Mass Shooting at Dark Knight Rises Premier in Aurora Colorado (12 Dead, 59 Injured)

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TheVrolok

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Another witness in the audience named Corbin saw a man sitting in the front right of the audience on a phone before the attack happened. This man went and opened the emergency door and seemed to be trying to direct someone to the door, remaining on the phone the entire time. Minutes later the shooter came in and began the assault.

Scary if true.
 

Nvidiaguy07

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The doctors and scientists are exactly who they will protect. They won't need all those people to gather resources if there is only a small segment of the population left. Honestly, it certainly makes a world of sense in many respects. Most people do not realize the Industrial Revolution has lead to an exponential explosion in the world population and to think the people who run everything behind the scenes are considering this is not too shocking. I promise you, if this is happening, they have carefully discussed and planned for almost every possible event that could happen after this culling of the herd begins.

I've said it forever, not only are there too many lazy fucking pos out there, but there are just too many people period.

And if a random 90percent were wiped out, there would be plenty of doctors nurses, scientists etc to go around. Not to mention all of our intelligence is on file. Can easily be relearnded in a few years.

Honestly looking at our species as a whole we need this. No one wants it, just like the baby born to a homeless sourcin starving woman in Africa doesn't want to die, but it would be better for everyone if that baby - those people - didn't exist.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Not only that, he had body armor on. Concealed carry wouldn't have done SHIT in this case.

You take two to the chest in body armor from a bigger caliber it's going to affect you.

Also it just protects his chest. I doubt he'd not go for cover/flee if return fire was given.
 

WackyDan

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Jan 26, 2004
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Select 3 or so major cities, 3 or so mid major cities, and 3 or so small cities and say "damn it, no guns for 2 years" and see how their crime responds to previous statistics kept in that city as well to the rest of the country over that time period.

Already done. Chicago, Detroit. No further experiment needed.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
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I see no reason why anyone in the United States has a need for an AR-15 automatic assault rifle.

Gun control in this country is pathetic and needs to be addressed.

You need a Federal Permit for one of those and nobody I know of has ever gone on a shooting spree that has a Federal Permit. Way to address the issue.
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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I see no reason why anyone in the United States has a need for an AR-15 automatic assault rifle.

Gun control in this country is pathetic and needs to be addressed.

So you bitch about me about my political, conservative comments on Obama, then you turn right around and post your political, liberal comments on gun control. Well, here's one fuck up calling another fuck up out on his hypocrisy.
 

Infohawk

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Jan 12, 2002
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The theme of all 3 movies were that the world has become a sick place, and needed to burn. (Raz, joker, bane) could he have done this just to push the world a little closer towards anarchy? Here's someone who just killed a bunch of people, and is about to make a mockery of our justice system that is indeed weak. He won't be executed, and if so, it'll be out of almost everyone's mind.

He is basically acting out Batman in a movie theater. If he did choose this movie on purpose (and not just because it's a big premier), he probably is trying to make a point but I'm not sure it will be necessarily about mocking the justice system.
 

Puddle Jumper

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Honestly, as a country we should just put the damn thing to rest. Select 3 or so major cities, 3 or so mid major cities, and 3 or so small cities and say "damn it, no guns for 2 years" and see how their crime responds to previous statistics kept in that city as well to the rest of the country over that time period. Lets just solve the question once and for all as a country so we can stop bitching about it whilst millions of lobbying dollars are spent by opposing organizations going back and forth on the same issue no one actually knows the answer to.

Chicago and DC are already like that, it didn't work.
 

Nvidiaguy07

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He is basically acting out Batman in a movie theater. If he did choose this movie on purpose (and not just because it's a big premier), he probably is trying to make a point but I'm not sure it will be necessarily about mocking the justice system.

He seems smarter than to just act out a movie. I think this movie was intentional, and there was a message there.
 

techs

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Sep 26, 2000
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AURORA, Colo. (AP) — New York City's police commissioner says the gunman in the Colorado movie theater rampage had painted his hair red and called himself the Joker — the villain from the Batman movies.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Friday that he had been briefed about the shootings that killed 12 and wounded nearly 60 others at a showing of the new Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises" at a suburban Denver theater.

Kelly and his spokesman did not say who briefed him.

Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates would not confirm the information about suspected gunman James Holmes, but confirmed he had spoken to Kelly. The two used to work together in New York.
 

Infohawk

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He seems smarter than to just act out a movie. I think this movie was intentional, and there was a message there.

I'm not saying he's ONLY acting out the movie like some child dressed up in a Joker costume... It's more like bringing the movie through the screen into real life, probably as part of a larger picture.
 

MooseNSquirrel

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So you bitch about me about my political, conservative comments on Obama, then you turn right around and post your political, liberal comments on gun control. Well, here's one fuck up calling another fuck up out on his hypocrisy.

I'll never understand how an opinion over a specific public policy automatically marks you as X or Y.

Pretty sure you can be for small government (for example) and against silly archaic (and vague) 18th century gun rights.
 

techs

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It's beginning to look like he was a complete wacko. He told the police he was the Joker.
 

sm625

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Hold the freaking horse there. Liberty and Jefferson have nothing to do with this depraved shooter. Such sick individuals always have, and always will exist. It should be our group function to properly identity them before they figure out the means to harm us.

Maybe I can explain it another way. This is what happens when you repeatedly let injustice after injustice occur, such as americans do moreso than any other nation. 4 million dead iraqis. 10+ million imprisoned for possessing a harmless plant. Millions suffering from diabetes due to a massively successful corporate propaganda campaign. Thousands of carcinogens happily and merrily absorbed by everyone in a blind quest for mindless consumption. Wall Street terrorists hijacking the nation's bank account and stealing trillions. (Only a slight dramatization.) People's lives are destroyed by all of this crap, and then they turn around and swallow the Obomney crap solutions provided by the same powers that are responsible for all this death and destruction. Society has a cancer. Senseless acts of violence are merely a symptom of a diseased social fabric. It is no different than 50 million people watching annoying orange videos and 20 million people worshipping some girl who cant even find america on a globe. It's all extremely aberrant behavior and it all stems from the same cause: an enslaved, powerless, psychologically abused class of people. That is what america is. We stand by and do nothing even when our presidents get shot and bankers fly planes into buildings and blame it on patsies in a get-rich scheme, using their banker-owned intelligence assets to provide a bogus crap story that their banker-owned media propaganda arms can parrot as the truth. That's what all this is about. They own everything. They run everything. The societal strain from this is too much, it is too buried. It would be one thing if it was out in the open, but its not. It is hidden, growing, metastasizing.

You say we can identify the depraved shooter type. But that is wrong. You cant identify them, because they are everyone, and they are no one. Precisely because the aberrant behavior is a symptom of a social disease. You can only surrender more rights, submit to absurd thought crime style screenings, allow more injustices, and make the situation even worse.

A single CCW in that theater had the potential to end the threat before many people were killed. That didn't happen, because people feel like they aren't allowed to defend themselves.

This is possible but not likely. People dont go to the theater to have to be on guard against this sort of event. As soon as people must be on guard, then more commerce stops. And the death spiral accelerates.
 
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Matt1970

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Maybe I can explain it another way. This is what happens when you repeatedly let injustice after injustice occur, such as americans do moreso than any other nation. 4 million dead iraqis. 10+ million imprisoned for possessing a harmless plant. Millions suffering from diabetes due to a massively successful corporate propaganda campaign. Thousands of carcinogens happily and merrily absorbed by everyone in a blind quest for mindless consumption. Wall Street terrorists hijacking the nation's bank account and stealing trillions. (Only a slight dramatization.) People's lives are destroyed by all of this crap, and then they turn around and swallow the Obomney crap solutions provided by the same powers that are responsible for all this death and destruction. Society has a cancer. Senseless acts of violence are merely a symptom of a diseased social fabric. It is no different than 50 million people watching annoying orange videos and 20 million people worshipping some girl who cant even find america on a globe. It's all extremely aberrant behavior and it all stems from the same cause: an enslaved, powerless, psychologically abused class of people. That is what america is. We stand by and do nothing even when our presidents get shot and bankers fly planes into buildings and blame it on patsies in a get-rich scheme. That's what all this is about.

I hope you are being sarcastic because nobody can possible be that stupid.
 

Pr0d1gy

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You take two to the chest in body armor from a bigger caliber it's going to affect you.

Also it just protects his chest. I doubt he'd not go for cover/flee if return fire was given.

