Mass Effect Andromeda (2016)

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Mem

Lifer
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Vaults get boring fast. You have 5 (mostly empty) planets with five vaults to go through. Eh

Planet wise, it would of been nice if they let you the pathfinder choose which planets to colonize, having only five is really bad, it would of been great if they let you the player choose from a bigger pool of planets with different outcomes, but as usual they dumbed it down for the player and the game in general.
 

escrow4

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the description is pretty accurate - bad vs not bad all depends on your expectations..
if you know this is a console oriented third person shooter with adventure story set in different space opera settings and want to play it -> you may love it. otherwise, it is not half as bad as people slam it , they just built themselves a fetish to worship in particular IP space and feel almost hurt when it does not come out example they way they wanted it.

so to pass time while other RPGs come out (Kingdom Come Deliverance, Mount and Blade 2, etc) , it is more than 'ok'. the story has good moment, cinematics are good, exploration aspect is not bad either. on the bad side, there is very little that is left from RPG in their attempt to simplify it to oblivion (you don't need to read or listen to when NPC says in 90% of them knowing that you will be presented with one choice at the end 'yes , I take the quest', 'no, I don't', and then have a quest map handhold you through you telling you exactly what to do and where), controls are extremely console oriented and you can easily see the market their were shooting for. writing is of cause nowhere near Witcher 3 where I actually cared about what was written in both main game and its great expansions. attempt to be ultra PC to overcompensate whatever they are overcompensating for, also makes you shrug. when they attempt to turn entertainment into some political message it is simply not fun to participate it. if I really hate myself and my free time and want to listen to political platform I would turn on CNBC or something similar with moving heads preaching at me.

Fetish? Eh? Andromeda is just poor compared to the first three. Finished it off today - just under 58 hours in total at Level 57 with maxed out AVP and all five world viability and overall 90% completion. It also is very deep in the customization system RPG wise. The problem is its meh. The plot reveals at the end with the angara, the jardaan/remnant, the Ryder family, the Salarian ark, the quarian (and more) arks are a direct setup for Andromeda 2 which is just a cop out. Meh in the end.
 

local

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The more I think about it the more I realize that I miss the more military focused originals, it was natural for the setting. Not that being non-military couldn't work but the kind of space hippy everything will be so great that we won't even arm our ships thing in this game is a bit nauseating. After the Turians showed up I kept expecting to find a dreadnought integrated into their ark or anything really to give me some validity to the expedition as a whole. Every single time someone expressed surprise that there were people that wanted to fight in Andromeda and they thought they left that all behind I wanted to punch my screen. Space is hostile, the unknown is scary and given thousands of years of experience to the contrary in the Milky Way these idiots assumed that everything would just be flowers and rainbows in Andromeda.

Near the beginning of the game I was hoping you could put the Nexus leaders in their place and start gearing up for a fight. ME:A 2 needs a reality check. Drop this civilian no space guns pathfinder crap and give us some common sense in the next one.
 

escrow4

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The more I think about it the more I realize that I miss the more military focused originals, it was natural for the setting. Not that being non-military couldn't work but the kind of space hippy everything will be so great that we won't even arm our ships thing in this game is a bit nauseating. After the Turians showed up I kept expecting to find a dreadnought integrated into their ark or anything really to give me some validity to the expedition as a whole. Every single time someone expressed surprise that there were people that wanted to fight in Andromeda and they thought they left that all behind I wanted to punch my screen. Space is hostile, the unknown is scary and given thousands of years of experience to the contrary in the Milky Way these idiots assumed that everything would just be flowers and rainbows in Andromeda.

Near the beginning of the game I was hoping you could put the Nexus leaders in their place and start gearing up for a fight. ME:A 2 needs a reality check. Drop this civilian no space guns pathfinder crap and give us some common sense in the next one.

I also found it odd when going after the Archon that your pilot (or someone) mentions the Tempest isn't armed. I get the whole first contact will be off if you front up with a warship, but still better be caught with it then without it.
 

KentState

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I also found it odd when going after the Archon that your pilot (or someone) mentions the Tempest isn't armed. I get the whole first contact will be off if you front up with a warship, but still better be caught with it then without it.

