Mass Effect Andromeda (2016)

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MeldarthX

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I think it is worth it. But towards the end of the third and you've fixed the thing and are about to make that last charge, turn off the game and pretend you just had a cliff hanger ending where the outcome is left to your imagination. You'll be much happier.


Why you can actually mod the whole thing out now with PC version; try and and get the extended destruction ending is far; far better.

Dark Matter was hint in ME1 - and was all over ME2 - and specially in the books before ME3 - and then nada; huge 90 degree turn off into left field. That's how bad the ending is; there is nothing about it until you get there.

As I said; ending was one man's ego gone way overboard. That's why a lot of the DLC was created to fix the damn issues of the ending; leviathan was one of those DLCs to fix the major issues with the damn ending. Citadal was to give bone to fan for what they thought was much better ending.

Then actual ending - they also reconned so many damn things in ME3 from the first two games; like we couldn't beat reapers with our weapons; when was already shown in ME2 we could with what we got off Sovereign - the weapons we got were a match.

Another was traveling; first two games; you had to have Mass Effects to get anywhere in the galaxy; 3...well
 
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MeldarthX

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I'm speaking for myself mostly (I'm saying "mostly", since I have seen other Mass Effect fans sharing the same thoughts), but the original Mass Effect is almost entirely self-contained. It was already very difficult, for me, back when Mass Effect 2 was freshly-released to "connect the dots" between it and the first.


Mass Effect: Original canon Mass Effect game, self-contained, no sequels exist since the lead writer didn't even manage to sink in his vision for the next game and was "taken over" by a new writer. Because of that I don't consider ME2 nor ME3 "canonically-linked" to ME1.



I repeat, thought, ALL of the above is my perception of the franchise, feel free to disagree.


Had to quote you on that as its wrong - Drew Karpyshyn - was lead writer for both ME1 and ME2 - and the series was created with trilogy in mind.



Mass Effect was originally conceived as a trilogy, but EA has confirmed that Mass Effect "will be a franchise for [EA] for a very long time" indicating that the franchise may extend beyond the planned trilogy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect_(video_game)#Franchise

http://www.stuffwelike.com/2008/02/12/ea-talks-about-burnout-skate-mass-effect-2-and-next-nfs/
 

MeldarthX

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I played Mass Effect 2. Is it worth playing 1 or 3?

Short end - yes - ME1 is a blast; is has some issues; but getting it on PC you can mod it to help with those. The mako is so much fun

ME3 is worth playing - specially with mods - I'd play it through first with original ending so you can go wtf. Extended.....and then mods to remove a certain *star child*

Technically I look at destroy ending as cannon and indoctrination; but that's me - *which we did give Bioware as a way out; but as I said Casey's Ego wouldn't do it*
 

Zenoth

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Had to quote you on that as its wrong - Drew Karpyshyn - was lead writer for both ME1 and ME2 - and the series was created with trilogy in mind.



Mass Effect was originally conceived as a trilogy, but EA has confirmed that Mass Effect "will be a franchise for [EA] for a very long time" indicating that the franchise may extend beyond the planned trilogy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect_(video_game)#Franchise

http://www.stuffwelike.com/2008/02/12/ea-talks-about-burnout-skate-mass-effect-2-and-next-nfs/

According to his own web-site Drew Karpyshyn was lead writer for ME1, and co-leader writer with Mac Walters for Mass Effect 2. And he left BioWare a few months before ME2 was completed as the writing was being "Passed over" to Mac Walters, according to that interview with Drew.

He (Drew) also wrote in one of his blogs dating back to 2013 (after ME3's release and as the ending's heated debates were still going on) that even though they did have certain themes in mind "for a trilogy" that it was only vague in the end, that no details (for a supposed "planned" trilogy) had ever been set in stone from the start (from the moment ME1 was written). A good example (as he mentions himself) was Cerberus, and how it starts like a nuisance and ends up being almost as dangerous as the Reapers themselves in the course of two years.

