Mass shootings in Las Vegas

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Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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I'm curious if they would lose even more business if they lost a suit and the media started reporting they were responsible for the shooting?

It’s possible. Obviously they and their lawyers did a cost benefit analysis and decided heading off thr lawsuits was in their best interests. They maybe right. I don’t think so but it might be.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
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It’s possible. Obviously they and their lawyers did a cost benefit analysis and decided heading off thr lawsuits was in their best interests. They maybe right. I don’t think so but it might be.

Shrug, I agree with you but as you said they had an army of high priced lawyers and PR experts analyzing the move, maybe they know more than us and maybe they just fucked up big. If they somehow still lose the lawsuit they will be absurdly fucked, twice.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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It’s possible. Obviously they and their lawyers did a cost benefit analysis and decided heading off thr lawsuits was in their best interests. They maybe right. I don’t think so but it might be.

Weird technique, for sure. I'm going to remember BS like this the next time it comes to pick a hotel room in Vegas.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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MGM Resorts sues more than 1,000 Las Vegas shooting victims to avoid liability in massacre:

https://www.newsweek.com/mgm-sues-o...ting-victims-avoid-liability-massacre-1027695

Holy crap that's brutal. The 'murikan way though. sue sue sue!

They really need to get rid of the whole "you can sue for anything" clause of lawsuits. it's the most ridiculous thing ever. The should actually be a proper reason to sue. Sueing to avoid being sued should not be a proper reason. These people nearly lost their life and now they're about to lose their shirts. 'Murika.
 

Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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If anything, if they really wanted good PR, they should offer all of those 1,000+ victims a free weekend hotel trip with comped food or something. Although if I was shot at from a hotel, I'd probably never want to go near that place again.

They have other hotels they could offer the free weekend at.

Holy crap that's brutal. The 'murikan way though. sue sue sue!

I can understand it. People sue over stupid\frivolous things all the time. Going to court is expensive so it can often be cheaper and\or easier to just settle than to actually fight the case. We need to change our system of legal extortion
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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I can understand it. People sue over stupid\frivolous things all the time. Going to court is expensive so it can often be cheaper and\or easier to just settle than to actually fight the case. We need to change our system of legal extortion


There should be a vetting process to see if a lawsuit is valid or not, before the victim even has to be involved. The issue is even settling is expensive, it's usually for 10's or even 100's of thousands which will be enough to ruin most people's lives. Have to sell the house etc.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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So do you fall victim of this suit even if you had no intention to sue? Talk about being at the wrong place at the wrong time. You get shot at by some crazy guy and if that's not enough you later get extorted of all your money and assets (basically what a lawsuit is) by the owner of the place you got shot that just because you happened to be there. What a ridiculous thing.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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So do you fall victim of this suit even if you had no intention to sue? Talk about being at the wrong place at the wrong time. You get shot at by some crazy guy and if that's not enough you later get extorted of all your money and assets (basically what a lawsuit is) by the owner of the place you got shot that just because you happened to be there. What a ridiculous thing.

MGM is only counter suing those who have already filed suit against them....
 
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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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MGM is only counter suing those who have already filed suit against them....

Oh ok that's not AS bad, still ridiculous but not as bad as they make it sound. It sounded like they were just blanket suing everyone that was a victim as a precaution to not get sued.

Really even as a victim of any kind of incident like this there's no point in suing the place you were at when it happened, not really much they could have done to prevent it, shit like that happens unfortunately.
 

spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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Oh ok that's not AS bad, still ridiculous but not as bad as they make it sound. It sounded like they were just blanket suing everyone that was a victim as a precaution to not get sued.

Really even as a victim of any kind of incident like this there's no point in suing the place you were at when it happened, not really much they could have done to prevent it, shit like that happens unfortunately.

That was my point earlier...the media is making it seem that MGM is suing the victims because they are an evil company (they probably aren't any more or less evil than any of the other casinos on the strip)...But that is what sells headlines and gets clicks on their websites...
 
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spacejamz

Lifer
Mar 31, 2003
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That was my point earlier...the media is making it seem that MGM is suing the victims because they are an evil company (they probably aren't any more or less evil than any of the other casinos on the strip)...But that is what sells headlines and gets clicks on their websites...

The only winners here are the lawyers on both sides....everyone else loses in this situation....
 
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Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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If I read it correctly, they're not only suing people who have sued them, but anyone who was there and might sue them.

But, they're not suing to take a cent from the people, they're suing to get a declaration that they're not liable and can't be sued.
 

Paladin3

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Mar 5, 2004
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People who where injured or lost loved ones will be looking to be made as whole as possible by suing the hotel because they are the only entity with deep pockets. How many tens or hundreds of millions does the hotel owe each one of those victims for the actions of a mad man? I saw the video of the shooter taking bags up to his room. There was not even a hint that there were guns and ammunition inside.

This was a terrible tragedy, but I'm not sure anyone should be held financially accountable for not preventing it. That said, MORALLY, MGM should use some of their considerable financial resources to help the victims.

Also, if it were my company, I would create a memorial at the location while still maintaining it as a concert/event location. And I would invite all the surviving victims and their families to return for a concert on the next anniversary of the shooting. Massively increase security, celebrate music, life and love, and show the world that we will not allow violence to cow us. I would attend.
 
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jtvang125

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People who where injured or lost loved ones will be looking to be made as whole as possible by suing the hotel because they are the only entity with deep pockets. How many tens or hundreds of millions does the hotel owe each one of those victims for the actions of a mad man? I saw the video of the shooter taking bags up to his room. There was not even a hint that there were guns and ammunition inside.

This was a terrible tragedy, but I'm not sure anyone should be held financially accountable for not preventing it. That said, MORALLY, MGM should use some of their considerable financial resources to help the victims.

Also, if it were my company, I would create a memorial at the location while still maintaining it as a concert/event location. And I would invite all the surviving victims and their families to return for a concert on the next anniversary of the shooting. Massively increase security, celebrate music, life and love, and show the world that we will not allow violence to cow us. I would attend.

Yep, short of requiring metal detectors and x-rays when entering the casino or security cameras inside the rooms I just can't see how they could've known. Should they implement these security policies everyone would be complaining too.

It might just be me but since the shooting I have not heard MGM doing anything to try and get a little good PR and not seem like the bad guy. To show support and sympathy for the victims. Instead out of the blue we get these stories about the casino suing the victims (not technically true but that's what the public will remember).
 
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