Maxtor 200GB 8MB failed, data recovery? lost all my college essays, help!

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prosaic

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JackBurton,

The moment you become capable of enforcing edicts, just let me know. Okay?

I'm not worrying about what others are doing any more than anyone else in this thread. Everyone has an opinion, and everyone has a right to express it, as long as they do so in accordance with posting guidelines.

- prosaic
 

fumbduck

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wow, i left it in the freezer for about 48 hours and now my computer booted up with it. windows nor hard disk manager sees it, but atleast i got somewhere..
 

prosaic

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What do you mean when you say the computer booted up with the drive? At this point you may be halfway home, but the LAST thing you want is to be writing to that drive right now! Hint: Windows writes to mounted drives when it boots up. Depending upon what you're seeing, you may or may not have demonstrated that the data can be recovered from the drive. For pity's sake, don't press your luck by just running it. If it's not recognized in any OS that you're running you need to NOT use it until you have a solid plan / method in place for recovering that data!

It's important for you to post EXACTLY what you saw when you started up the system with the drive in place after its sojourn in the freezer. With luck someone will have a solid suggestiion to make.

And, BTW, once you get that data copied off that drive -- BACK IT UP TO EXTERNAL MEDIA!

- prosaic
 

0roo0roo

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i'm surprised raid mirroring hasn't become standard now nwith todays insane drive capacities. anything that spins at 7200rpm is going to die sometime backing up all your stuff everyday is impractical for most people, and backing up everyonce in a while is too. 200gb is like 250+ cd-r's!! even dvdr sucks when it comes to this.


get a raid setup and then you can sleep soundly.
 

prosaic

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm surprised raid mirroring hasn't become standard now nwith todays insane drive capacities. anything that spins at 7200rpm is going to die sometime backing up all your stuff everyday is impractical for most people, and backing up everyonce in a while is too. 200gb is like 250+ cd-r's!! even dvdr sucks when it comes to this.


get a raid setup and then you can sleep soundly.

Uh, no. It's somewhat safer than a single disk. It's still not a substitute for backup. It's NOT backing up every day that's impractical, as anyone who's ever run into Mr. Murphy can tell you. It's true that, for those with budget limitations, backing up more than a few gigs of data per day to current optical media is pretty time-consuming. So what? Is all of that something you really have to back up? The backups I'm referring to as essential are actual business and personal data which is not easily replaceable, not the 20 gigs per day of MP3s or ripped DVDs that some people collect. At my office I sometimes collect several gigabytes per day of data from field operations. That data has to be sifted so that content needed for continuing live analysis of sites can be kept in online storage while other supporting data can be shunted to offline storage. This requires us to use a fairly complex backup solution for a small office, involving use of a SAN for online storage and RAID tape for offline storage as well as a remote duplicate of that system miles away. It's expensive as all get out, but not as expensive as losing everything. If the data is important, it gets backed up. Every damned day. At least.

Some people don't feel that way. Their data isn't important. They may say that it is. But it isn't. Sooner or later everyone who depends heavily upon information technology becomes a believer. Some of those people only learn after much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

- prosaic
 

0roo0roo

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Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: prosaic
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'm surprised raid mirroring hasn't become standard now nwith todays insane drive capacities. anything that spins at 7200rpm is going to die sometime backing up all your stuff everyday is impractical for most people, and backing up everyonce in a while is too. 200gb is like 250+ cd-r's!! even dvdr sucks when it comes to this.


get a raid setup and then you can sleep soundly.

Uh, no. It's somewhat safer than a single disk. It's still not a substitute for backup. It's NOT backing up every day that's impractical, as anyone who's ever run into Mr. Murphy can tell you. It's true that, for those with budget limitations, backing up more than a few gigs of data per day to current optical media is pretty time-consuming. So what? Is all of that something you really have to back up? The backups I'm referring to as essential are actual business and personal data which is not easily replaceable, not the 20 gigs per day of MP3s or ripped DVDs that some people collect. At my office I sometimes collect several gigabytes per day of data from field operations. That data has to be sifted so that content needed for continuing live analysis of sites can be kept in online storage while other supporting data can be shunted to offline storage. This requires us to use a fairly complex backup solution for a small office, involving use of a SAN for online storage and RAID tape for offline storage as well as a remote duplicate of that system miles away. It's expensive as all get out, but not as expensive as losing everything. If the data is important, it gets backed up. Every damned day. At least.

Some people don't feel that way. Their data isn't important. They may say that it is. But it isn't. Sooner or later everyone who depends heavily upon information technology becomes a believer. Some of those people only learn after much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

- prosaic



hehe of course, but i was talking about normal users, like students and well.. any home user. backing up to a cd isn't going to help you anymore then raid in that situation since your going to keep your cd with your computer. if your room burns down u screwed either way. so raid is just fine in that situation, its the most hands off/transparent solution possible for an end user. but i guess when people skimp, they skimp on things like this.
 

prosaic

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hehe of course, but i was talking about normal users, like students and well.. any home user. backing up to a cd isn't going to help you anymore then raid in that situation since your going to keep your cd with your computer. if your room burns down u screwed either way. so raid is just fine in that situation, its the most hands off/transparent solution possible for an end user. but i guess when people skimp, they skimp on things like this.

Hey, I'm normal -- well sort of. Except for the fact that I'm in my fifties and have been a student all of my life. (I do subsidize my studies by teaching and writing.) This is an academic setting I'm talking about. We're cheap as hell, just not about the data. My desk is barely recognizable as a human artifact. If archaeologists ever dig my office up after the computers are removed they will postulate that we reverted to stone age technology at this time.

Actually, I shouldn't joke about that. I figure it will be happening pretty soon. And that's if we're lucky!

- prosaic
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: RanDum72
You can also try your own surgery which I have done before. Get the same model drive and swap out the circuit boards. I had a fujitsu IDE drive and a seagate SCSI drive that I have done this successfully on. Both cases the drives would be recognized in BIOS but beyond that they did not work. Can't guaruntee this would work for you since I am not familiar with that model drive.

But...dang... sacrifice another perfectly good 200gig drive to save another? And they aren't cheap...It all boils down to how much the files are worth. Just get a ballpark figure from those data recovery guys. But one thing for sure is they're not cheap either.
Anyway, that sucks. All you important stuff in there locked away for good. Did you loose all your good pr0n too?:Q

Sacrifice one to get the data back, then RMA.

 
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