How many scoped handguns have them zeroed for an elevated position 500+ yards away?
No, not really, they would have to know exactly what room he was shooting from and even then it takes time to get a sniper into position+set up. From reports, the police entered the hotel and were told by staff that a smoke detector had gone off in the room due to the amount of spent rounds. They then set up an explosive charge and blew the door open but he had already shot himself.In not sure if this is possible or movie but could the police position one sniper from a place and just shoot at the broken window just to slow the shooter down while the other police go up to his floor and kill him.
In not sure if this is possible or movie but could the police position one sniper from a place and just shoot at the broken window just to slow the shooter down while the other police go up to his floor and kill him.
The window was blown out by the shooter, It was the only open window on the side of the building, curtains billowing out, it doesn't take a detective to see it.Since I know little about guns and the accuracy of different models, I'll take your word that it's not an "impossible" task. That being said, the majority would not have a scoped handgun and would have been firing blindly at a building hoping for a lucky hit. I think you'd have to admit that this would result in many injuries to innocent's staying at the hotel vs actually taking out the shooter.
We do need to do something. We need to be able to defend ourselves. We need to seek training from professionals on how to handle unexpected situations and above all we need to be aware and vigilant at all times.I think the big issue with these type of attacks is how everyone goes into that "We need to do something!" mode, including the government. At the end of the day, it leads to less freedom and liberties and more government control.
Just look at how screwed up everything is since 9/11, with all the mass surveillance and customs searches and crap that goes on now, and that stuff is only getting worse. Now they are demanding your phone passwords and search all your devices, at what point are they also going to ask for your social media, email and other passwords too?
Yep. What it boils down to is people thinking with emotion rather than logic and common sense. I just seen a guy on the news being interviewed talking about preventing people from getting guns like this, etc. I was yelling at the TV saying, "you idiot! They already have laws on the books that prevent you to modify a gun to be an automatic!
The window was blown out by the shooter, It was the only open window on the side of the building, curtains billowing out, it doesn't take a detective to see it.
I have a funny felling that people who do have mental health issues either A) don't seek help or B) are never diagnosed. To make matters worse a lot of these people act like 5 year olds to try and get them to take their medication.
Like I said a few pages prior, I'd be curious to see what the toxicology report says. I'm betting he wasn't on medication at all. If he was, there sure shit should be a psychologist being interviewed by now.
So whether our current health care system can offer help to those that do have a mental health issue or not is irrelevant. And I can tell you my mom and I both know people who do have mental health issues. They never had trouble at all getting help. Perhaps the only barrier was the cost of medication. But with Medicaid your meds won't cost you an arm and a leg. Which brings me to a point about the greedy pharmaceuticals. That's something I think needs to be addressed in this country.
Yep. What it boils down to is people thinking with emotion rather than logic and common sense. I just seen a guy on the news being interviewed talking about preventing people from getting guns like this, etc. I was yelling at the TV saying, "you idiot! They already have laws on the books that prevent you to modify a gun to be an automatic! Plus, no law will EVER stop a would be criminal from doing what he wants. " Just look at Chicago. Good grief. Despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the books, the place is a flipping war zone!
As to the security we all have to face in a now post 9/11 world, I'm afraid it's a sad fact of life. Some of it is nonsensical, but others are not. I mean, we can't run around like a bunch of Eloi where the Morlocks run our lives. I think we need to employ some experts on terrorism from Israel. I've talked about airport security before. That's one place that needs to change. Homeland Security really needs to partner with Israeli terrorism experts. No country in the world knows as much about terrorism than Israel.
As someone who suffers from mental illness I am starting to not appreciate the stigma automatically associated with the term 'mental illness' or 'mental health issues'. I am starting to use the term mood disorder to describe myself (bipolar). I am not at risk of going out and shooting a large group of people.
You can hit a target at 1000 yards with a scoped TC. It has to be stabilized on a surface to do that, but 300 yards is doable hand held, I have done it handgun hunting.
Just for all the nay sayers that think it's impossible, I doubt they are familiar with the equipment and just see guys in movies with .38s and think that's what a handgun is.
No, not really, they would have to know exactly what room he was shooting from and even then it takes time to get a sniper into position+set up. From reports, the police entered the hotel and were told by staff that a smoke detector had gone off in the room due to the amount of spent rounds. They then set up an explosive charge and blew the door open but he had already shot himself.
let's play "spot the broken windows"
The window was blown out by the shooter, It was the only open window on the side of the building, curtains billowing out, it doesn't take a detective to see it.
I haven't read the whole thread, just the 1st page and the last few posts so someone may have already mentioned this..is it possible that if in a crowd of 20k+ people, there were people with concealed carries who pulled out their weapons to try to take out the shooter, amidst the mass confusion and dark, they might have started shooting at each other. Just something that occurred to me, that's all.
No, not really, they would have to know exactly what room he was shooting from and even then it takes time to get a sniper into position+set up. From reports, the police entered the hotel and were told by staff that a smoke detector had gone off in the room due to the amount of spent rounds. They then set up an explosive charge and blew the door open but he had already shot himself.
let's play "spot the broken windows"
let's play "spot the broken windows"
Bump stocks are legal though. That is what this killer used.
As someone who suffers from mental illness I am starting to not appreciate the stigma automatically associated with the term 'mental illness' or 'mental health issues'. I am starting to use the term mood disorder to describe myself (bipolar). I am not at risk of going out and shooting a large group of people.
do you feel Kim Jong Un or however you spell his name should have access to Nuclear Weapons?
So the gf returned back from PH today and is with the FBI. Would be very interesting to hear what she has to say.
If she's never home then it's possible she never knew about the guns. She was probably with him just for the $ and didn't care much for what he did.