I agree. Few invested in this debate are actually concerned with finding a reasonable, feasible solution.
I agree. Few invested in this debate are actually concerned with finding a reasonable, feasible solution.The bickering squabbling and ignorance has reached the tipping point, time to put this thread to rest.
Easy. In suitcases. The guy used 10. Once checked in you come and go as you please. No metal detectors at the doors or to the elevators. Just one or two staff at the elevators to check your keycard to the room to prevent random people wander the floor halls. Bring up one or two at a time and no one will think twice.
I am sorry to hear that. My daughter knew a girl that was killed at the shooting at her college. Makes all of this real when you know someone involved. Also makes these people arguing over stupid stuff sound like real idiots. It changes things when it is an actual person and not just numbers.the "small world" effect can be terrifying.
We had neighbors, good friends who were likely to be at the concert. They stayed home to watch the Seahawks game, but his sister was there. She was uninjured.
Another lady my wife worked with years ago was killed
She died in her husband's arms.
Pretty close estimate!Sheriff said it was 500 yards
Do they really have staff at the elevators now? I haven't been to Vegas in a while but last time I was there it wasn't anything like that. Only time I ever encounter something like that are the hotels in the French Quarter during Mardi Gras and it's usually at the door not the elevators.
Regardless, he could have easily had the bellhop bring 4 or 5 up and then brought the rest up at his leisure over the next few days. No one would have given him a 2nd glance, just another guy bringing luggage into a hotel.
The way I see it doors at hotels in Las Vegas now will have security and metal detector. Booooo
The way I see it doors at hotels in Las Vegas now will have security and metal detector. Booooo
Vegas is really nice and hope they won't change after this which I doubt.
What about New Year's Eve??? If this guy did this New Year's Eve there will be more death. New Year's Eve is so packed on the strip a stampede will kill a lot of people. I was there for one New Year's Eve celebration and it was hard to move around.. well you can't move.
Or simply use a golf bag and smuggle quite a bit each time. Vegas has many golf courses, and it would not be unusual whatsoever to see a tourist going to and from his room with a bag full of clubs. I used to golf and golf bags have many large zippered compartments to easily conceal stuff.Break them down into parts, put them in suitcases and have the bellboy deliver them up. The sheriff even said he had some crazy number of suitcases, like 15 or something, in his room that he took up over the course of his stay. Huge ass hotel/casino, tons of people, tons of different staff...
You can hit a target at 1000 yards with a scoped TC. It has to be stabilized on a surface to do that, but 300 yards is doable hand held, I have done it handgun hunting.Sheriff said it was 500 yards but even 300 yards and 32 stories up with a handgun??? Are you seriously implying that someone should try to make that shot at a hotel full of people while under automatic gunfire and thousands of people running and screaming around them? And who the hell in the crowd, other than maybe a cop, would have been carrying a long gun?
Nope, It's my right. Sorry if you don't like it. On second thought, I am really not sorry at all.Thoughts like this is what gives the rest of us gun owners a bad name. Quit being part of the problem and shut up with this crap.
We need decent health care for all. Maybe we will get it. I use a health account, but not many people I know do that although the numbers are increasing. CYA.Lol, it's possible it's both. But hey, let's destroy healthcare for millions, and continue with the status quo of shame, ostracizing, and ignoring mental health issues.
America counts these event under the acceptable losses cetagory.
Exactly, this is why the news looking for ratings is helping to destroy the society they are supposed to be reporting on. Some stories should not see the light of day.Isn't there less bullet drop from an elevated position? Making it easier to aim +500 yards with a 308 Or 223?
I'm just afraid now of copy cat psychos wanting to become famous...
the "small world" effect can be terrifying.
We had neighbors, good friends who were likely to be at the concert. They stayed home to watch the Seahawks game, but his sister was there. She was uninjured.
Another lady my wife worked with years ago was killed
She died in her husband's arms.
Since I know little about guns and the accuracy of different models, I'll take your word that it's not an "impossible" task. That being said, the majority would not have a scoped handgun and would have been firing blindly at a building hoping for a lucky hit. I think you'd have to admit that this would result in many injuries to innocent's staying at the hotel vs actually taking out the shooter.You can hit a target at 1000 yards with a scoped TC. It has to be stabilized on a surface to do that, but 300 yards is doable hand held, I have done it handgun hunting.
Just for all the nay sayers that think it's impossible, I doubt they are familiar with the equipment and just see guys in movies with .38s and think that's what a handgun is.
Lol, it's possible it's both. But hey, let's destroy healthcare for millions, and continue with the status quo of shame, ostracizing, and ignoring mental health issues.
America counts these event under the acceptable losses cetagory.
Since I know little about guns and the accuracy of different models, I'll take your word that it's not an "impossible" task. That being said, the majority would not have a scoped handgun and would have been firing blindly at a building hoping for a lucky hit. I think you'd have to admit that this would result in many injuries to innocent's staying at the hotel vs actually taking out the shooter.
No metal detectors at the doors or to the elevators.
I think the big issue with these type of attacks is how everyone goes into that "We need to do something!" mode, including the government. At the end of the day, it leads to less freedom and liberties and more government control.
Just look at how screwed up everything is since 9/11, with all the mass surveillance and customs searches and crap that goes on now, and that stuff is only getting worse. Now they are demanding your phone passwords and search all your devices, at what point are they also going to ask for your social media, email and other passwords too?
We need decent health care for all. Maybe we will get it. I use a health account, but not many people I know do that although the numbers are increasing. CYA.