Even the Nomad is an unarmed dune buggy. However you can craft 100 weapons and murder everything in site out in the field.
 

local

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Also the Kett have invaded entire worlds but our settlements are completely immune to attack with just a pair of turrets guarding the main entrance.
 

simas

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"Fetish? Eh? Andromeda is just poor compared to the first three"

... may be some of it pure nostalgia.. ME1 (try to replay it now) , bad graphics, bad inventory system, very linear and very short. ME2 was good storytelling (ignore the terminator reaper at the end) with very good writing. ME3 - urghh. WTF?WTF? WTF? Since when galactic readiness belong in 'RPG'? the forced "which of your crew you want to die" choices (Tali/Legion,etc)? The ending? taking everything I fought against in ME1 and making that to be 'good ending', come again? I hated ME3 so to me MEA is ok, much longer and better than ME1, infinitely better than ME3, worse than ME2.

I think real problem is that whose you wanted RPGs don't actually have good choices now - RPG as a genre has very few options right now. no, stupid slasher may be action but calling it 'action-rpg' is hating the actual role playing. similarly fallout 4 become mediocre shooter +Sims , Bethesda simplified theirs into console action trash as well. thankfully there was still witcher series, there are newcomers like kingdom come deliverance , may be mount and blade again. Mass Effect was never an RPG and straying from it even further. no, having 100 guns to equip does not make something an RPG..
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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"Fetish? Eh? Andromeda is just poor compared to the first three"

... may be some of it pure nostalgia.. ME1 (try to replay it now) , bad graphics, bad inventory system, very linear and very short. ME2 was good storytelling (ignore the terminator reaper at the end) with very good writing. ME3 - urghh. WTF?WTF? WTF? Since when galactic readiness belong in 'RPG'? the forced "which of your crew you want to die" choices (Tali/Legion,etc)? The ending? taking everything I fought against in ME1 and making that to be 'good ending', come again? I hated ME3 so to me MEA is ok, much longer and better than ME1, infinitely better than ME3, worse than ME2.

I think real problem is that whose you wanted RPGs don't actually have good choices now - RPG as a genre has very few options right now. no, stupid slasher may be action but calling it 'action-rpg' is hating the actual role playing. similarly fallout 4 become mediocre shooter +Sims , Bethesda simplified theirs into console action trash as well. thankfully there was still witcher series, there are newcomers like kingdom come deliverance , may be mount and blade again. Mass Effect was never an RPG and straying from it even further. no, having 100 guns to equip does not make something an RPG..

I long for the day when I can have even the barest of choices within a game. I fondly remember in Fallout 1, first town you come to, where you have to fight a pack of slavers for some objective. First time I realized I couldn't talk my way past them, or fight them all. So I got an idea in my head, pick-pocket planted a pack of dynamite on a kid that was freely able to run around the buildings. After a few quick save/reloads, kid ran in, goo flew out, and I mopped up two near-dead slavers. Stuff like that seems to escape modern "cinematic" development.
 

escrow4

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Feb 4, 2013
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"Fetish? Eh? Andromeda is just poor compared to the first three"

... may be some of it pure nostalgia.. ME1 (try to replay it now) , bad graphics, bad inventory system, very linear and very short. ME2 was good storytelling (ignore the terminator reaper at the end) with very good writing. ME3 - urghh. WTF?WTF? WTF? Since when galactic readiness belong in 'RPG'? the forced "which of your crew you want to die" choices (Tali/Legion,etc)? The ending? taking everything I fought against in ME1 and making that to be 'good ending', come again? I hated ME3 so to me MEA is ok, much longer and better than ME1, infinitely better than ME3, worse than ME2.

I think real problem is that whose you wanted RPGs don't actually have good choices now - RPG as a genre has very few options right now. no, stupid slasher may be action but calling it 'action-rpg' is hating the actual role playing. similarly fallout 4 become mediocre shooter +Sims , Bethesda simplified theirs into console action trash as well. thankfully there was still witcher series, there are newcomers like kingdom come deliverance , may be mount and blade again. Mass Effect was never an RPG and straying from it even further. no, having 100 guns to equip does not make something an RPG..

