Maybe Malaysia should stop flying planes: 777 crashed in Ukraine

[preslove]

Yikes. Ukraine probably thought it was a Russian military plane or something. Or maybe there's more to it and it was intentional. Sucks that innocent lives are dragged down into this crap.

Ukraine hasn't been shooting down planes with SAMs. The "rebels" have been using the BUK for a week or so to shoot down Ukrainian planes.

 

[slayer202]

CNN BREAKING NEWS
WAS AIRLINER SHOT DOWN?

what kind of news site gets updated, at most, like 3 times a day. clowns

 

[Kaido]

This guy's feed has a lot of info incoming: (take accuracy with a grain of salt)

https://twitter.com/djp3tros

 

[Pocatello]

what kind of news site gets updated, at most, like 3 times a day. clowns

On weekend, they recycle tabloid type materials. Such as videos of cute babies and dogs.

 

[slayer202]

On weekend, they recycle tabloid type materials. Such as videos of cute babies and dogs.

not just the weekend. but it does seem like they only work M-F 9-5


here's a good new update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEDH2Z2_6Zw

 

[William Gaatjes]

154 Dutch citizens ...

 

[TechBoyJK]

a couple that perished on the plane

 

[Exterous]

Not all. FAA banned US flights from going over it: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/faa-prohibited-us-airliners-ukraine

They knew that it was russia doing the fighting, so extra precautions should be taken.

The US was in the minority in doing this. Just a quick look reveals the following major airlines not diverting at the time:
TG, SQ, MH, KL, VN, TK, QR, AI, DY, BR, EK, LH
And thats not even all of them

Hell UA was flying over Baghdad to KWI during times that were quite a bit more volatile and Anti-US than this

Right, but it was well known that the 'separatists' were basically Russian military/backed by the Russian military.

This one's different... It's an open secret that Russia's probably supplying heavy equipment and skilled personnel.

Backed by Russia doesn't matter as a reason to not fly over because Russia didn't give them weapons capable of downing a civilian airliner at that altitude

It's also known that separatists "acquired" a number of well equipped Ukrainian military bases at the onset of this charade. They've also have shot down at least two Ukrainian military aircraft very recently -- and proceeded to use it as propaganda.

Diverting around every possible area of conflict where someone might get their hands on something that could shoot down an airliner is not really a possibility. Plus the odds are incredibly small that something like this will happen. There are over 100,000 flights a day world wide. How often does this happen? It was more dangerous for you to drive to work today than for MH to fly over the Ukraine.

FWIW - this is a fairly frequent flight. I think once a day

 

[eits]

i think it's more like malaysia needs to stop with the bad luck and ukraine needs its ass kicked for shooting down a civilian plane.

 

[eits]

a couple that perished on the plane

did you know them?

 

[William Gaatjes]

2:00 GMT there will be a team of people from Malaysian airlines flown to Kiev with as end destination the crash site.

 

[William Gaatjes]

15 Malaysian flight crew.
173 Dutch passengers.
27 Australian passengers.
23 Malaysian passengers.
11 Indonesian passengers.
And more.
And if i have heard correctly, 47 unaccounted for. That is being investigated.

This is horrible.

 

[preslove]

The US was in the minority in doing this. Just a quick look reveals the following major airlines not diverting at the time:
TG, SQ, MH, KL, VN, TK, QR, AI, DY, BR, EK, LH
And thats not even all of them

Hell UA was flying over Baghdad to KWI during times that were quite a bit more volatile and Anti-US than this





Backed by Russia doesn't matter as a reason to not fly over because Russia didn't give them weapons capable of downing a civilian airliner at that altitude



Diverting around every possible area of conflict where someone might get their hands on something that could shoot down an airliner is not really a possibility. Plus the odds are incredibly small that something like this will happen. There are over 100,000 flights a day world wide. How often does this happen? It was more dangerous for you to drive to work today than for MH to fly over the Ukraine.

FWIW - this is a fairly frequent flight. I think once a day

Backed by russia does apparently mean they have access to sophisticated weapons capable of taking out an aircraft at 33,000 feet. The Iraqi insurgency never had these kinds of weapons.

 

[ElFenix]

msnbc's krystal ball (yes, that's her name) pranked live on air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZnAj6-BBQ

 

[eits]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/mh17-passenger-joked-about-disappearing-plane?bffbnews

 

[Artorias]

msnbc's krystal ball (yes, that's her name) pranked live on air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZnAj6-BBQ

I love she continues to ask him another question, how clueless can you be.

 

[eits]

msnbc's krystal ball (yes, that's her name) pranked live on air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZnAj6-BBQ

i'm usually all for howard stern pranks, but this is wrong, and i'm sure howard stern would feel the same way. it's one thing to do it during a tennis match or an eyewitness account for some robbery or something... it's another thing with almost 300 people die a horrific death.

 

[Ns1]

Full transcript.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukr...pped-conversation-full-transcript-356545.html

Nm not full. Doesn't have the bit on spies.

 

[Imp]

Backed by Russia doesn't matter as a reason to not fly over because Russia didn't give them weapons capable of downing a civilian airliner at that altitude

Diverting around every possible area of conflict where someone might get their hands on something that could shoot down an airliner is not really a possibility. Plus the odds are incredibly small that something like this will happen. There are over 100,000 flights a day world wide. How often does this happen? It was more dangerous for you to drive to work today than for MH to fly over the Ukraine.

FWIW - this is a fairly frequent flight. I think once a day

True, diverting around every conflict area would be impossible. And Russia et al. sells arms to everyone, so ya, it'd be hard to avoid them.

But someone's provided them tanks and APCs. I'd be surprised if vehicle-based SAMs weren't also provided. And since more modern military aircraft operate well above 30,000 feet, I wouldn't be surprised if more modern vehicle-based SAMs wouldn't be able to at least get to 30,000 feet.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

msnbc's krystal ball (yes, that's her name) pranked live on air

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZnAj6-BBQ

Well Captain Janks retirement was short lived

 

[Fanatical Meat]

i'm usually all for howard stern pranks, but this is wrong, and i'm sure howard stern would feel the same way. it's one thing to do it during a tennis match or an eyewitness account for some robbery or something... it's another thing with almost 300 people die a horrific death.

I feel a similar way. The guy who does most of the severe prank calls says he does it because the news cycle is so desperate to have exclusives that they do zero fact checking, none, not even a call back to verify anything.

 

[MongGrel]

Someone looks to be starting a translate of it on the reddit feed

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/pravolivo?origi...914/0&tw_i=489853711335051264&tw_p=tweetembed



Continuing now that she's seen the longer video:

Holy fuck

Big Holy Fuck.

 

[Ns1]

Lol pilot on the PA describing our route, aka "we ain't flying over that shit!"

 

[yuchai]

Diverting around every possible area of conflict where someone might get their hands on something that could shoot down an airliner is not really a possibility. Plus the odds are incredibly small that something like this will happen. There are over 100,000 flights a day world wide. How often does this happen? It was more dangerous for you to drive to work today than for MH to fly over the Ukraine.

FWIW - this is a fairly frequent flight. I think once a day

Well the Ukraine conflict itself only started in the last few months, so the odds are probably not as low as you made it out to be...

By the way, I think all the airlines are announcing that they would stop flying over the region. So the threat is clearly there, just wasn't properly identified and avoided before the incident showed that it's credible.

 

[preslove]

Full transcript.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukr...pped-conversation-full-transcript-356545.html

Nm not full. Doesn't have the bit on spies.

A "Cossack" unit shot it down...

Yep, Russian paramilitary unites shot it down.