Anyway, I won't come back to all that whole ME3 and "lead writing" debacle.

I still stand by my thoughts on the ME "trilogy"; ultimately they ARE enjoyable games, but - in my opinion - only if you don't take them too seriously, to just burn some time with a cool sci-fi adventure consumed like fast food and forgotten the next day. And, side note, I have more than a thousand hours put into ME3's multiplayer which I indeed loved, it was the campaign that I generally disliked (except for a few missions and the overall Tuchanka story arc). I still think that ME1 was the overall best, but ME2 was an excellent game on its own and I still think that it is on my personal top three BioWare games to date (first being Dragon Age: Origins, second being ME1).

And, ultimately, I am curious (not what I would call excited, but curious nonetheless) about Andromeda. The CGI trailer revealed almost nothing but I do have hope that BioWare Montreal will make something at the very least decent out of it.
 

darkewaffle

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It looks good visually but I wasn't sure about the 'vibe' from the trailer. The casual browsing through the planets/terrains and the music gave it kind of a western/frontiersy feel to me. Which I think is an important part of the game in exploring new planets, discovering uncharted lands/space and so forth, I just wouldn't want to see that take precedence over or diminish the storytelling.

Basically I wouldn't want it to try to be Elder Scrolls/Fallout in space lol.
 

irishScott

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Meh, I learned my lesson and am looking forward to this game, now that I know not to get my hopes up for a truly choice-driven epic experience. I still despise what they did to ME3's ending, but only because they bald-faced lied about the nature of the game. A lot of us who are pissed off got suckered. We invested hundreds of hours in multiple playthroughs to see different endings... that turned out to be an absolute waste. We were also told that our choices were meaningful and virtually no two playthroughs would be alike... and ended up with all the meaningfulness of a TellTale game's choices. Oh and from a story-telling standpoint the ending was utter shit. The writers themselves seem to have been out of touch with the marketing in that regard, I remember reading that they "didn't expect players to develop such a sense of ownership over their Shepard." Lol yeah, that's only the line your marketing has been selling us since the first fucking game! That's only the thing that's spawned millions of discussions about your game!

But as for Andromeda, going in I'll assume it's a linear RPG telling a set story with a modicum of choice; basically like Wolfenstein The New Order. I can roll with that, but I won't be able to get into it nearly as much as I did the old games, and that's kinda sad. I'm still waiting for a truly choice-based AAA epic RPG. Wasteland 2 got it right. There's no real excuse for someone with Bioware's budget.
 
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geforce255

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I guess the way I view this all is that I watched all of Babylon 5 - so the actual story is well known to me.

The chance to play in a derivative narration as a video game was fun. Fighting the Shadows, er I mean Reapers was fun. Because the fundamental plot was lifted from what is perhaps the greatest sci-fi series in history, I can't really get too caught up in how the story was handled.
 

yinan

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Will not be buying or playing this because of how badly they screwed up ME 3. Why should I reward them for bad work?
 

Qbah

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Well I'm still angry about ME3's ending. What a slap in the face that was. So it's a wait for reviews before considering ME:A I did thoroughly enjoy DA:I, so at least there's that... And I am checking the Andromeda Initiative page now and then and progress towards my helmet
 

ArenCordial

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Well I'm still angry about ME3's ending. What a slap in the face that was. So it's a wait for reviews before considering ME:A I did thoroughly enjoy DA:I, so at least there's that... And I am checking the Andromeda Initiative page now and then and progress towards my helmet

Well from the GameInformer previews a few months back the activities in game make it sound like Inquisition in space. Problem for me was I was very lukewarm about Inquisition. The campaign was pretty decent for a very cliched plot but the side activities were like from a bad mmo. Its a hundred hour game with a good 20 hour campaign and 80 hours of crap filler.
 

local

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I still cannot place what it was I didn't like about Inquisition. It seemed decent enough I guess I just didn't like how it seemed the story should have been much larger than it was. And I can see the same problem happening here as well. A whole new galaxy to explore but the story of the game will be condensed into feeling too small with lots of silly side games to fill out the content.
 

