mass effect vs fallout

JF060392

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The theme of a game has a major impact on both the game play, and on which players will ultimately be interested in purchasing that game. In the case of Fallout 3, and Mass Effect, the overall theme of the game immerses the player in the story much like the theme of a novel would immerse a reader into the plot. In Mass Effect, the player is forced into creating an entirely new character. This presents the player with the opportunity of playing as a character who he can easily relate to, or as an entirely different character, who the player creates. When creating a character in Mass Effect, the player is first asked to select a name for that character. To complement the name which the player selects, the player is asked to create an appearance for themselves, based on an endless combination of facial features, physical structure, facial hair, race, and eye color. After this, the player is immediately briefed on the setting of the story. A prologue states that an artifact was found on Mars which boosted technology ahead 200 years. This theme presents itself in various ways throughout the game. The player easily notices the vivid and futuristic society in which humanity resides, and to complement this, the player hears a soundtrack of techno type music. Clearly, the player who would want to purchase Mass Effect is one who loves a futuristic science fiction theme. In contrast, Fallout 3 has a completely opposite theme. Although it begins with character creation, much like Mass Effect, the player soon notices the world is different. The setting of Fallout 3 is an urban, nuclear wasteland, featuring outdated technology. Although the game takes place in Washington D.C., the world is almost completely unrecognizable. The character is born in a fallout shelter, called a vault. There are many vaults in the D.C. metropolitan area, but the vault the character is born into was designed never to be opened. The character?s father, voiced by Liam Neeson, mysteriously leaves the vault. The character immediately panics, and is forced to follow. Upon leaving the vault, the player notices a vast wasteland, with few surviving buildings. Most of the area has turned into a radioactive desert, with few trees, and little grass in sight. As the player explores the D.C. wasteland, he or she notices that most of the technology lying around (such as cars, TV?s, radios, etc.) is made up of mostly technology invented in the 1950?s. The game soundtrack is made of 50?s music, and patriotic music, such as the Star Spangled Banner, and God Bless America. The theme of Fallout 3 appeals to the player who enjoys an adventure game, but with a bleak, dismal atmosphere. Overall, the themes of both games are vastly different, yet both impact on the game play itself, and on which players will buy the game. In Fallout 3, the character feels more vulnerable because of the hostile environment. In Mass Effect, the player feels less threatened because the society is civilized. These feelings ultimately determine which of the two games a player will buy.
In both Mass Effect, and Fallout 3, plot has a significant impact on the player?s experience. Mass Effect has a well developed plotline, which increases the player?s enjoyment of the game. The plotline of Mass Effect reflects on modern events, even though the setting takes place in 2180. The foundation of the political system found in the game is much like a parliamentary system which could be found in Europe today. In the game, the character is put through a series of trials and tribulations, in order to gain an honorary position on the council in government. The character is then put through an extensive and rather mundane knighting type procedure, with overly detailed dialogue which explains the position, known as being a spectre, and its job description. It is explained to the player that his or her character is the first and last line of defense against evil in the galaxy. From this point the player?s character, travels from planet to planet, stopping evil, and assisting people in need. This plotline leaves the player with a heroic feeling. The player feels like a paragon of virtue. In Fallout 3, the character is forced to traverse the D.C. wasteland, encountering small pockets of people that survived the nuclear holocaust, or bands of poorly animated mutants whom the character is forced to fight. In the game, the character goes from one place to the next trying to find his lost father. This quest goes on for most of the game, until the character finds out that his father is part of a government conspiracy to reforest the wastelands of D.C. The character?s father is killed off in a tidal wave of radioactive water during a desperate attempt to destroy the project that he is working on. He attempts to escape the Enclave, the last remnants of the original United States government. The character is then presented with a difficult choice, to go on a vendetta against the Enclave, or join them and inherit their cruel ways. Fallout 3 is overrun with difficult ethical and moral decisions which will impact the character throughout the plot. Through my experience, the most difficult choice that has to be made is in the beginning of the game. The player is asked whether or not he or she wants to destroy one of the last remaining civilized cities in the area. If the player decides to destroy the city, the character is rewarded with a residency in one of the only surviving hotels in the region. If the character decides to save the city, he is given an overabundance of money to spend. The plotline of this game has the player constantly choosing between good and evil. The influence of the plotline in a video game goes beyond the story, and directly impacts on the player?s emotions and experiences during the game play.
With the crumbling of our economy, one can still enjoy the fun of gaming, although we may have to choose carefully which game to purchase. Mass Effect clearly has better value for the price, taking into consideration, theme and plot. With today?s game boasting a $60 price tag, people should be cautious with the games which they purchase.
 

NYHoustonman

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I read the last paragraph, and yes, I'd rate Mass Effect higher than Fallout 3, but people should also note that it's not nearly as long.

Also moar paragraphs.
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
I read the last paragraph, and yes, I'd rate Mass Effect higher than Fallout 3, but people should also note that it's not nearly as long.

Also moar paragraphs.

lolwut? So you read the whole thing?

Both great games, for different reasons.
 

