Maybe we should have a general Meatball Ron (desantis) thread

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uallas5

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This is a good thing right? And should finally deliver on reparations to black people and ludicrous idea on the left that conservatives are into “book burnings” lol. So funny those dweebs.

Florida now required to teach that slavery was a good thing… For the slaves. So the least blacks can do is say thank you I guess.


Resident conservatives wanna chime in?
@pcgeek11 , @brandonbull, @FelixDeCat, @imported_tajmahal, @Puffnstuff, @cmcartman
@dphantom

This is of course a DeSantis initiative.
I mean, some Jews at Auschwitz learned how to operate munitions manufacturing equipment, right?
 

repoman0

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Dead eyes DeSantis wants to cut social security for younger people. Alienating all but the part of your base that is rapidly dying off is certainly one strategy. Dude is just trying to lose.

 

Stokely

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People need to wake up about this creep. This latest thing trying to sugarcoat slavery is just vile. That's nothing new, I remember hearing asshats talk about how "slaves lives were better than they were in Africa, they kept slaves there too!"

Anyone saying slavery is good, just say this to them: "You try it. You'll be flogged if you aren't a good boy but you'll be learning life skills. Your wife and daughters are to be used as the master sees fit, but he probably won't hurt them too much."

Anyone ever saying slavery had positive aspects is an asshole. Treat them accordingly. I fully expect to run into people here (in FL) that might say as much to me, and they are going to get that response, family friends coworkers or whoever. And after that, there will be as little contact as possible.

This shit is IN SCHOOLS or soon will be, this isn't just rhetoric. Wake up.
 

MrSquished

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People need to wake up about this creep. This latest thing trying to sugarcoat slavery is just vile. That's nothing new, I remember hearing asshats talk about how "slaves lives were better than they were in Africa, they kept slaves there too!"

Anyone saying slavery is good, just say this to them: "You try it. You'll be flogged if you aren't a good boy but you'll be learning life skills. Your wife and daughters are to be used as the master sees fit, but he probably won't hurt them too much."

Anyone ever saying slavery had positive aspects is an asshole. Treat them accordingly. I fully expect to run into people here (in FL) that might say as much to me, and they are going to get that response, family friends coworkers or whoever. And after that, there will be as little contact as possible.

This shit is IN SCHOOLS or soon will be, this isn't just rhetoric. Wake up.


There are some naive people out there that think the GQP does not believe any of this culture stuff, it's just a tool. Well that's fucking idiotic, a ton of these people, in power and not, believe all this culture war and anti woke stuff.

We will never win unless we understand the enemy
 
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Dead eyes DeSantis wants to cut social security for younger people. Alienating all but the part of your base that is rapidly dying off is certainly one strategy. Dude is just trying to lose.


I don't agree, he's desperately trying to win now at all cost, because he knows that if they don't get in power and start turning things into a dictatorship, that they will start losing and never be able to win again with their horrible policies.

People need to wake up about this creep. This latest thing trying to sugarcoat slavery is just vile. That's nothing new, I remember hearing asshats talk about how "slaves lives were better than they were in Africa, they kept slaves there too!"

Anyone saying slavery is good, just say this to them: "You try it. You'll be flogged if you aren't a good boy but you'll be learning life skills. Your wife and daughters are to be used as the master sees fit, but he probably won't hurt them too much."

Anyone ever saying slavery had positive aspects is an asshole. Treat them accordingly. I fully expect to run into people here (in FL) that might say as much to me, and they are going to get that response, family friends coworkers or whoever. And after that, there will be as little contact as possible.

This shit is IN SCHOOLS or soon will be, this isn't just rhetoric. Wake up.

The problem is, you're at least a decade too late for that to accomplish anything.

However, what you need to do is just start recording them saying this shit. Don't respond, don't react, just pull out your phone and start recording them. See how quickly they STFU.

There are some naive people out there that think the GQP does not believe any of this culture stuff, it's just a tool. Well that's fucking idiotic, a ton of these people, in power and not, believe all this culture war and anti woke stuff.

We will never win unless we understand the enemy

I disagree. They don't believe the insane shit (we've repeatedly seen this, like the Fox communications), but they know the brainwashed, braindead morons they're exploiting to keep power do or will so they keep with it. There's a few of the more recent fringe morons like the howler monkey women but even they don't believe (although honestly that's because they're simply too stupid to understand much of it either way) a good chunk of that stuff they're just doing it because they think it pisses off liberals.

What I'm talking about is, they don't believe slaves were better off, but they definitely are racists and want to keep black people down and also don't want to address horrible shit that people like them perpetrated in the past, like slavery. Functionally it doesn't matter if they believe it or not though, as they're still operating as though it does.

Its a cult, and we perpetually see that the higher ups in cults don't believe the bullshit, they push it for control and power.
 
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MrSquished

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I don't agree, he's desperately trying to win now at all cost, because he knows that if they don't get in power and start turning things into a dictatorship, that they will start losing and never be able to win again with their horrible policies.



The problem is, you're at least a decade too late for that to accomplish anything.

However, what you need to do is just start recording them saying this shit. Don't respond, don't react, just pull out your phone and start recording them. See how quickly they STFU.



I disagree. They don't believe the insane shit (we've repeatedly seen this, like the Fox communications), but they know the brainwashed, braindead morons they're exploiting to keep power do or will so they keep with it. There's a few of the more recent fringe morons like the howler monkey women but even they don't believe (although honestly that's because they're simply too stupid to understand much of it either way) a good chunk of that stuff they're just doing it because they think it pisses off liberals.

What I'm talking about is, they don't believe slaves were better off, but they definitely are racists and want to keep black people down and also don't want to address horrible shit that people like them perpetrated in the past, like slavery. Functionally it doesn't matter if they believe it or not though, as they're still operating as though it does.