Mass Effect is a trilogy. Play all three back to back and you an excellent grounded story based RPG, even if it is RPG lite and you don't need dice and a notepad and a copy of the latest edition of the DnD rulebook either. Andromeda has a poor story with some interesting insights on history and exploration that are reduced to plot points for No 2. Meh.
 

Qbah

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Finished the game yesterday (97% completion and "best" ending - which is just a difference for one secondary character...). While it was fun in general, I don't think I'll be replaying it anytime soon on hardest difficulty. There's really nothing different I can do / say in the game that has any meaningful impact on the outcome and I don't really care that much about any of the characters to be honest. The only remotely interesting crew members are Cora and Drack (they've been on my squad whenever possible). The rest are either forgettable (Vetra, Gil, Kallo) or annoying (Suvi - ugh.... and whiny Liam... though his loyalty mission had funny dialog). The Angara race is also not something that interested me (though their story is rather unique once you do learn all of it). Also, they all seemed like children rather than adults to be honest... I miss characters like Miranda, Tali or Garrus... Legion... Interesting, evolving, with depth. There's really no memorable character in this game to be honest. And I did put in like 100 hours into it.

The Remnant are an interesting concept. They are very different from Protheans or Reapers once you eventually learn who they are.

Anyway... Time to put it away until some SP DLC shows up to further the story more. As it is right now, I've experienced everything the game's story has to offer.
 

aigomorla

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Ive just been playing the multiplayer a lot.

But its really feeling like a bad grind.
I heard its very simular to how destiny is, and i can relate to the guys saying they hate RNG boxes.

Anyhow, i was able to unlock a ultra rare class, the Assari Duelist, and well, i can say the ultra rare classes seem all OPAF.

The human kineticist that i saw was also OPAF, and i hard the Angarian ultra rare is OPAF as well.

Sigh, seems like EA wants to cash out on those RNG boxes, as u can bypass the grind and just pay to not play so u can open more of those RNG boxes.
 

Mem

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Reminder 1.06 patch is out,


Mass Effect: Andromeda Patch 1.06 Notes

Fixed issue that caused singleplayer difficulty to impact multiplayer

Improved performance and stability

Various improvements to cinematic scenes

Fixed issue where SAM would mistakenly tell Ryder they have new email

Conversation options will no longer appear “greyed out” if new content is available

Improved legibility of subtitles

Maximum Nexus Level increased to 29

Single player balance improvements at higher difficulties.

Fixed issues with player animations getting stuck when jumping or changing direction repeatedly

Increased the number of autosaves allowed

Special items will not carry over into New Game+

Fixed issue where subtitles would not appear while waiting at the dialogue wheel if subtitles were disabled

Fixed issue that could cause AVP to reset to zero for all planets except Kadara

Weapon and armor vendors now carry inventory once player reaches Level 61

Chest armors now have level restrictions

Bonus items—such as Pathfinder Armor—can now be deconstructed

Fusion Mod of Resistance no longer continues to apply evade damage once unequipped

Improved responsiveness of control sticks

Fixed clipping issue on Sara Ryder’s casual jacket

Added graphics options to toggle Motion Blur and Depth of Field

Fixed issue where Remnant VI would stop attacking

Turbocharge will not deplete spare ammo when used on a weapon with the Vintage Heat Sink augmentation

Fixed interaction with datapad in the Search for the Remnant Drive Core mission.

Fixed issue where squadmate could not be revived if killed by a fiend at Site 2

Swapping a dead squadmate at a loadout will not cause them to die permanently

Nexus tram now operates during Nexus Reunion mission even if player has not completed Prologue

Fixed issue where player could romance both Cora and Peebee

Fixed issue where player could romance both Vetra and Peebee

Taking the left path in the Havarl dungeon will not block progression on Remnant Scanner mission

Fixed issue on H-047C where enemies could get stuck inside a rock, making them unkillable

Fixed issue where player couldn’t hide Ryder’s helmet after completing Ark Natanus mission

Fixed broken Nomad Shield Crafting mission

Fixed health issues with Architect’s leg that prevented completion of the fight

Frequency mission on Voeld is no longer blocked if player leaves the area after scanning the meteorite.