AznAnarchy99

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This is the PC forums, so of course you should order for the PC. Especially if you'll be playing the co-op much at all.

I don't really plan on playing the MP at all since I never bothered with it on ME3

I'm debating over playing on my
27in, 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor or my 55in LG OLED C6 TV with HDR

Hard choice..
 

Red Storm

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I don't really plan on playing the MP at all since I never bothered with it on ME3

I'm debating over playing on my
27in, 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor or my 55in LG OLED C6 TV with HDR

Hard choice..
I wouldn't preorder in either case. Unless there's some kind of huge incentive to do so, better to wait out the immediate launch for any crazy bugs/issues reported within the first few days and then go ahead and get it if it's all clear.
 
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ImpulsE69

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I don't really plan on playing the MP at all since I never bothered with it on ME3

I'm debating over playing on my
27in, 1440p 144hz G-Sync monitor or my 55in LG OLED C6 TV with HDR

Hard choice..

Pfft. Play it on your phone. That's what REAL gamers do.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Thanks to ME3 I was able to wait until the DA:I GOTY was 30 bucks before picking it up, and I will be able to do the same for ME:A.

ME:3 guaranteed that I would never pre-order or day one purchase a Bioware game again. Good guy Bioware, saving me from disappointment with itself.
 

DaveSimmons

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Yep, BiowarEA has convinced me to never pre-order or buy on release from them again. Too much gouging with the DLC.
 

Aristotelian

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Has there been any information made available to us about online play other than that there will be online play? This is something that usually gets me to preorder a game (to be in the first wave of people that learn online mode).
 

ArenCordial

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There is not a ton known yet but it looks like multiplayer is going to pretty similar to ME3 with having specific classes and objectives. We know there will be micro transactions so gamble boxes are likely to appear.

They also are going to tie multiplayer into the singleplayer experience so you can go straight to multiplayer during the campaign. Apparently you can earn singleplayer rewards in multiplayer which frankly I hate. Keep the two modes separate I don't need to be incentivized to check out multiplayer and if my character gets something in game it should be because they earned it not because I decided to play a few matches.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Thanks to ME3 I was able to wait until the DA:I GOTY was 30 bucks before picking it up, and I will be able to do the same for ME:A.

ME:3 guaranteed that I would never pre-order or day one purchase a Bioware game again. Good guy Bioware, saving me from disappointment with itself.

Remind me what was the launch day issue again? Usually it's Ubisoft I hate preordering.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Remind me what was the launch day issue again? Usually it's Ubisoft I hate preordering.

Its not so much a launch day issue as the ending of the game was so disappointing that I learned well enough to just wait until the GOTY edition goes on sale and I can pick up the definitive edition. It also allows all the disappointing plot twists to be gently spoiled so i don't get myself all worked up.
 

Carfax83

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Combat gameplay and weapons video. Looks damn good I must say I think I will definitely preorder this sucker!

 

Mem

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PC specs are up,


System Requirements
MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

OS: 64-bit Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
PROCESSOR: Intel Core i5 3570 or AMD FX-6350
MEMORY: 8 GB RAM
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GTX 660 2GB, AMD Radeon 7850 2GB
HARD DRIVE: At least 55 GB of free space
DIRECTX: DirectX 11

RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

OS: 64-bit Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
PROCESSOR: Intel Core i7-4790 or AMD FX-8350
MEMORY: 16 GB RAM
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB, AMD RX 480 4GB
HARD DRIVE: At least 55 GB of free space
DIRECTX: DirectX 11


https://www.origin.com/gbr/en-us/st...t-andromeda/super-deluxe-edition#requirements
 
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