Because the current strategy is working splendidly.
Lol and there it is.
"You have said horrible things"
Like what
"You and everyone else knows what you have said!"
And you think I'm like Trump?
You mean the one where half the liberals refuse to believe trumpsters voted for him because he pandered to them.
No, I said your sort carry water for them, which you evidently couldn't stop doing. Not that hard to understand even if you'll forever pretend otherwise.
So show me where I have held water for them. Point out where I have helped "them". If its so evident it should not be hard to show me right?
"So Trump is terrible, so is Clinton. The GOP panders to racists, but you know BLM are the Real racists. "
Literally next post:
"Clinton is great compared to Trump. Shit compared to other Dems, but great vs Trump. The GOP does pander to racists, and BLM has many racist ideas."
Just look at how easy lying comes to these sorts.
Hahahaha ok.
So I'm assuming that the only part that you consider to be a lie is the BLM has racist ideas? Or do you consider it a lie that Hillary was shit compared to other Dems, but far better than Trump?
"Yeah trump lies but really clinton lies too" --prototypically dishonest trump water boy
"Yeah the GOP is racist but really the dems are racist too" --prototypically dishonest trump water boy
"I never said those things" --prototypically dishonest trump water boy
In your defense you're not any worse than your colleagues, which rather proves the point about interchangeability.
So you really cant understand words that you are reading.
I see agentf is still being allowed to kill any value in this forum. Of course the mods will allow him to turn it into a sewer because he's on the correct political team. So I'll probably be banned for "calling out mods" but who cares at this point, I won't be missing much.
Nope, see the Syria intervention thread, pcgeek has no shame when it comes to intellectual dishonesty.
You voted for a candidate that willingly pushes conspiracy theories, such as that. One issue voting is for simple minds...so when you say that you're in it for the supreme court seat, it's easy to lump you on with the other simple minds, such as those who actually believed pizza gate was real. They're on your side.
What does "wreck the election" even mean?
Trump Jr. flat out admitted he met with Russians for the specific purpose of getting information to trash Hillary. That doesn't qualify as "wreck the election." Of course, it does qualify as colluding with Russia to influence the election, but you don't care about that because fuck Hillary. You can't come out and say that though, so instead you'll pretend this whole thing is about "wrecking" the election.
This is where you're not getting it. The average middle class person already has employer subsidized health insurance. It's an imperfect system and we should have never gone down that road but the ship has already sailed. When one of those employed middle class persons hears "single payer" they don't see some new benefit to them (remember they already have health insurance via their job) apart from continuation of insurance should they lose that job until they get a new job that offers health insurance again, and you could offer them something like that without needing to go full single payer. You can argue that such a short-term job loss need scenario is unrealistic all you want but that's the thought pattern the middle class has. When you start advocating for single payer they see that it as a means to benefit others and what's worse is they will typically believe (not altogether incorrectly) that the middle class will be the ones footing the bill for it. You see it as some amazing universal social benefit, the middle class sees it as another welfare scheme they won't benefit from (they hope!). While they wouldn't necessarily object to allowing taxpayer money to help expand coverage to the poor that simply cannot be the primary benefit they see. Unless and until you can explain (with believable cause/effect and numbers to back it up) how 'single payer' or any other system that's not the current one directly, immediately, and primarily helps the middle class (while demonstrating how middle class paying for the healthcare of the poor would reduce costs to the middle class) then single-payer is basically a non-starter. You could say that it would cover 100 trillion additional uninsured, unless you make healthcare cheaper for all it's going to fail.
The middle class will foot the bill for it if it's an income based tax, which is why I have always advocated for a consumption based tax, not an income tax.
One disincentives you from working and being employed - the other is required from everyone. You must eat. You must sleep, and you must consume items, that simple.
-65 million votersWhy because I changed my mind
You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.
Saving everyone in 2008 got liberals nothing but more contempt. You go ahead and keep trying the same thing and expecting different results.
That isn't the part you can't say.Do you need to be spoon fed? Get your mother to do it.
Yes I can say it, Fuck Hillary. See.
I'm not telling anyone to sink the ship. I'm telling you it is too late. The ship will sink no matter what you do now. Time to stop bailing water for the other half who would rather piss into the hull.2008 was a pretty good message, I'd like to see more of that. "Got nothing", that's pretty much true. The best we got from '08 was the ACA, an insurance company boondoggle from the Heritage Foundation. We mandated coverage without paying for it. A plan that fails unless Congress props it up with additonal investments they'll never commit to. A real beauty that one.
The ACA was punished, not rewarded. So why compromise? People want help, not some overpriced gift card from Wall Street.
Trying the same thing? You clearly do not know where I'm coming from yet, if you think anyone has practiced what I stand for. I'll post that topic later, but let's focus. This is about attitude. Country is in a tempest, you're telling us to sink the ship. That's the sort of emotional distress that you call a psychologist for. Seek some help. I'll still be here to welcome you back.
I see agentf is still being allowed to kill any value in this forum. Of course the mods will allow him to turn it into a sewer because he's on the correct political team. So I'll probably be banned for "calling out mods" but who cares at this point, I won't be missing much.
Most of the shittier conservative trolls that got banned here acted poorly for a long time before they got the boot.
He's a shitposter and now he's one of only two people on here I have on ignore. It's way better this way.
He is right in this case.Most of the shittier conservative trolls that got banned here acted poorly for a long time before they got the boot.
He's a shitposter and now he's one of only two people on here I have on ignore. It's way better this way.
2008 was a pretty good message, I'd like to see more of that. "Got nothing", that's pretty much true. The best we got from '08 was the ACA, an insurance company boondoggle from the Heritage Foundation. We mandated coverage without paying for it. A plan that fails unless Congress props it up with additonal investments they'll never commit to. A real beauty that one.
The ACA was punished, not rewarded. So why compromise? People want help, not some overpriced gift card from Wall Street.
Trying the same thing? You clearly do not know where I'm coming from yet, if you think anyone has practiced what I stand for. I'll post that topic later, but let's focus. This is about attitude. Country is in a tempest, you're telling us to sink the ship. That's the sort of emotional distress that you call a psychologist for. Seek some help. I'll still be here to welcome you back.
I see agentf is still being allowed to kill any value in this forum. Of course the mods will allow him to turn it into a sewer because he's on the correct political team. So I'll probably be banned for "calling out mods" but who cares at this point, I won't be missing much.
I think it's pretty valuable to see the world for what it is, in contrast to typical games people play. For example, the game where conservatives advise/agree with dim witted D friends over a losing strategy for that party. No mystery why folks with the most to lose from transparency greatly prefer the games.
As another example, many democrats evidently love the game more than they care for liberalism. Pretty easy to see why they prefer a political system with more glenn1/realibrad's of the world compared to people like me.
Uhh, nobody on "the correct political team" is claiming Agent. He's just a very special troll, here to rave in a degenerate fashion about all the evil racist degens & their supposed enablers. His arguments take the classic form of Alt-right trolls in every respect other than the POV. He's not just trolling Libs- he's trolling everybody.
That isn't the part you can't say.
See? You can't admit it even though Trump Jr. explicitly admitted it.No collusion found. That is why they are still investigating. Are you dense? Never mind I already know the answer.