I need to find my lost pair of shoes."

"Umm, ok...."

So 90% of the missions were doing LOL worthy quest to make your team mates happy, meanwhile the main plot, as bad as it was, got ignored. By the time I got to to the end I just wanted my crew to die and just wanted to see the credits. I was bored.

And the smoking man rip-off was cringe worthy.

 

[Red Storm]

ME1 > ME2.

The setting, the story, the gameplay, all of it I found more enjoyable in the first game.

Inventory was never a problem for me in ME1 because I wasn't obsessed with making as much money as possible. I carried what I (and my squad mates) needed and that's it, the rest was always omni-gelled.

I didn't particularly care for either game's ending, but ME2's final battle was ridiculously lame.

 

[Stuka87]

ME1 for me had a better over all story. However, the character building was not as strong as it is in ME2.

The combat in ME2 is soooo much smoother than ME1. I actually went back to play ME1 recently and had a hell of a time trying to play it again because of how clunky the controls are.

I actually found the final battles of both games to be lame. I loved the games up until the last battles.

Inventory was never a problem for me in ME1 because I wasn't obsessed with making as much money as possible. I carried what I (and my squad mates) needed and that's it, the rest was always omni-gelled.

The problem with the inventory is that is constantly filled up preventing you from getting more items. Money was never ever an issue in ME1 (and mined resources did nothing as well) for me. I always had more than enough. The EXTREMELY annoying issue was having to sell things ONE AT A TIME! Damn was it annoying.

One thing I hope they get better in ME3 is the moral dilemmas. The way they made you choose in ME1 was kind of lame. ME2's was less of a hard choice, and had more to do with how you played that given section. But I would really love to see a more multi-faceted moral system.

Overall I enjoyed ME2 more than ME1.

 

[s1njin]

Thank you for reminding me to grab a copy of this game. Totally lost track of it, now I need to have it.

 

[Childs]

I never played ME1, but played ME2. I will say, Uncharted 2 seems like the best sequel in that everything was better in every way. There doesnt seem to be the same universal feeling with ME1 vs ME2.

 

[akahoovy]

ME2 is so far from what a Bioware rpg used to look like that I don't think ME2 is an rpg. It's almost an on-rails tactical shooter with voice acting.

I've already said this in a different thread, but if you haven't played ME2 yet, you can skip it and wait for 3.

 

[micrometers]

is teh adept a good class?

 

[RavenSEAL]

I LOVE this game. Holy crap. Best $5 steam purchase ever.

It fixes everything I hated about Mass Effect 1, and it is the first bioware game since KOTOR that I really liked. Hell, the combat IMO is more fun than Halo.

It is the best implementation of RPG characteristics also in a video game, so that it's about customization of your character in meeting various challenges, and it doesn't slow you down with minute number crunching. Also, no looting bodies, no annoying inventory management, none of the dumb parts of RPG's. Fantastic!

So I'm about 3/4 through so don't spoil anything please...

but I'm thinking of doing a second play through. Right now I think I'm a vanguard, basically I have a charge ability and a shotgun. What other fun classes are there to play? The engineer and the stealth class look like they might be fun.

Oh, and the story, it's so much better than ME1. ME1 bored me to tears with the predictable story, but this one has a story that has me wondering who to trust.

I wonder if Dragon Age 2 is of a similar flavor to ME2, compared to its predecessor.

 

[irishScott]

Yes, they were busy work.

"Hey the galaxy is going to be destroyed, we need your help!"

"Maybe, but can you help me first? I need to find my lost pair of shoes."

"Umm, ok...."

So 90% of the missions were doing LOL worthy quest to make your team mates happy, meanwhile the main plot, as bad as it was, got ignored. By the time I got to to the end I just wanted my crew to die and just wanted to see the credits. I was bored.

And the smoking man rip-off was cringe worthy.

Yeah, the quests were nothing like that.

You dislike character development, plot, and want straight-up action. Got it. I suggest you go back to Halo.

That or you're one of those sheltered, introverted nerds who has no concept of emotional distraction/unfinished business.

