So NBC says one complaint. First in 20 years. But fire him in less than 24 hours. Not buying it. They had to have known more. Much more.
Unless Lauer copped to it and more immediately.
At this point in time I don't think Franken should do anything. There have been accusations which have been refuted by Arianna Huffington and I think the women can speak for themselves. Franken called for an ethics investigation straight off while Trump apparently altered his reality once again such that what he admitted as real commentary caught on film, the infamous "pussy" comment is not a fraud. Moore has been shown to be the despicable pedophile fraud that he is and so I don't see everything in black in white. Now if it were to come out in the investigation that Franken was another Trump or Moore? Then the question of what to do is settled with removal.
As for Trump, I can't figure out what is worse. Is he suffering from dementia where he genuinely doesn't remember that he admitted it was him in the past? Is he so mentally ill that he's since convinced himself reality is different and it wasn't him? Is he simply making more bald faced lies about himself because he thinks he can get away with it? All the possible answers are scary.
Trump pushes his own reality when actual reality doesn't suit him. The problem his the followers latch on and push the bullshit further. We now life in a world where even facts can't be agreed upon. Facts are whatever Trump says they are and the faithful don't question any of it.I honestly don't understand these kinds of questions. The truth has no meaning to Trump. He's just a narcissist that says whatever he wants at all times. I don't mean to single you out, I see constantly see these kinds of questions about the intent or meaning of what Trump says, and I can't understand the refusal to just accept that nothing he says has any meaning at all. Most of the shit he says is just repeating what he saw on Fox news or what someone told him (famously, often the last person he talked to).
Trump pushes his own reality when actual reality doesn't suit him. The problem his the followers latch on and push the bullshit further. We now life in a world where even facts can't be agreed upon. Facts are whatever Trump says they are and the faithful don't question any of it.
I really hope these companies/people have some actual proof before firing people for accusations like these. I'm sure they do, more than just a woman's word for it. The whole innocent until proven guilty thing.
That's such bullshit. Due process is for courts of law. We are not holding these people criminally or civilly liable. The whole notion of smaller government rests on the public holding other members of the public accountable by way of their votes, their dollars, their protests, etc. That is exactly what the public needs to be doing more.
At this point his supporters are the least concern. The government doesn't know what he believes and what he doesn't. They don't know what to act on what comes out of his mouth. The more this goes on the further into his own mind he appears to be descending. How do you operate with someone in control who seems to have developed their own reality? How do you advise that person on anything?Okay, what is the value in parsing what Trump says? His followers are another issue, we probably disagree on how to deal with them, but I hope nobody really believes that getting rid of Trump will do anything to control the wrath of his supporters.
But unlike Fox News where it took multiple lawsuits and an internal investigation to get rid of Ailes and O'Reilly NBC seems to have higher standards. Even after the fact Fox barely talked about it.This has nothing to do with principles, it's the blow back that liberal/democrats are experiencing from painting themselves in a corner by being the defacto champion of women's rights all these years and now it comes out how they were looking the other way when high powered democrat fundraisers like Weinstein were ejaculating in potted plants while holding women hostage to their sexual perversions for decades,
This is no different than the conservative/republicans tripping all over their so called family/religious/marriage values they preach to the world and try to legislate into law while cheating on their wives or having a gay affair with some boy in a hotel or chasing jail bait in the Alabama shopping malls.
Yes, and his position means that any accusations which are made after criminal and civil statutes of limitation have run, and which will therefore never be tested in court, must be presumed false by the voting public, no matter how credible or well corroborated the accusations are.
At this point his supporters are the least concern. The government doesn't know what he believes and what he doesn't. They don't know what to act on what comes out of his mouth. The more this goes on the further into his own mind he appears to be descending. How do you operate with someone in control who seems to have developed their own reality? How do you advise that person on anything?
This has nothing to do with principles, it's the blow back that liberal/democrats are experiencing from painting themselves in a corner by being the defacto champion of women's rights all these years and now it comes out how they were looking the other way when high powered democrat fundraisers like Weinstein were ejaculating in potted plants while holding women hostage to their sexual perversions for decades,
This is no different than the conservative/republicans tripping all over their so called family/religious/marriage values they preach to the world and try to legislate into law while cheating on their wives or having a gay affair with some boy in a hotel or chasing jail bait in the Alabama shopping malls.
I honestly don't understand these kinds of questions. The truth has no meaning to Trump. He's just a narcissist that says whatever he wants at all times. I don't mean to single you out, I see constantly see these kinds of questions about the intent or meaning of what Trump says, and I can't understand the refusal to just accept that nothing he says has any meaning at all. Most of the shit he says is just repeating what he saw on Fox news or what someone told him (famously, often the last person he talked to).
I honestly don't understand these kinds of questions. The truth has no meaning to Trump. He's just a narcissist that says whatever he wants at all times. I don't mean to single you out, I see constantly see these kinds of questions about the intent or meaning of what Trump says, and I can't understand the refusal to just accept that nothing he says has any meaning at all. Most of the shit he says is just repeating what he saw on Fox news or what someone told him (famously, often the last person he talked to).
No whataboutism allowed. You advocated for taking principled stances. This is a binary response.I’m ambivalent about that. He’s certainly accused of inappropriate behavior but it’s nothing even remotely as bad as Moore, who molested a child.
From the perspective of an outsider, it doesn't seem like American policies or official behavior has changed much at all. That's after a year of Trump at the helm, so that doesn't seem to be much of an issue.
Matt Lauer is not an elected official. Neither is Weinstein.That's such bullshit. Due process is for courts of law. We are not holding these people criminally or civilly liable. The whole notion of smaller government rests on the public holding other members of the public accountable by way of their votes, their dollars, their protests, etc. That is exactly what the public needs to be doing more.
No whataboutism allowed. You advocated for taking principles stances. This is a binary response.
No whataboutism allowed. You advocated for taking principles stances. This is a binary response.
Matt Lauer is not an elected official. Neither is Weinstein.
Not all wrongdoings are equal. But, if you are contending we should hold people accountable out of principle, then you also have to accept some small fish casualties going after the big fish. What I see are a growing number of dead small fish while the big fish continue to roam the seas.No it isn't. Unless you are saying that all wrongdoings are equal.
If he kept it quiet he could have been a Democrat Senator or President!Matt is now a qualified Republican candidate for the 2020 primary
What's worse? Voting for someone in spite of it or when you simply don't know about it?If he kept it quiet he could have been a Democrat Senator or President!