He was actually covered from head to toe in ballistics armor, including his throat and groin.
 

sm625

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I hope you are being sarcastic because nobody can possible be that stupid.

Maybe you will understand when one of these @#$%# gets you. Jesus christ if you're going to respond to what I write you can at least show that you have a basic understanding of grammar by using it correctly. Chances are you didnt even read or comprehend what I wrote.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Jessica Ghawi, who was at the Toronto mass shooting & survived by walking out due to a feeling that something bad was about to happen, a 24 year old aspiring sports journalist was killed in this mass shooting sent out a tweet minutes before this happened:

"I can't get this odd feeling out of my chest. This empty, almost sickening feeling won't go away. I noticed this feeling when I was in the Eaton Center in Toronto just seconds before someone opened fire in the food court. An odd feeling which lead me to go outside and unknowingly out of harm's way. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around how a wierd feeling saved me from being in the middle of a deadly shooting."

"I say all the time that every moment we have to live our lives is a blessing. So often I have found myself taking it for granted. Every hug from a family member. Every laugh we share with friends. Even the times of solitude are all blessings. Every second of every day is a gift. After Saturday evening, I know I truly understand how blessed I am for each second I am given."

Prophetic words from someone who had been through this before and was about to die.

Further reports indicate that Ghawi, who went by the name Jessica Redfield on air, tweeted the following after the Toronto attack:

"My receipt shows my purchase was made at 6:20pm. After that purchase I said I felt funny. It wasn't the kind of funny you feel after spending money you know you shouldn't have spent. It was almost a panicky feeling that left my chest feeling like something was missing. A feeling that was overwhelming enough to lead me to head outside in the rain to get fresh air instead of continuing back into the food court to go shopping at SportChek. The gunshots rang out at 6:23. Had I not gone outside, I would've been in the midst of gunfire."

An avid hockey enthusiast, Ghawi setup a charity to help people replace their sporting equipment after the Colorado wildfires and insisted her name not be a part of the charity so as not to be viewed as an attempt to gain favor.
 
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Matt1970

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Maybe you will understand when one of these @#$%# gets you. Jesus christ if you're going to respond to what I write you can at least show that you have a basic understanding of grammar by using it correctly. Chances are you didnt even read or comprehend what I wrote.

Grammer I have but you kinda lose people on "4 million dead iraqis. 10+ million imprisoned for possessing a harmless plant. Millions suffering from diabetes due to a massively successful corporate propaganda campaign"

What else? Alien abductions? Government planting Microchips in all of us? Zombies?

I think this is my favorite "bankers fly planes into buildings and blame it on patsies in a get-rich scheme"
 

Pr0d1gy

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The shooter, it has been confirmed, bought these gun legally at a local Bass Pro Shops over the last several months.

This is now confirmed to be the largest mass shooting in the history of America.
 
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CitizenKain

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I've said it forever, not only are there too many lazy fucking pos out there, but there are just too many people period.

And if a random 90percent were wiped out, there would be plenty of doctors nurses, scientists etc to go around. Not to mention all of our intelligence is on file. Can easily be relearnded in a few years.

Honestly looking at our species as a whole we need this. No one wants it, just like the baby born to a homeless sourcin starving woman in Africa doesn't want to die, but it would be better for everyone if that baby - those people - didn't exist.

Are you going to start with yourself?

Many conspiracy theorists are claiming that the Bilderbergs and the panel of leaders they serve have plotted to use the UN to disarm this country and begin a massive depopulation of the world. They claim that after America is disarmed they will begin using vaccines to infect people with a horrible strain of the swine flu that is meant to kill off up to 90-95% of the world population so that the remaining people can live out a utopian existence. I have to admit, as crazy as it sounded at first, it is not looking so crazy at this point.

What is known for sure is that American military has been training on American soil, in residential neighborhoods and cities all over the country.

I'm sure they are. Thanks for the updates from prisonplanet and infowars.
 
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blankslate

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This was a tragedy perpetrated by a person who was apparently well-prepared to inflict shocking violence upon an unprepared group of people.

We do not yet know for certain if this person is sane or mentally disturbed yet...

People are grieving.

Perhaps we should try to refrain from entering into political debates about firearms and all it's associated issues until the police and FBI put together a more complete picture of how this tragedy took place.
 
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