Maxtor Hard Drives-- Great Prices!!.... Even BETTER Price on the 73.4GB SCSI!

[kombatmud]

Originally posted by: OneStepsAhead

Originally posted by: jm0ris0n
My IBM 10K Scsi Is kicking just fine thank you

They ALL do, jm0ris0n, until they stop!

I haven't heard of anyone complaining about an IBM SCSI drive failing. All of the problems I've read about have been with IBM's IDE drives. Both of my IBM 10k drives have been running fine for over 2 years. On the other hand, I've had both a Quantum Atlas 10k and a Seagate Cheetah 9LP fail in that time.

 

[sleefer]

I have several (5) IBM SCSI drives that are at least 1-2 yrs. old and all are running fine. Here's something else to consider when comparing the 73LZX to the 10K II:
IBM 73.4 GB 73LZX = 6 disks, 12 heads.
Quantum 73.4 GB Atlas 10K II = 10 disks, 20 heads.
The 73LZX is faster, quieter, and generates less heat, in addition to being smaller.

 

[cremefilled]

From looking over many, many differnt web sites and there prices, these seem to be great prices on some maxtor hdd's

Taking the 20GB drive as an example, I counted 22 better shipped prices on Pricewatch. The shipping prices ensure that this isn't much of a deal.

To do a more specific search on Pricewatch, do a search within the hard drive category for the size and speed you want, e.g., "20.0gb 7200".

It's a common mini-scam to inflate the shipping charges to make up for an ostensibly low selling price (which, considering your 1900+ posts, I'm sure you know already).

 

[agent2099]

What about 2 80GB 7200 RMP IDEs drives in a Raid array. I know that would cost less, would that outperform a 10k SCSI drive?

 

[Cybordolphin]

Huh??

 

[slaman]

I ran SCSI drives in my system for years - they are definately good, but ended up causing me more headaches. Plus, IDE is now very comparable. I ran Quantum drives without a single problem and I bought it used. Maxtor bought out Quantum, so I think this may be rebadged Quantums? If so - they are very reliable.

Regarding the 80pin SCA connector, just buy the adapter, it's like $5 and has zero effect on the performance of the drive.

Good luck to those who get in on this deal!

 

[DestruyaUR]

It may match it in sustained writes, but there are better parts to running one large SCSI drive as opposed to a RAID 0 array.

- multitasking ability - IDE drives can only focus on one thing at once, SCSI drives can do multiple things at once - hence the ability to run a game like Quake III whilst burning a CD.

- lower CPU overhead - IDE RAID 0 arrays can take up much of a CPU's power during heavy seeks, while SCSI drives utilize much much less CPU overhead since the I/O negotiations are handled by the controller chip. The only thing that limits SCSI's speed is the PCI bus it's plugged into - a typical 32-bit, 33Mhz slot will offer a maximum of 133MB/sec, a 64-bit, 33Mhz slot 266MB/sec, and 64-bit, 66Mhz 320MB/sec. PCI-X offers a much larger potential bandwidth per slot, but you'll always be limited by the maximum bus speed of your motherboard. For example, Hypertransport on nForce boards expand the maximum bandwidth to 800MB/sec, but that's still limited by the PCI bus limited speed of 133MB/sec - thus, one slot can be maxxed out in speed yet still leave some for other cards and IDE drives. Ideally, one could stick multiple U160 adapters and be able to run 30 drives (drives can easily be put in external drive towers at little loss of speed - though enclosures that house over three LVD drives are prohibitively expensive - as are external LVD-rated cables)

- lesser chance of failure - one drive in a RAID 0 array fails, and you're in a world of hurt. Only when you run a RAID 10 or 0+1 array do you near the stability of SCSI. And that takes four drives and two IDE channels at the cost of two IRQs. 15 SCSI devices can be bound to one LVD chain and one IRQ with no loss in speed.

I hope this answers some questions - any who still have any are welcome to PM me any questions and I'll try my best to answer them.

 

[kombatmud]

Originally posted by: slaman
I ran SCSI drives in my system for years - they are definately good, but ended up causing me more headaches. Plus, IDE is now very comparable. I ran Quantum drives without a single problem and I bought it used. Maxtor bought out Quantum, so I think this may be rebadged Quantums? If so - they are very reliable.

Regarding the 80pin SCA connector, just buy the adapter, it's like $5 and has zero effect on the performance of the drive.

Good luck to those who get in on this deal!

IDE is not even remotely comparable to SCSI. It's pricing is better, but it's performance is far inferior.

When maxtor bought quantum, they took over their scsi division as well. They did rebadge a lot of quantum drives, as well as continuing to improve them.

I agree completely about the 80 pin SCA adapter. The drive is just as fast and reliable, and usually much cheaper. But you have to make sure you buy an LVD capable adapter (preferrably a U160 or U320 capable adapter), otherwise it will be limited to Ultra-wide SCSI speeds.