Missing Science Crew mission no longer blocked if Ryder kills the Architect before finishing objectives

Leaving the Nomad while falling out of bounds no longer results in infinite loading screen

Fixed issue where Nomad jump control was not remapping

Fixed issue where Cora slowly fell back to the ground after charging an airborne enemy

Improved performance on Eos when approaching or fast travelling to Prodromos

Loading auto-save will not block progress after kett encounter near Site 1 power relay station

Eliminated player fall through on Tempest after loading autosaves in space

Reduced the cost of Strike Team equipment and improved its effectiveness

A default Ryder name can now carry over to New Game+

PC – Fixed issue where dialogue choices would auto-select when using mouse and keyboard

PC – Improvements to display when running at different resolutions

PS4 – Fixed a crash that occurred when sitting in main menu for more than two minutes

PS4 – Fixed crash that occurred when moving from multiplayer back to the main menu

Multiplayer

Fixed issue where player would crouch repeatedly while interacting with device

Player’s deceased character no longer falls through the floor after an Ascendant attack in the extraction zone on Firebase Icebreaker

Improvements to reduce lag for players and hosts

http://blog.bioware.com/2017/05/09/mass-effect-andromeda-patch-1-06-notes/
 

Dahak

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Reminder 1.06 patch is out,

Huh... wonder if i missed anything... oh well wont matter for a while.. have completed it two weeks ago and will be a while before another run.
Bunch of nice fixes that should have been in 1.05 honestly
 

Mem

Lifer
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have you tried it and is there any performance improvement on it? On the previous version i often get some random FPS on few scenes and i don't really know if i should upgrade it or not.

Not yet, finished the game however, never had any performance issues with my 16GB ram and XFX 8GB RX480 Black Edition GTR card, playing Fallout 4 at the moment so will try to have a play of MEA over the weekend with latest patch.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
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Huh... wonder if i missed anything... oh well wont matter for a while.. have completed it two weeks ago and will be a while before another run.
Bunch of nice fixes that should have been in 1.05 honestly
The patch was mostly for multiplayer anyway. It really improved powers in the MP.
 

Stuka87

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I had halted playing waiting for patches (about 30 hours in). Will try to get into it this weekend.
 

Elixer

Lifer
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Still haven't started it, unsure if I should wait for the final patch or not.
Things do seem better, but, there are still animation issues from what I read.
 

Stuka87

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The latest patch did make the game smoother, fixed some graphical stuff that I would see now and then. This is really how the game should have launched. I think it would have been better received if it had shipped this month, rather than when it did.
 

Zenoth

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The latest patch did make the game smoother, fixed some graphical stuff that I would see now and then. This is really how the game should have launched. I think it would have been better received if it had shipped this month, rather than when it did.

Yeah, then again isn't that the story of... something like 80%+ of all games since at least the past decade or so.
 

Oyeve

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Greenman gaming is offering this for $30. Is it worth it? Also, is there built-in controller support? I will always be PC gaming first but I play on my PC whilst laying down in bed and KB+Mouse gaming is not for me anymore. The other PC mass effect games had no native controller support, hoping this one does.
 

Stuka87

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Greenman gaming is offering this for $30. Is it worth it? Also, is there built-in controller support? I will always be PC gaming first but I play on my PC whilst laying down in bed and KB+Mouse gaming is not for me anymore. The other PC mass effect games had no native controller support, hoping this one does.

Check Origin to see if it has controller support, pretty sure it does. But for $30, its definitely worth it. You can dump 100 hours into the game, thats pretty cheap entertainment.
 
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Oyeve

Lifer
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Check steam to see if it has controller support, pretty sure it does. But for $30, its definitely worth it. You can dump 100 hours into the game, thats pretty cheap entertainment.
Confirmed controller support! DLing now. 30 bucks is not bad at all!
 
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