Massive showing at ‪March For Our Lives‬ event. Anyone go?

[boomerang]

Remove the guns from the equation and there is no gun violence. Seems like the root cause to me.

I'm curious to hear your explanation for Switzerland. Approximately 25% of their populace own guns yet their gun violence rate is nearly immeasurable.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I'm curious to hear your explanation for Switzerland. Approximately 25% of their populace own guns yet their gun violence rate is nearly immeasurable.

U.S.A. - we're not europe, now you wanna be like them?

 

[Mai72]

Bunch of hippies!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm curious to hear your explanation for Switzerland. Approximately 25% of their populace own guns yet their gun violence rate is nearly immeasurable.

I’ll take a try, socialized healthcare, socialized mental healthcare
Regardless we are talking about the US. As I said earlier it would be nice to have some gun guys help craft something that is some what effective but you have to be willing to agree to stuff you may currently find unthinkable
BTW: I may be wrong but I believe the guns in Switzerland are not AR’s

 

[Starbuck1975]

I'm curious to hear your explanation for Switzerland. Approximately 25% of their populace own guns yet their gun violence rate is nearly immeasurable.

That’s easy. Switzerland has a strong tradition of a well regulated militia, dating back to the Napoleonic Wars, which continues to this day through mandatory military service.

 

[zinfamous]

Every day 9 people a day are killed due to distracted driving. LET'S BAN GUNS. Gets the press, and i'm supposed to give a rats ass about these little robots and their marching orders? Not going to happen.

wait, aren't you the guy terrified of robot drivers moreso than distracted drivers killing 9 people daily?

Please, bro, keep your rage targets straight and consistent!

 

[Chocu1a]

It's a tool, much like any other,

It's a tool with one single purpose- to kill. That is the ONLY purpose of a gun. Please, stop trying to play what-abouts.

 

[boomerang]

I’ll take a try, socialized healthcare, socialized mental healthcare
Regardless we are talking about the US. As I said earlier it would be nice to have some gun guys help craft something that is some what effective but you have to be willing to agree to stuff you may currently find unthinkable
BTW: I may be wrong but I believe the guns in Switzerland are not AR’s

Try again. Think along the lines of diversity. Put some more thought into it. (Your AR talking point is ridiculous. You should be ashamed for making it.)

U.S.A. - we're not europe, now you wanna be like them?

So we need to take away all the guns because we're not Europe? Try again. Put a lot more thought into it if possible,

That’s easy. Switzerland has a strong tradition of a well regulated militia, dating back to the Napoleonic Wars, which continues to this day through mandatory military service.

So, if we had mandatory military service in the U.S. there would be no need to confiscate all the guns? Try again. Put a lot more thought into it if possible.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Try again. Think along the lines of diversity. Put some more thought into it. (Your AR talking point is ridiculous. You should be ashamed for making it.)

So we need to take away all the guns because we're not Europe? Try again. Put a lot more thought into it if possible,

So, if we had mandatory military service in the U.S. there would be no need to confiscate all the guns? Try again. Put a lot more thought into it if possible.

Derp. Read what I wrote.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Try again. Think along the lines of diversity. Put some more thought into it. (Your AR talking point is ridiculous. You should be ashamed for making it.)

So we need to take away all the guns because we're not Europe? Try again. Put a lot more thought into it if possible,

So, if we had mandatory military service in the U.S. there would be no need to confiscate all the guns? Try again. Put a lot more thought into it if possible.

Let’s look at something more local and a little more than double Sweden’s gun deaths.
Massachusetts, want guys like me & ch33zwiz to start making the gun laws? Our State has the lowest gun deaths per capita, we are in the same ballpark as Switzerland.
80+% of the country says something needs to be done about guns, help craft what gets done or be left behind.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Boy howdy, there are some scared little gun humpers in this thread.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Boy howdy, there are some scared little gun humpers in this thread.

Welcome back!

 

[boomerang]

Parkland Student Delaney Tarr: “When They Give Us That Inch, That Bump Stock Ban, We Will Take A Mile”

That right there, combined with David Hogg acting like a brown shirt is detrimental to the cause. You take children who we know don't have fully formed brains, you make them front men for a cause and it's guaranteed to backfire.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Parkland Student Delaney Tarr: “When They Give Us That Inch, That Bump Stock Ban, We Will Take A Mile”

That right there, combined with David Hogg acting like a brown shirt is detrimental to the cause. You take children who we know don't have fully formed brains, you make them front men for a cause and it's guaranteed to backfire.

Oh no’s. They learned it from you.
This is also a great opportunity to say if you don’t help with meaningful change this guy will decide for you.

 

[boomerang]

Let’s look at something more local and a little more than double Sweden’s gun deaths.
Massachusetts, want guys like me & ch33zwiz to start making the gun laws? Our State has the lowest gun deaths per capita, we are in the same ballpark as Switzerland.
80+% of the country says something needs to be done about guns, help craft what gets done or be left behind.

