Matrix: help me understand this..

[slycat]

OK..with all the talk about Matrix 2...i still didn't quite get the first movie...
all was well and cool until near the end when Neo supposedly and DID get shot and die in the
matrix correct?...just like the other pals before him...they were killed by the suits in the 'virtual'
world and from the explanation they also die in the real...

so are they just trying to say since he is the ONE...he can-not die?...coz he died ..but..erm..after the kiss...
awoke?...wtf is that bullcrap?...if thats the explanation...i'm sorry its pretty lame...

so tell me...am i not understanding something...coz the peeps i watched it with was also like...'er...ok...what just happened?'

 

[MacBaine]

Don't think too hard about it.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Don't think too hard about it.

Yeah, wurd. Just keep playing the fight scenes over and over and just say to yourself: "Dude."

 

[slycat]

erm..if all i was interested in was fight scenes i think i'll watch JetLi

 

[zCypher]

You're not alone, I was thinking "wtf?" as well. I still love the movie though.

 

[Hubris]

My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

winner

 

[KingNothing]

I'm sorta wondering how they'll explain the fight scenes in Matrix 2 with Neo and whoever. I mean, if he's The One, why can't he just pull the same thing he did with the agents in Matrix 1 and explode them?

 

[codeyf]

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

Thanks bish! My brain hurts now!

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

Exactly. I thought it was fairly obvious.

 

[Dudd]

Damn, I have to watch the Matrix again. I've seen it before, but I can't for the life of me remember what you are talking about.

 

[slycat]

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

thank u...i can die peacefully now!

 

[milagro]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
I'm sorta wondering how they'll explain the fight scenes in Matrix 2 with Neo and whoever. I mean, if he's The One, why can't he just pull the same thing he did with the agents in Matrix 1 and explode them?

 

[Hubris]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
I'm sorta wondering how they'll explain the fight scenes in Matrix 2 with Neo and whoever. I mean, if he's The One, why can't he just pull the same thing he did with the agents in Matrix 1 and explode them?

Yeah, I'm kinda wondering that myself. You can tell that the movie wasn't supposed to have sequels. Let's hope they come up with a kickass reason.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

Should we expect the next two movies to take place in the real world and not the matrix. Neo, afterall, can't die in the matrix (if you apply your theory).

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Don't think too hard about it.

Yeah, wurd. Just keep playing the fight scenes over and over and just say to yourself: "Dude."

dude!!



(LOL!)

 

[DoNotDisturb]

ok.. he wasn't really the one. (NOT supposed to, wasn't destined to, according to the Oracle, and she's NEVER wrong)

HOWEVER, that lady told trinity that whoever she falls in loves with will BE the one.

SO, it changes the whole thing with Neo. After he dies , she admits she loves him. Since she falls in love with him, he BECOMES the one 'indirectly' and comes BACK to life.

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: Hubris

Originally posted by: KingNothing
I'm sorta wondering how they'll explain the fight scenes in Matrix 2 with Neo and whoever. I mean, if he's The One, why can't he just pull the same thing he did with the agents in Matrix 1 and explode them?

Yeah, I'm kinda wondering that myself. You can tell that the movie wasn't supposed to have sequels. Let's hope they come up with a kickass reason.

Uhh, the movie was known from the very onset that it would have sequels. They planned a trilogy and thats what they are making. Have faith people, they know what they are doing.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: Hubris

Originally posted by: KingNothing
I'm sorta wondering how they'll explain the fight scenes in Matrix 2 with Neo and whoever. I mean, if he's The One, why can't he just pull the same thing he did with the agents in Matrix 1 and explode them?

Yeah, I'm kinda wondering that myself. You can tell that the movie wasn't supposed to have sequels. Let's hope they come up with a kickass reason.

Actually the interviews with the Wachowski (sp?) brothers say that they always intended the Matrix to be a trilogy. The Animatrix (anime prequels) is coming out soon too, the first few episodes will be available for download starting in February.

 

[DoNotDisturb]

read what i posted if you guys want to know wtf really happened, seen it about 8902380942 times, actually understand it now.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

Should we expect the next two movies to take place in the real world and not the matrix. Neo, afterall, can't die in the matrix (if you apply your theory).

Have you watched the Reloaded trailers? Or read the Newsweek article that had all the plot stuff? It's definitely going to be based largely in the Matrix, although there will be some real world stuff as well. Third movie will be mostly real world, I think.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

"There is no spoon."

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: Hubris
My take was that since it's a "virtual" world, you don't really die, but your brain believes it has and thus you do really die. But because Neo is Neo, he was able to overcome that and thus not die. He knows intimately that it is just a virtual, not real world, and so can decide what he wants to happen and what he doesn't.

Exactly
Remember ... there is no spoon.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: DoNotDisturb
ok.. he wasn't really the one. (NOT supposed to, wasn't destined to, according to the Oracle, and she's NEVER wrong)

HOWEVER, that lady told trinity that whoever she falls in loves with will BE the one.

SO, it changes the whole thing with Neo. After he dies , she admits she loves him. Since she falls in love with him, he BECOMES the one 'indirectly' and comes BACK to life.

The oracle only told him "what he needed to hear."

 

[Armitage]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
I'm sorta wondering how they'll explain the fight scenes in Matrix 2 with Neo and whoever. I mean, if he's The One, why can't he just pull the same thing he did with the agents in Matrix 1 and explode them?

My guess is the matrix software was written by microsoft. We know that v1.0 failed & v2.0 is buggy, so I'm guessing that, in the new movie, they've patched the bug that let Neo do his trick and have upgraded to matrix v2.1 or maybe 3.0.