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Thebobo

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Some asshole supporter from the gun manufacturers marketing arm made this photoshop.
It's of one of the kids from the Parkland school slaughter.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/the...ng-constitution-people-sharing-190303807.html

https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/977700330954809345/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://s.yimg.com/os/yc/html/embed-iframe-min.2d7621e2.html

These pricks have no shame.

Of course that's all over SM and despite the truth the knuckle draggers will still think it was real.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Some asshole supporter from the gun manufacturers marketing arm made this photoshop.
It's of one of the kids from the Parkland school slaughter.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/the...ng-constitution-people-sharing-190303807.html

https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/977700330954809345/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://s.yimg.com/os/yc/html/embed-iframe-min.2d7621e2.html

These pricks have no shame.

Imagine that right wing gun nutters being sucked in by lame propaganda.
 

ch33zw1z

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Look at the odds, shall we? Those evil "assault" black guns thingies, sooooooooo dangerous, they are everywhereeeeeeeeee, must save the childreennnnnnnnnnnnn. The hell with heart attack, cancer, lung sickness, poisoning, motor vehicle accidents...them guns muuuuuussstttt gooooooooo -

/s


Guess that explains red states not giving a shit. Look at all the things they will die from first.
 

pmv

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Look at the odds, shall we? Those evil "assault" black guns thingies, sooooooooo dangerous, they are everywhereeeeeeeeee, must save the childreennnnnnnnnnnnn. The hell with heart attack, cancer, lung sickness, poisoning, motor vehicle accidents...them guns muuuuuussstttt gooooooooo -

/s




What a bizarre form of 'logic' you have! So no attempt should be made to reduce any of those forms of death other than heart disease? All research and public health campaigns over stroke or diabetes need to be stopped immediately?

Also - I worry you may be having a stroke yourself, given how your post suggests you are having increasing trouble with typing simple words, in addition to logical reasoning.
 

UNCjigga

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Imagine that right wing gun nutters being sucked in by lame propaganda.

Evil fascists gotta fash, man. Fashing up the Nation. And then Tajjy comes in here complaining about one side lying about numbers at a rally. LOL.
 

momeNt

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I don't keep up with the news that much, but if this movement is potent wouldn't the politicians vying for the mid-term elections be tripping over themselves with how they are in support of gun control. It is free votes.
 

zinfamous

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THE REASONS WE NEED MACHINE GUNS.
SELF PROTECTION FOR OUR FAMILIES AND PROPERTY.
when THE COPS ARE TOLD TO STAND DOWN AND WE FEND FOR OURSELVES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aV6rso2l0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43WZd611WA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRc_FlmW2Jc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aV6rso2l0I

Dear god, man, aren't you happier humping your favored fan products in the GPU forums? Why is it all or nothing with nuts like you? Bring me my efficient murder toys and my singly favored graphics toys!
 

zinfamous

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I am more into "let deal with the huge problems first before worrying about the little ones...maybe down the road".

A few posters said it already in this thread, why not doing something (such as studying the causes, total background check on all sales, no gun for unstable weirdos, and so on) before the knee jerk reaction.



I was not being serious, just wanted to dramatized a bit, I edit and put the /s tag at the end.

Uh huh, right. So when restrictions are removed from the CDC to do these exact things (decades of them being banned from actual research by gunnut sociopaths screaming about their freedoms, only allowing NRA lobbyists to be the approved "researchers"), gunnutters scream and moan and piss their pants that this research is unconstitutional.

It's one thing to say you want this, then turn around and march in lockstep with the sociopathic cowards that scream the NRA talking points that such legitimate research is a threat to their freedom.
 
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IJTSSG

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The continuing resolution that was just passed specifically allows the CDC to conduct research into gun violence.
 

momeNt

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The continuing resolution that was just passed specifically allows the CDC to conduct research into gun violence.

Hasn't that always been the case - when I look up the Dickey Amendment, it simply says

"none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment_(1996)

It is quite possible that at the all-time peak of gun violence in the 1990s, the research findings were at its most damning. Ever since Obama in 2012, they have been given the go ahead to conduct research. They probably have not been able to conduct anything nearly as pro-gun control as Kellerman so why even bother. It is better to have the narrative that the NRA is blocking research than to actually publish research that doesn't back up the wanted outcome.
 
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trenchfoot

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Of course that's all over SM and despite the truth the knuckle draggers will still think it was real.

