The NRA made the massacre worse.
The AR-15 would have been banned if the Brady Bill were still in effect.
The AR-15 would have been banned if the Brady Bill were still in effect.
You're an idiot if you actually believe that...The NRA made the massacre worse.
The AR-15 would have been banned if the Brady Bill were still in effect.
You're an idiot if you actually believe that...
An idiot would be one who isn't prepared to shoot some fucking nut like this one...or one who thinks sane rational people shouldn't be able toyou're an idiot if you're still clinging to guns at this point.
Yeah, worked like a charm in Chicago and DC now didn't it...and if you're so confident that a handgun wouldn't have been effective why don't you strap one on and test that theory out?A handgun would not have helped against him. He had body armor, it was a crowded theatre.
Only thing would have been preventing him from obtaining the weapons in the first place. Maybe a more pro-active police state that *gasp* pried your guns from your cold dead fingers.
These events are UNACCEPTABLE. THere needs to be a clampdown on gun owners.
The NRA made the massacre worse.
The AR-15 would have been banned if the Brady Bill were still in effect.
The NRA made the massacre worse.
The AR-15 would have been banned if the Brady Bill were still in effect.
A handgun would not have helped against him. He had body armor, it was a crowded theatre.
Only thing would have been preventing him from obtaining the weapons in the first place. Maybe a more pro-active police state that *gasp* pried your guns from your cold dead fingers.
These events are UNACCEPTABLE. THere needs to be a clampdown on gun owners.
I will be interested to learn more about the shooter and whether he is merely anti-social/destructive crazy (a la the Columbine shooters) or floridly psychotic crazy (like Jared Lee Loughner). It's possible given his age that he had been a smart and high-functioning young man who became schizophrenic or developed another serious mental illness. I find it very interesting that his mother was so certain he was the shooter even though she didn't learn of the event until a reporter told her about it.
I am grateful (if surprised) that he told the police about the booby traps in his apartment. I don't know that they would have been as careful about entering if he had not, and there could have been an even far greater loss of life.
The victims and their families belong in our prayers and thoughts. This is just an awful tragedy in all aspects.
Yeah, worked like a charm in Chicago and DC now didn't it...and if you're so confident that a handgun wouldn't have been effective why don't you strap one on and test that theory out?
That really is not true. The shotgun he was holding could have done just as much damage, as could a semi-auto large caliber pistol (like the pair of .40 caliber glocks he was carrying). The main thing that needs to be addressed is why are people doing this over and over, not whether our Bill of Rights should be flushed down the toilet.
If you want to get into restrictions, how the hell does a college student have a full suit of military grade body armor? If he hadn't had that, and someone did have a concealed pistol, this could have ended much faster and with FAR LESS loss of life.
I'm sure they are. Thanks for the updates from prisonplanet and infowars.
today is not the time for politics. RIP to all the dead and I hope for a speedy recovery for all the victims.
These events are UNACCEPTABLE. THere needs to be a clampdown on gun owners.
A child's response, slamming his first to make something go away. That does not work. They will not cease to exist, criminals will have them. Our border to Mexico is WIDE open.
First you're going to abolish the 2nd amendment, then you're going to forcibly confiscate all guns in the United States, then you're going to seal the border to stop us from importing... uh huh.
Perhaps delusions are unacceptable.
A child's response, slamming his first to make something go away. That does not work. They will not cease to exist, criminals will have them. Our border to Mexico is WIDE open.
First you're going to abolish the 2nd amendment, then you're going to forcibly confiscate all guns in the United States, then you're going to seal the border to stop us from importing... uh huh.
Perhaps delusions are unacceptable.
I see no reason why anyone in the United States has a need for an AR-15 automatic assault rifle.
Gun control in this country is pathetic and needs to be addressed.
Where do criminals get the guns? Do they have their criminal gun factories making guns? No. They get their guns from legitimate gun sellers, often using straw buyers. The only real way to stop it is to decrease the overall supply of guns. That makes everything more expensive and difficult overall for criminals.
where do you buy this mythical automatic AR-15?
oh wait, doesn't exist. AR's are semi, its doubtfull he had a preban worth upwards of 10 g's
but the media has shown again how ignorant they are on many fronts
That being said, given the way this guy was armored up it does seem likely that he couldn't have been stopped by a few CCW holders in the audience.
Most of these mass shootings aren't every day criminals.
Most have mental or other psychological problems. People with either should not be able to walk in to a gun show or gun store and be able to legally buy a gun(how most mass shooters get their guns). The gun show exception needs to be done away with. Everyone legally buying a gun should pass both a background and mental health check.
Don't the folks wearing bullet proof vests get knocked to the floor when struck? I mean... what kind of armor could he have possibly had? I've heard no description... this shit is available to the public? He just simply purchased it?
I'm still trying to wrestle with this notion that he'd be unstoppable, but cops still bust down doors without knocking due to their fear of guns. That's the whole reason SWAT goes in to butcher folks in their homes, right? Cause it's too dangerous to announce yourself... too dangerous to ask them to come out.
Don't the folks wearing bullet proof vests get knocked to the floor when struck? I mean... what kind of armor could he have possibly had? I've heard no description... this shit is available to the public? He just simply purchased it?
In the movies they get knocked down. In real life . . . not so much. See, e.g., http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVeb_zZdliw
Body armor is illegal in many places but it is available for sale on the internet and many vendors just disclaim liability and say it's the buyer's responsibility.