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[Kev]

Why do you people care about sales so much? Why do you argue about them? Do you have stock in any of the companies? What difference does it make? And why does it take so long for the reply window to load?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Kev
Why do you people care about sales so much? Why do you argue about them? Do you have stock in any of the companies? What difference does it make? And why does it take so long for the reply window to load?

why did you reply to this thread?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
PS2 sales may not have been any better, but people were just waiting for better games before buying one. PS3 sales are slow because everyone is buying a Wii or 360 instead. Everyone will already have a Wii or 360 and PS3 sales will never pickup, even with good games.

That's true for the 360. Right now for most people if you have a PS2 and 360 there is almost no point in buying a PS3 except for blu-ray.

Wii less so since it isn't capable of the next-gen visuals needed to fully enjoy action and simulation games. The PS3 will get a lot of next-gen titles made for the 360, but many can't be ported well or at all to the wii.

The PS3 is not getting very many exclusives, so most buyers will either not already have a 360 or will be hardcore gamers willing to own both PS3 and 360 for their exclusives. And to have something to play while their 360 is off at Microsoft being repaired again

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Kev
Why do you people care about sales so much? Why do you argue about them? Do you have stock in any of the companies? What difference does it make? And why does it take so long for the reply window to load?

why did you reply to this thread?

To ask why you people care about sales so much. I thought that was pretty clear in my post. Do you require further explanation?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Kev
Why do you people care about sales so much? Why do you argue about them? Do you have stock in any of the companies? What difference does it make? And why does it take so long for the reply window to load?

why did you reply to this thread?

To ask why you people care about sales so much. I thought that was pretty clear in my post. Do you require further explanation?

I've explained this many times in the past, I guess one more time won't hurt.

More console sales = more available games. Last generation the PS2 made the Xbox and the Gamecube its bitches. Thus the PS2 had a huge selection of games, Xbox had a good selection of games, and most of the good games on the Gamecube were first party and second party titles. So if you own a system or enjoy one system over another, you have a vested interest in seeing that system sell better than its competitors, because it gives game developers more incentive to develop games for your system.

Games sell consoles. Consoles sell games. A slow start can be disastrous. No one wants to develop for a marginal player.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Kev
Why do you people care about sales so much? Why do you argue about them? Do you have stock in any of the companies? What difference does it make? And why does it take so long for the reply window to load?

why did you reply to this thread?

To ask why you people care about sales so much. I thought that was pretty clear in my post. Do you require further explanation?

I thought it was pretty obvious by all the replies in this thread that people discuss it because it's enjoyable to discuss it ...

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Kev
Why do you people care about sales so much? Why do you argue about them? Do you have stock in any of the companies? What difference does it make? And why does it take so long for the reply window to load?

why did you reply to this thread?

To ask why you people care about sales so much. I thought that was pretty clear in my post. Do you require further explanation?

I've explained this many times in the past, I guess one more time won't hurt.

More console sales = more available games. Last generation the PS2 made the Xbox and the Gamecube its bitches. Thus the PS2 had a huge selection of games, Xbox had a good selection of games, and most of the good games on the Gamecube were first party and second party titles. So if you own a system or enjoy one system over another, you have a vested interest in seeing that system sell better than its competitors, because it gives game developers more incentive to develop games for your system.

Games sell consoles. Consoles sell games. A slow start can be disastrous. No one wants to develop for a marginal player.

That at least makes sense. It seems to me though that most people approach this as some kind of pathetic pissing match.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Kev
Why do you people care about sales so much? Why do you argue about them? Do you have stock in any of the companies? What difference does it make? And why does it take so long for the reply window to load?

why did you reply to this thread?

To ask why you people care about sales so much. I thought that was pretty clear in my post. Do you require further explanation?

I've explained this many times in the past, I guess one more time won't hurt.

More console sales = more available games. Last generation the PS2 made the Xbox and the Gamecube its bitches. Thus the PS2 had a huge selection of games, Xbox had a good selection of games, and most of the good games on the Gamecube were first party and second party titles. So if you own a system or enjoy one system over another, you have a vested interest in seeing that system sell better than its competitors, because it gives game developers more incentive to develop games for your system.

Games sell consoles. Consoles sell games. A slow start can be disastrous. No one wants to develop for a marginal player.

That at least makes sense. It seems to me though that most people approach this as some kind of pathetic pissing match.

it's just fun to discuss. it's just like the hd-dvd and blu-ray discussion. or it's like comparing cars to one another.

 

[TallBill]

Good replies all around. I'll add that I currently dont own any of the systems (mostly because of where I'm at). My 360 broke in a month and I returned it. I've only played the PS3 once for about two hours, and the wii isn't worth my time. I ended up owning one game for my gamecube, and the wii has the same graphics and forced ingenuity.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: mugs
I would think that a PS3 owner like DaveSimmons would be more concerned that the PS2 is beating the PS3 so severely. The PS3 PLAYS PS2 games, so they're just throwing their money down the drain if they plan on buying a PS3 in the future. To me that indicates that the price is a big factor for many people. I know people like to say that "hardcore gamers" are willing to pay that, but a system can't be successful if it doesn't have mass market appeal. You have to sell systems to get the great games that will help sell more systems.

Sony needs to drop the price.

I agree Sony needs a price drop if they want to get their sales back up above 100K again, since not enough people have HDTVs and care about blu-ray.

I'm not really concerned about the PS3's success myself, it's just an interesting debate. I play PC games more than consoles, and plan to buy a 360 once MS starts building reliable ones.

I'll be able to play everything except Mario Waggle Fun IX, and if the Wii ever gets enough exclusives that interest me I'll get one.