After viewing a few facebook pages of acquaintances who I know are avid Trump followers I can say with clarity that you are correct. The more Trump is exposed for the incompetent dangerously self-absorbed bully that he is, the more tightly his supporters cling to him, disregarding every shred of factual evidence that proves they were so easily fooled by the fanciful lies he cajoles them with. The "fake news" excuse they cough up every time Trump reveals his ineptitude or guilt gets played to such an excess that it's small wonder his supporters are looked at as being just as inept and distant as he is, or worse.

At this point in time if there are folks who still believe that Trump is a true patriot and is doing one hell of a job in keeping our sworn enemies at bay and living up to all of those big promises he made during and after his presidential campaign that featured eye popping jaw dropping whopping blatant lies and false promises that was repeated by him time and again and again, they can truly be considered deranged beyond saving from themselves.

They, like Trump, and especially so the evangelicals who continue to support him have lost any and all credibility in their word, purported faith and deed.
 

MrSquished

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After viewing a few facebook pages of acquaintances who I know are avid Trump followers I can say with clarity that you are correct. The more Trump is exposed for the incompetent dangerously self-absorbed bully that he is, the more tightly his supporters cling to him, disregarding every shred of factual evidence that proves they were so easily fooled by the fanciful lies he cajoles them with. The "fake news" excuse they cough up every time Trump reveals his ineptitude or guilt gets played to such an excess that it's small wonder his supporters are looked at as being just as inept and distant as he is, or worse.

At this point in time if there are folks who still believe that Trump is a true patriot and is doing one hell of a job in keeping our sworn enemies at bay and living up to all of those big promises he made during and after his presidential campaign that featured eye popping jaw dropping whopping blatant lies and false promises that was repeated by him time and again and again, they can truly be considered deranged beyond saving from themselves.

They, like Trump, and especially so the evangelicals who continue to support him have lost any and all credibility in their word, purported faith and deed.

Yup. I just purged a few righties from my FB feed because they are unconscionable, ignorant and they are also like fervent religious supporters. Trump is a deity to them. It's obscene to witness it.

I read enough political analysis that I get both sides of the story, I don't need to see the raw insanity of the Trumpists on FB anymore. They are, in fact, the non-savable deplorables - clinging to their guns and religion.

Obama and Clinton were dead on when they analyzed them as such.
 

Thump553

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After viewing a few facebook pages of acquaintances who I know are avid Trump followers I can say with clarity that you are correct. The more Trump is exposed for the incompetent dangerously self-absorbed bully that he is, the more tightly his supporters cling to him, disregarding every shred of factual evidence that proves they were so easily fooled by the fanciful lies he cajoles them with. The "fake news" excuse they cough up every time Trump reveals his ineptitude or guilt gets played to such an excess that it's small wonder his supporters are looked at as being just as inept and distant as he is, or worse.

At this point in time if there are folks who still believe that Trump is a true patriot and is doing one hell of a job in keeping our sworn enemies at bay and living up to all of those big promises he made during and after his presidential campaign that featured eye popping jaw dropping whopping blatant lies and false promises that was repeated by him time and again and again, they can truly be considered deranged beyond saving from themselves.

They, like Trump, and especially so the evangelicals who continue to support him have lost any and all credibility in their word, purported faith and deed.

Around 1970 or so I had a summer lab job working with a German woman who was in her teens during WWII. We had lots of spare time and I asked her about how the average German viewed Hitler then. Pretty much word for word what you say about Trump. She further pointed out that after WWII it was next to impossible to find anyone who admitted to ever supporting Hitler. If the evidence was irrefutable (like they had a government job) the standard response was they didn't really support Hitler, they just had to act like they did.

Personally I just don't understand this intellectual rigidity. I've changed my opinion on any number of political things during my life. I guess experience and reflection are foreign concepts to a lot of people.
 
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Red Storm

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I was there in DC with the family. I don't know how many people were there (I've heard different numbers), but it was A LOT. Parked over 11 blocks away from the capitol building, and we saw protesters on every one of those blocks walking to the main area. I was glad to see so many people there, especially young people. They are our future, and combined with the sensible people who are already of voting age, I have hope that change is inevitable.
 

Noah Abrams

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The students and folks taking part in these protests do genuinely believe they are doing it for some meaningful form of gun control. However, the organizers, the experienced old hands, the organizations and the people who hold the purse strings know that there is no chance of that happening because of the constitution. So this is actually a get out the vote campaign.