 

[irishScott]

ME2 is so far from what a Bioware rpg used to look like that I don't think ME2 is an rpg. It's almost an on-rails tactical shooter with voice acting.

I've already said this in a different thread, but if you haven't played ME2 yet, you can skip it and wait for 3.

The issue is game saves tying over. Apparently a lot of decisions you make in ME2 can have an effect on the plot of ME3.

 

[Northern Lawn]

I would say System Shock II is the best sequel ever.

 

[blackened23]

I LOVE this game. Holy crap. Best $5 steam purchase ever.

It fixes everything I hated about Mass Effect 1, and it is the first bioware game since KOTOR that I really liked. Hell, the combat IMO is more fun than Halo.

It is the best implementation of RPG characteristics also in a video game, so that it's about customization of your character in meeting various challenges, and it doesn't slow you down with minute number crunching. Also, no looting bodies, no annoying inventory management, none of the dumb parts of RPG's. Fantastic!

So I'm about 3/4 through so don't spoil anything please...

but I'm thinking of doing a second play through. Right now I think I'm a vanguard, basically I have a charge ability and a shotgun. What other fun classes are there to play? The engineer and the stealth class look like they might be fun.

Oh, and the story, it's so much better than ME1. ME1 bored me to tears with the predictable story, but this one has a story that has me wondering who to trust.

I wonder if Dragon Age 2 is of a similar flavor to ME2, compared to its predecessor.

No offense but you sound like a console action gamer. The kind that can't pay attention long enough to play a real rpg

 

[micrometers]

Okay, beat the game. it's spoilers time.

So the very last mission basically has you choosing who dies, right? A little annoying.

And I beat it on vanguard. I started a new game as an infiltrator and I think I like it. Stealth + snipe + hack AI looks like a fine class.

Story-wise it was excellent, far better than ME1. There wasn't any of the boring formality of the first, and now you're with a renegade morally gray organization. Plus, there's less emphasis on being a spectre, which was just a stupid title I felt, conferred by the council.

I"ve played old school RPG's in the past, like way back to the megatraveler series, so I know about RPG's. And I think that they're obsolete, seriously. Objectively, turn-based RPG's especially are incredibly stupid, almost playing an excel spreadsheet in many ways. And they're basically vestiges of an earlier era when computers were so limited that they couldn't you know render a game as beautiful as Mass Effect 2. ME2 I feel is the best use of RPG systems in that it makes the game more customizable than HALO so you have many different approaches to combat, and yet it has real time action to keep things interesting.

oh, and any interesting secrets in the game?

 

[Zorander]

ME2 is to me more Action-RPG than it is an RPG game. The storyline (just the Main and Companion Quests really) is linear and there is not much exploration you can do in the different worlds.

I won't argue with the beautiful graphics, intense combats and (IMHO more streamlined) plot though. They all gel together beautifully and make for a memorable game overall. It definitely is a far better-accomplished sequel than DA2 has been to the Dragon Age franchise.

Love the catchphrase "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL"...

 

[zinfamous]

Story-wise it was excellent, far better than ME1.

wow, OK.

just...no. no way in hell.

lol

 

[micrometers]

oh, and miranda is one of the hottest 3d rendered models ever.

though *spoiler* I was expecting her to betray the character and for the "rescue" at the beginning to be a setup.

 

[blackened23]

oh, and miranda is one of the hottest 3d rendered models ever.

though *spoiler* I was expecting her to betray the character and for the "rescue" at the beginning to be a setup.

The only thing ME2 did better was the side quests and hacking. The fault I found with ME1 were the side quests were kind of boring, but i'm in disbelief that you think the story is better in ME2. What the, how. The combat / story in ME1 were better, and the game was more engaging, IMO I admit the side quests in ME1 were pretty bad, they improved the side quests a lot in ME2.

I felt ME2 combat was basically constantly take cover shoot take cover shoot. I loved ME2 but compared to ME1, I liked ME1 combat better. There were combat styles you could play in ME1 that just didn't work in ME2.

 

[Red Hawk]

Yes, they were busy work.

"Hey the galaxy is going to be destroyed, we need your help!"

"Maybe, but can you help me first? I need to find my lost pair of shoes."