Ooh, a threat. Niiice. I have no doubt that another civil war is inevitable in the country, it's just a matter of when it's going to start. Do you think you'll take away all the guns before or after?

 

[Stryke1983]

I'm curious to hear your explanation for Switzerland. Approximately 25% of their populace own guns yet their gun violence rate is nearly immeasurable.

Firstly their level of gun ownership is so high largely due to the fact that military service is mandatory and they are able to apply to buy their weapon afterward. So not only are a large portion of those gun owners active military/police but almost all the rest are ex military and have received appropriate training.

Secondly, within living memory in fact, they have had a strong need for a well armed and trained population due to being bordered by potentially hostile powers. And now that that danger is being relegated to history they are actually reducing the number of guns.

Thirdly, they actually have quite strict requirements for gun ownership and permits for owning them are usually issued at a local level and can involve more details background checks and psychological assessments.

TLDR: Almost all gun owners are active or ex-military/police with extensive training. They needed an armed population for national defence, the right to own a gun is still heavily restricted. None of which are applicable in the US, therefore Switzerland is not evidence for less gun control, it's actually more evidence for greater gun control.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Ooh, a threat. Niiice. I have no doubt that another civil war is inevitable in the country, it's just a matter of when it's going to start. Do you think you'll take away all the guns before or after?

What the actual fuck is wrong with you. Seriously where did you get the idea all guns will be taken away from you? What the fuck.
Where did you get the idea there is some grand liberal plan to confiscate all guns then take over the country.
Get out more, talk to people who have different opinions than you face to face, don’t be so afraid.

 

[Triumph]

Parkland Student Delaney Tarr: “When They Give Us That Inch, That Bump Stock Ban, We Will Take A Mile”

That right there, combined with David Hogg acting like a brown shirt is detrimental to the cause. You take children who we know don't have fully formed brains, you make them front men for a cause and it's guaranteed to backfire.

This is why gun owners don't want to compromise. Someone above said that the slippery slope argument is disingenuous, yet here is an exact example of why it's a concern.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

This is why gun owners don't want to compromise. Someone above said that the slippery slope argument is disingenuous, yet here is an exact example of why it's a concern.

I totally get that point, it would be nice to have some hardcore gun folks be willing to find a solution so it’s a balanced and effective solution.

 

[K1052]

This is why gun owners don't want to compromise. Someone above said that the slippery slope argument is disingenuous, yet here is an exact example of why it's a concern.

Some gun owners don't want compromise. This movement threatens to cleave the people out there who might own a gun or two for personal protection and/or hunting from the dudes who think they must have 75 ARs with bump stocks and enough ammo to invade Cuba because reasons. The NRA has spent many years and much effort keeping these groups together but it's unclear if that will hold forever...I suspect it won't.

 

[Commodus]

Parkland Student Delaney Tarr: “When They Give Us That Inch, That Bump Stock Ban, We Will Take A Mile”

That right there, combined with David Hogg acting like a brown shirt is detrimental to the cause. You take children who we know don't have fully formed brains, you make them front men for a cause and it's guaranteed to backfire.

As usual, you willfully misinterpret things.

There's no question that banning bump stocks is an "inch." It would've mitigated the number of casualties in Las Vegas and is a good move overall, but it's a subset and ultimately a token offering -- the gun industry controlling the NRA is willing to tolerate it because it doesn't affect actual gun sales, which is the only thing the NRA cares about.

Did you actually read the full statement? Doesn't seem like you did. Tarr called for a ban on assault weapons (read: semi-auto rifles), universal background checks and lower magazine capacities. She did not call for a total gun ban; she did not press for draconian measures that would make it unreasonably difficult to get a gun. There are very clearly defined limits to what she was asking for, yet you're falsely portraying her as an irrational monster.

It seems more like this 'child' is far more measured and articulate than you'll ever be.

 

[Starbuck1975]

So, if we had mandatory military service in the U.S. there would be no need to confiscate all the guns? Try again. Put a lot more thought into it if possible.

I don’t have to try again. The Founding Fathers qualified the right to bear arms within the context of a well regulated militia. A gun industry sponsored fetish organization changed that narrative through monied interests. Now, the people have had enough and are marching. The NRA can’t stop that.

 

[K1052]

Per a new Fox News poll, it seems the public is speaking pretty clearly about what they actually want to see done.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Per a new Fox News poll, it seems the public is speaking pretty clearly about what they actually want to see done.

Yup, I’d be perfectly satisfied with the first three questions.

 

[brycejones]

Not even pseudo socialists:

Supporting communist authoritarian Cuba:

Madoka posts bull shit in a gun thread. Go figure

Back to fucking your guns with your tiny penis skippy. Do you have to limit your self to a .22 for it be tight enough?