Do you think the fact that they believed the admin shared their ideals and concerns might have something to do with that? That they felt they already had a voice?
Do you think the fact that they believed the admin shared their ideals and concerns might have something to do with that? That they felt they already had a voice?Good point. I think the protest was largely a political move by the left. Where was the massive protest sponsored by the left when mass school shootings happened during the 8 year Obama administration?
I thought they only blocked federal funding. The only group I know of that was directly banned from studying guns, and that is the CDC. Which makes sense as the CDC appears to have an agenda.. and most importantly guns aren't a disease. They are objects.
The author of the opinion piece Chris Cox is the NRAs top lobbyist. Your link is an opinion piece, it's not fact based news.
From the article you linked;
Chris Cox is the executive director of the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action.
Seems the NRA has an agenda. To discredit the CDC.
What's the word I'm looking for here? Pathetic? Coward? Pussy? It doesn't matter, pick one, they all apply.
While I'm not against any of those options, the phrase "good start" implies to me that even more than what you posted is wanted. Why not cut to the chase and start with what's wanted? Otherwise it sounds like people are trying to ban all guns and are going the long route with a death of a thousand paper cuts.
It's the members of the NRA that you really should be blaming. Those are the ones that tip the balance of votes when the NRA tells them that something could take away their guns.
I thought they only blocked federal funding. The only group I know of that was directly banned from studying guns, and that is the CDC. Which makes sense as the CDC appears to have an agenda.. and most importantly guns aren't a disease. They are objects.
The students and folks taking part in these protests do genuinely believe they are doing it for some meaningful form of gun control. However, the organizers, the experienced old hands, the organizations and the people who hold the purse strings know that there is no chance of that happening because of the constitution. So this is actually a get out the vote campaign.
I don't know why you conclude the constitution prevents any meaningful gun control. In the Heller case Scalia himself said this decision does not prevent Congress from regulating certain types of guns.
Its not the Constitution preventing it but politicians not wanting to buck the NRA
I think that absolutely has something to do with his actions. We give out these drugs willy nilly but they’re powerful and turned kids into a bunch of drug riddled nutcases. Giving kids speed because someone says they have ADHD is nuts.
To your other point that they will always find some way to circumvent, I mean yeah maybe. But I think there’s those that wouldn’t go that extra mile either or that they wake up the next morning (still gun free) with a cooler head.
I don’t know what the answer is and with the mass school shootings I don’t think there is an answer, but knee jerk nor feel good reactions (rocks in the classrooms) are dumb, stoke fear, have little to no effect, and infringe on rights unnecessarily. So any gun control should be well thought out and effective. Only way to know if it is would be to study it.
FIGHT as an absolute last resort.
- Commit to your actions and act as aggressively as possible against the shooter.
- Recruit others to ambush the shooter with makeshift weapons like chairs, fire extinguishers, scissors, books, etc.
- Be prepared to cause severe or lethal injury to the shooter.
- Throw items and improvise weapons to distract and disarm the shooter.
So I guess that's your way of invalidating the movement.
Not sure but I would have been just as welcoming to it then as I am now. I'm just happy there's a discussion finally happening. But yea, "Thanks Obama!"Where was the massive protest sponsored by the left when mass school shootings happened during the 8 year Obama administration?
Why would a massive protest be needed when the President openly and actively supported the potential protester's demands?Where was the massive protest sponsored by the left when mass school shootings happened during the 8 year Obama administration?
I don't know why you conclude the constitution prevents any meaningful gun control. In the Heller case Scalia himself said this decision does not prevent Congress from regulating certain types of guns.
Its not the Constitution preventing it but politicians not wanting to buck the NRA
Hasn't that always been the case - when I look up the Dickey Amendment, it simply says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment_(1996)
It is quite possible that at the all-time peak of gun violence in the 1990s, the research findings were at its most damning. Ever since Obama in 2012, they have been given the go ahead to conduct research. They probably have not been able to conduct anything nearly as pro-gun control as Kellerman so why even bother. It is better to have the narrative that the NRA is blocking research than to actually publish research that doesn't back up the wanted outcome.
The Dickey amendment, an annual appropriations provision, states that "None of the funds made available in this title may be used, in whole or in part, to advocate or promote gun control.”
No shame? Tell us about it.Some asshole supporter from the gun manufacturers marketing arm made this photoshop.
It's of one of the kids from the Parkland school slaughter.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/the...ng-constitution-people-sharing-190303807.html
https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/977700330954809345/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://s.yimg.com/os/yc/html/embed-iframe-min.2d7621e2.html
These pricks have no shame.
This wasn't even a "massive" protest, it was a burp of a complaint.Where was the massive protest sponsored by the left when mass school shootings happened during the 8 year Obama administration?
Hmmm. I recall seeing those kids on TV the very next day. How did the elites on the left manage to take over their thoughts and brains in 24 hours??Good point. I think the protest was largely a political move by the left. Where was the massive protest sponsored by the left when mass school shootings happened during the 8 year Obama administration?
There's no cell phones, teachers, anti-gun organizations in Florida after all.Hmmm. I recall seeing those kids on TV the very next day. How did the elites on the left manage to take over their thoughts and brains in 24 hours??
Well consider the kids would have had to go on TV first to voice their opinions before the so called lefty groups found them, contacted them and managed to change their agenda to the same agenda which the kids already started.There's no cell phones, teachers, anti-gun organizations in Florida after all.
It's the derp state conspiracy to silence the right. Bewhir.Well consider the kids would have had to go on TV first to voice their opinions before the so called lefty groups found them, contacted them and managed to change their agenda to the same agenda which the kids already started.
You make as much sense as a paranoid moron.
My solution is for you and other Trump supporters to quit embracing irrational hatred and work towards common goals that all can benefit from. Maybe stop demonizing these young people who are clearly sending the message that they expect better from their elders.
You got close on the Dickey amendment.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...ould-rethink-cdc-ban-on-gun-violence-research
You left out "in whole or in part", which eliminates any money appropriated to the CDC being spent on anything that would "advocate or promote gun control."
Now, certainly, even you can see how that would be used to prevent any research into gun violence by the CDC. That'd happen because any conclusion drawn from said research would most certainly, in some form, advocate and/or promote some form of gun control, such as raising buying age for handguns or anything else.
Ok thank you for the reply. I will look up the issue from the constitutional angle more
I do wonder though if these protests would have the opposite of the intended effect. A lot of folks who would have voted R would not be voting in mid terms. Repulsed as they are by the vile creature. But these protests are being used to tell them....they are coming for your guns, your second amendment rights. So that would make them vote, while otherwise they would have just sat out.
Got evidence to backup that bullshit or maybe its just more right wing lies foisted upon the kids (or as you say actors)? By kids I'm talking the one's on the forefront of the protests.You mean the same kids that bullied and ostracized Nicholas Cruz expect better of their elders? The same kids that struggle not to eat laundry detergent expect better of their elders? What a joke. Progressheviks seem to have a daily struggle with understanding root causes of problems and enumerating real solutions. If the echo chamber of the left doesn't hand them a "solution", libtards drool and stomp around waiting until the next time they go boom-boom so they can brag about some accomplishment. Bunch of bandwagon SJWs waiting for their turn to be offended so they can get on tv and make a mockery of themselves.