DaveSimmons

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TL;DR needs paragraphs, but I did read the last sentence:
With today?s game boasting a $60 price tag,

Is this a console blog posted to the wrong forum? PC games are $50 retail at release and if you shop carefully or wait a little while you'll pay much less.

Both are good games but I've put more time into FO3 and am finishing it before going back to ME. So my vote for the better game goes to Fallout as being "more fun."
 
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There is no way I'm reading that wall of text. Break it up. FWIW I haven't played much of F3 but from what I've seen Mass Effect kicks the shit out of it in fun factor.
 

Eeezee

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Oh my god please find the ENTER key on your keyboard and start using it! I was only able to read the last little bit

With the crumbling of our economy, one can still enjoy the fun of gaming, although we may have to choose carefully which game to purchase. Mass Effect clearly has better value for the price, taking into consideration, theme and plot. With today?s game boasting a $60 price tag, people should be cautious with the games which they purchase.

Hey, Diablo 2 has more value for the price than Mass Effect, how about we start discussing that next? I'd rather discuss the merits of one game vs the other than their relative price. But hey, maybe you did discuss that and I was just unwilling to read it in the wall of text. Oh well
 

AbAbber2k

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Mass Effect >>> Fallout 3. Though Fallout 3 is still a pretty quality game. I just wanted it to play more like an FPS. Don't like rolling to hit when I'm aiming dead center on a Super Mutie's forehead. If they wanted to give us AP/turn-based combat they should have made it a 3/4 overhead RPG.

To be honest, I never got into Fallout 1/2. LOVED Tactics though. Played through that at least 3 or 4 times.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
Mass Effect >>> Fallout 3. Though Fallout 3 is still a pretty quality game. I just wanted it to play more like an FPS. Don't like rolling to hit when I'm aiming dead center on a Super Mutie's forehead. If they wanted to give us AP/turn-based combat they should have made it a 3/4 overhead RPG.

To be honest, I never got into Fallout 1/2. LOVED Tactics though. Played through that at least 3 or 4 times.

Agreed, but Fallout 3 is an RPG. And there's nothing wrong with first-person RPGs - IMO it helps immersion. But I actually would have preferred wholly turn-based combat to what's there now. The problem with Mass Effect is, although the game is fantastic, there is no replay value. You can play as a different class, but you've still seen all the abilities in the first play-through and your decisions don't really make a big difference (except in a couple of cases).
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: JF060392
The theme of a game has a major impact on both the game play, and on which players will ultimately be interested in purchasing that game.

In the case of Fallout 3, and Mass Effect, the overall theme of the game immerses the player in the story much like the theme of a novel would immerse a reader into the plot. In Mass Effect, the player is forced into creating an entirely new character. This presents the player with the opportunity of playing as a character who he can easily relate to, or as an entirely different character, who the player creates.

When creating a character in Mass Effect, the player is first asked to select a name for that character. To complement the name which the player selects, the player is asked to create an appearance for themselves, based on an endless combination of facial features, physical structure, facial hair, race, and eye color. After this, the player is immediately briefed on the setting of the story.

A prologue states that an artifact was found on Mars which boosted technology ahead 200 years. This theme presents itself in various ways throughout the game. The player easily notices the vivid and futuristic society in which humanity resides, and to complement this, the player hears a soundtrack of techno type music.

Clearly, the player who would want to purchase Mass Effect is one who loves a futuristic science fiction theme. In contrast, Fallout 3 has a completely opposite theme.

Although it begins with character creation, much like Mass Effect, the player soon notices the world is different. The setting of Fallout 3 is an urban, nuclear wasteland, featuring outdated technology. Although the game takes place in Washington D.C., the world is almost completely unrecognizable. The character is born in a fallout shelter, called a vault.

There are many vaults in the D.C. metropolitan area, but the vault the character is born into was designed never to be opened. The character?s father, voiced by Liam Neeson, mysteriously leaves the vault. The character immediately panics, and is forced to follow.

Upon leaving the vault, the player notices a vast wasteland, with few surviving buildings. Most of the area has turned into a radioactive desert, with few trees, and little grass in sight. As the player explores the D.C. wasteland, he or she notices that most of the technology lying around (such as cars, TV?s, radios, etc.) is made up of mostly technology invented in the 1950?s. The game soundtrack is made of 50?s music, and patriotic music, such as the Star Spangled Banner, and God Bless America.

The theme of Fallout 3 appeals to the player who enjoys an adventure game, but with a bleak, dismal atmosphere. Overall, the themes of both games are vastly different, yet both impact on the game play itself, and on which players will buy the game.

In Fallout 3, the character feels more vulnerable because of the hostile environment. In Mass Effect, the player feels less threatened because the society is civilized. These feelings ultimately determine which of the two games a player will buy.


In both Mass Effect, and Fallout 3, plot has a significant impact on the player?s experience. Mass Effect has a well developed plotline, which increases the player?s enjoyment of the game.

The plotline of Mass Effect reflects on modern events, even though the setting takes place in 2180. The foundation of the political system found in the game is much like a parliamentary system which could be found in Europe today.