"Umm, ok...."

So 90% of the missions were doing LOL worthy quest to make your team mates happy, meanwhile the main plot, as bad as it was, got ignored. By the time I got to to the end I just wanted my crew to die and just wanted to see the credits. I was bored.

And the smoking man rip-off was cringe worthy.

So...wiping out the geth Heretics, finding the cure for the krogan genophage, assuring the quarians' loyalty to your intentions, etc. weren't important? If you have so much of an issue with that, you could always just, y'know, skip them.

And hey. TIM was a boss.

ME2 is so far from what a Bioware rpg used to look like that I don't think ME2 is an rpg. It's almost an on-rails tactical shooter with voice acting.

I've already said this in a different thread, but if you haven't played ME2 yet, you can skip it and wait for 3.

NO.

Skip ME2 and you won't understand half the plot of ME3.

is teh adept a good class?

Actually, the adept's pretty weak in ME2, probably the worst class.

 

[s44]

You can save everyone, btw. Just get everyone loyal and pick the right people for each job (a lot of the character quests are so you remember who the heck you're dealing with and what their true talents are and aren't).

It's easier if you have the two DLC companions.

But the first thing you have to do now that you've beaten ME2's base game: buy and play Lair of the Shadow Broker. The best content in the entire ME series.

Actually, the adept's pretty weak in ME2, probably the worst class.

Depends what difficulty level. At the lower levels, there's not so much endless defense-stripping before you start throwing people around and it's pretty good. At Hardcore/Insanity, you really need to master companion power synergy or you're toast.

Sentinel is probably the strongest at all levels.

 

[irishScott]

The only thing ME2 did better was the side quests and hacking. The fault I found with ME1 were the side quests were kind of boring, but i'm in disbelief that you think the story is better in ME2. What the, how. The combat / story in ME1 were better, and the game was more engaging, IMO I admit the side quests in ME1 were pretty bad, they improved the side quests a lot in ME2.

I felt ME2 combat was basically constantly take cover shoot take cover shoot. I loved ME2 but compared to ME1, I liked ME1 combat better. There were combat styles you could play in ME1 that just didn't work in ME2.

I'd say the story in ME2 was better quality, but suffered from the middle-child syndrome most trilogies have. ME1 had the whole end of the universe thing going, ME3's going to have the same, don't want to one-up your big finale in terms of plot so you have to tone it down a bit, spend some times on the characters. Which is what they did. There was a lot more characterization in ME2, and it did its job. I legitimately cared about keeping most of my crew alive by the end (and kept them all alive as a result), having fully explored the side-quests and every option I could find in my discussions with them.

Also, the DLC adds about 20-30% more plot to ME2, and decisions in it will affect ME3. I don't want to put any spoilers in, but maybe I feel the plot is of superior quality because I played all of the DLC.

 

[terry107]

Okay, beat the game. it's spoilers time.

So the very last mission basically has you choosing who dies, right? A little annoying

If you play your cards right no one dies.

 

[micrometers]

So I got it on the steam sale...how does DLC work out? oddly enough, the DLC's look like they would cost more than the game itself cost ($5, deal of the year)

 

[DirthNader]

Not 100% sure how the PC DLC works out (I'm console only this gen, please forgive me!), but main DLC should look like:

Lair of the Shadow Broker (excellent, but best played through after the main campaign)
Arrival (another one for after the campaign, sets up ME3)
Katsumi (new character, extra loyalty mission for her)
Overlord (solid review, but not plot critical)

Shadow Broker is the only must-play. Katsumi's loyalty mission was fun, but frankly I only bought that DLC because I wanted the new submachine gun for my infiltrator insanity playthrough.

 

[s44]

Yeah, you have to buy it with Bioware points, which means there isn't a price drop. Sometimes EA is lax and allows points to be included in Origin site-wide sales, but that didn't happen on BF...

Shadow Broker is still worth the full $8.

 

[gothamhunter]

I loved ME2 over ME1, even though I found both ME1 to also be incredible well done. It just...played better.

I think one of my favorite parts in the game was when I finally

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

DA2 WAS BETTER THAN DA1

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