I don't think the presence of vile creature in WH is motivation enough - maybe something like that can just turn off people from politics altogether. So use of an issue to get the vote out, don't think anything wrong with that. Even if there is no chance of that issue getting addressed.
 

Commodus

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Personally I just don't understand this intellectual rigidity. I've changed my opinion on any number of political things during my life. I guess experience and reflection are foreign concepts to a lot of people.

It's a combination of things.

To start... as trite as it is to say, the Dunning-Kruger effect plays a large part: people with low intelligence think they know everything, while intelligent people are aware of what they don't know and express doubt or uncertainty. An unquestioning Trump supporter not only isn't bright enough to see through his lies, but will trust their own misguided instinct over the hard facts proving them wrong.

On top of that, even those that are intelligent enough to avoid that effect sometimes treat politics as a game; people like boomerang, brandonbull and taj are more interested in their side "winning" than doing what's good for the country. Yeah, Trump is a habitual liar, corrupt, incompetent and a sexual predator, but he's attached to the Republicans and dammit, that's all that matters. Some Democrat supporters do it too, of course, but I haven't seen that kind of mindless loyalty on the left nearly as often as I've seen it with Republican backers in the Trump era.
 

jpeyton

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I'm not ashamed to admit that I was staunchly pro gun control around the Columbine era. Ten years later I enjoyed firearms and target shooting, and still do to this day.

I'm a Democrat, however, and I support common sense gun control. I don't think 18 year olds should be allowed to purchase AR-15s. I think background checks should be universal. Should we have an assault weapons ban? Probably not.

And I think the NRA should be gravely worried that they couldn't find enough students to support their cause to fill a school bus, while 1.2 million students marched for gun control on Saturday. The NRA is getting outmaneuvered badly for the first time in a long time, but the damage could be lasting if they can't find a new generation of people to take up their cause.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I'm not ashamed to admit that I was staunchly pro gun control around the Columbine era. Ten years later I enjoyed firearms and target shooting, and still do to this day.

I'm a Democrat, however, and I support common sense gun control. I don't think 18 year olds should be allowed to purchase AR-15s. I think background checks should be universal. Should we have an assault weapons ban? Probably not.

I was told that your rights to do as you do are inferior to my right to feel safe. True freedom is freedom from fear and that supersedes the rights of others.

BTW I think those are completely reasonable ideas you have. Making a semi-auto pistol automatically a banned "assault weapon" not so much.

I have yet to identify one authority which can be an honest broker in this situation. Not a Hillary, not a Trump. Who? You have me on that one.
 

Lanyap

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The students and folks taking part in these protests do genuinely believe they are doing it for some meaningful form of gun control. However, the organizers, the experienced old hands, the organizations and the people who hold the purse strings know that there is no chance of that happening because of the constitution. So this is actually a get out the vote campaign.

I don't think the presence of vile creature in WH is motivation enough - maybe something like that can just turn off people from politics altogether. So use of an issue to get the vote out, don't think anything wrong with that. Even if there is no chance of that issue getting addressed.

Good point. I think the protest was largely a political move by the left. Where was the massive protest sponsored by the left when mass school shootings happened during the 8 year Obama administration?
 

ivwshane

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Good point. I think the protest was largely a political move by the left. Where was the massive protest sponsored by the left when mass school shootings happened during the 8 year Obama administration?

So I guess that's your way of invalidating the movement.
 

Skel

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Fox News poll from a couple of pages back is a good start:
100% background checks for all gun sales, no exemptions
21 to buy a gun
Ban stuff that has no purpose in hunting or home defense. Bump stocks & armor piercing rounds are good examples

How much more clear does it have to be?

While I'm not against any of those options, the phrase "good start" implies to me that even more than what you posted is wanted. Why not cut to the chase and start with what's wanted? Otherwise it sounds like people are trying to ban all guns and are going the long route with a death of a thousand paper cuts.

I blame the NRA gun industry lobby,

It's the members of the NRA that you really should be blaming. Those are the ones that tip the balance of votes when the NRA tells them that something could take away their guns.

Problem is republicans have blocked the study of anything related to guns, there’s no accurate info on purpose.

I thought they only blocked federal funding. The only group I know of that was directly banned from studying guns, and that is the CDC. Which makes sense as the CDC appears to have an agenda.. and most importantly guns aren't a disease. They are objects.
 
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