In the game, the character is put through a series of trials and tribulations, in order to gain an honorary position on the council in government. The character is then put through an extensive and rather mundane knighting type procedure, with overly detailed dialogue which explains the position, known as being a spectre, and its job description.

It is explained to the player that his or her character is the first and last line of defense against evil in the galaxy. From this point the player?s character, travels from planet to planet, stopping evil, and assisting people in need. This plotline leaves the player with a heroic feeling. The player feels like a paragon of virtue.

In Fallout 3, the character is forced to traverse the D.C. wasteland, encountering small pockets of people that survived the nuclear holocaust, or bands of poorly animated mutants whom the character is forced to fight.

In the game, the character goes from one place to the next trying to find his lost father. This quest goes on for most of the game, until the character finds out that his father is part of a government conspiracy to reforest the wastelands of D.C.

The character?s father is killed off in a tidal wave of radioactive water during a desperate attempt to destroy the project that he is working on. He attempts to escape the Enclave, the last remnants of the original United States government. The character is then presented with a difficult choice, to go on a vendetta against the Enclave, or join them and inherit their cruel ways.

Fallout 3 is overrun with difficult ethical and moral decisions which will impact the character throughout the plot.

Through my experience, the most difficult choice that has to be made is in the beginning of the game.

The player is asked whether or not he or she wants to destroy one of the last remaining civilized cities in the area. If the player decides to destroy the city, the character is rewarded with a residency in one of the only surviving hotels in the region. If the character decides to save the city, he is given an overabundance of money to spend.

The plotline of this game has the player constantly choosing between good and evil. The influence of the plotline in a video game goes beyond the story, and directly impacts on the player?s emotions and experiences during the game play.

With the crumbling of our economy, one can still enjoy the fun of gaming, although we may have to choose carefully which game to purchase. Mass Effect clearly has better value for the price, taking into consideration, theme and plot. With today?s game boasting a $60 price tag, people should be cautious with the games which they purchase.

 

irishScott

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Did you fail elementary school English or something? I definitely learned the simple art of the paragraph by 4th grade.
 

Harmattan

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Willacres, I don't think I've seen paragraph that long since I read Ulysses. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing you to Joyce in any sense... my God no.

Yes, the theme and story of Mass Effect pulled me in much more than Fallout 3. The Fallout 3 felt disjointed and far too short. Moreover -- and I know this been stated ad nauseum -- it entirely felt like Oblivion with guns.
 

DangerAardvark

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It's quantity vs quality imo. Fallout 3 has a lot of STUFF. But much of it just isn't that well done.
 

Slappy00

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In Fallout 3, the character is forced to traverse the D.C. wasteland, encountering small pockets of people that survived the nuclear holocaust, or bands of poorly animated mutants whom the character is forced to fight.

In the game, the character goes from one place to the next trying to find his lost father. This quest goes on for most of the game, until the character finds out that his father is part of a government conspiracy to reforest the wastelands of D.C.

The character?s father is killed off in a tidal wave of radioactive water during a desperate attempt to destroy the project that he is working on. He attempts to escape the Enclave, the last remnants of the original United States government. The character is then presented with a difficult choice, to go on a vendetta against the Enclave, or join them and inherit their cruel ways.


Umm edit the spoilers ktx
 

Zenoth

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They're both great games, but Mass Effect is overall of higher quality in many aspects, including sounds, animations, dialog, voice over and graphics, along with story-telling, length of the game, along with a few others, such as some of your actions can have a noticeable impact on a number of things (being renegade or paragon), while in Fallout 3 all of those aspects are inferior (the animations for Christ's sake, they're making my eyes bleed), and the character's actions aren't doing the same amount of "impact" in game-play.

But it's not to say that Fallout 3 is bad. It's just not as good as Mass Effect, and Mass Effect is just the first chapter of a trilogy.
 

Hugh H

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Fallout 3 sidequests >>>> Mass Effect sidequests.

I love both games a lot though.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: irishScott
Did you fail elementary school English or something? I definitely learned the simple art of the paragraph by 4th grade.

He actually writes decently - it's just not legible.
 

PhatoseAlpha

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Considering that both games are composed of more then 50% combat by playtime, a comparison between the two that doesn't even touch on that aspect is a very, very bad comparison. Rewrite please.
 

JF060392

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: irishScott
Did you fail elementary school English or something? I definitely learned the simple art of the paragraph by 4th grade.

He actually writes decently - it's just not legible.

thats what my fourth grade teacher told me.
 

misle

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They are both good games, but I expected more from Mass Effect. It is a good game, but I've enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot more.
 
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I personally love Mass Effect. It's like an interactive movie more so than a game.

The side missions and the travel system can be improved, however. I wanted to see more random encounters. I would also love to see more alien civilization in the outer world.

I can't say much of Fall Out 3 as I have not played yet. But from what I've seen, it doesn't look at polished in the area I'd like to see some polish. Voice acting stood out as clunky, and that's one area I think Mass Effect did fantastic in.

 
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