Its a cult, and we perpetually see that the higher ups in cults don't believe the bullshit, they push it for control and power.


You are wrong. I'm not saying they believe every outrageous claim they make, but they are definitely exactly what they act like. At their core they are racists, bigots, sexists, controlling fascists and they WANT an all white christian male dominated culture and society. So while some claims are to rile people up, at their core, that is who they are. To not understand your enemy at such a basic level is dangerous.
 

manly

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This is your bubble, there are a ton of people that love his social "policy."
He did win reelection by 20 points, even turning Miami-Dade into a red county.

In other news, Ron Death Santis did his own research:

Article is behind the NYT paywall, but can be shared by a subscriber.

While Florida was an early leader in the share of over-65 residents who were vaccinated, it had fallen to the middle of the pack by the end of July 2021. When it came to younger residents, Florida lagged behind the national average in every age group.

That left the state particularly vulnerable when the Delta variant hit that month. Floridians died at a higher rate, adjusted for age, than residents of almost any other state during the Delta wave, according to the Times analysis. With less than 7 percent of the nation’s population, Florida accounted for 14 percent of deaths between the start of July and the end of October.
Of the 23,000 Floridians who died, 9,000 were younger than 65. Despite the governor’s insistence at the time that “our entire vulnerable population has basically been vaccinated,” a vast majority of the 23,000 were either unvaccinated or had not yet completed the two-dose regimen.
The Lincoln Project should spin up his campaign ad: "If I had a national platform, I could have killed as many people as Pres. Trump did!"
 
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brycejones

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He did win reelection by 20 points, even turning Miami-Dade into a red county.

In other news, Ron Death Santis did his own research:

Article is behind the NYT paywall, but can be shared by a subscriber.


The Lincoln Project should spin up his campaign ad: "If I had a national platform, I could have killed as many people as Pres. Trump did!"
Here is a gift link to the article.

 
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allisolm

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Slavery was good for black people and taught them skills.
Being bought and sold like cattle and shipped across the ocean was just a regular day trip.

What the hell? Are we really fucking doing this?


Yeah, silly me, I thought enslaving people was a horrendous time in our nation's history. I didn't realize it was really like attending a vocational school.
 

Lanyap

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Ron DeSantis' 'War on Black'

This term needs to be used heavily in mainstream media. I haven't seen it used much, if at all, and it's so true. Dems need to latch on to this term and use it against Ron 'The Racist" DeSantis.
 

ch33zw1z

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Yeah, silly me, I thought enslaving people was a horrendous time in our nation's history. I didn't realize it was really like attending a vocational school.

I think it was around 2008 when conservatives decided bringing back those "good ole days" was preferable to having a black president.
 
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Lanyap

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Dead eyes DeSantis wants to cut social security for younger people. Alienating all but the part of your base that is rapidly dying off is certainly one strategy. Dude is just trying to lose.




I still don't understand why DeSantis and other Republicans are so fixated on reducing SS and Medicare. I know something needs to be done but there are other better options than what repubs are talking about.
 
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MrSquished

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I still don't understand why DeSantis and other Republicans are so fixated on reducing SS and Medicare. I know something needs to be done but there are other better options than what repubs are talking about.

Because what would have to be done is having the wealthy and corporations pay a fair share of taxes, but that is a non-starter for the GQP, the party of the white wealthy.
 

fskimospy

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I still don't understand why DeSantis and other Republicans are so fixated on reducing SS and Medicare. I know something needs to be done but there are other better options than what repubs are talking about.
Social Security and Medicare can both be funded in perpetuity with small tax increases. It's not nearly as big a deal as people think.

That being said, I hope the GOP continues to campaign on cutting them as that's a hideously unpopular policy platform.
 

Lanyap

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Cue in the backpedaling.
This type of response sounds familiar doesn't it.


"I didn't do it and I wasn't involved in it"

"These are the most robust standards in African American history probably anywhere in the country"

 
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allisolm

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"These are the most robust standards in African American history probably anywhere in the country"


The most robust lies. The most robustly anti-African. The most robust picture of a completely fictitious history.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I still don't understand why DeSantis and other Republicans are so fixated on reducing SS and Medicare. I know something needs to be done but there are other better options than what repubs are talking about.
Because most people are stupid and believe that SS and Medicare are funded thru income taxes. So they push for cuts making people believe that it will help resolve our national debt and make people think they are doing something to help reduce their tax burden. Medicare is partially funded thru income tax, but SS is fully funded thru the SS payroll tax. Making cuts to either won't change people's tax burden.
 

APU_Fusion

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Cue in the backpedaling.
This type of response sounds familiar doesn't it.


"I didn't do it and I wasn't involved in it"

"These are the most robust standards in African American history probably anywhere in the country"

There’s that party of personal responsibility we all know and love. Geee, I wonder why NAACP has travel advisory to Florida.
 

HomerJS

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There’s that party of personal responsibility we all know and love. Geee, I wonder why NAACP has travel advisory to Florida.
Remember when the book on Roberto Clemente was going to be banned? He claimed no responsibility for that too.
 
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HomerJS

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People need to wake up about this creep. This latest thing trying to sugarcoat slavery is just vile. That's nothing new, I remember hearing asshats talk about how "slaves lives were better than they were in Africa, they kept slaves there too!"

Anyone saying slavery is good, just say this to them: "You try it. You'll be flogged if you aren't a good boy but you'll be learning life skills. Your wife and daughters are to be used as the master sees fit, but he probably won't hurt them too much."

Anyone ever saying slavery had positive aspects is an asshole. Treat them accordingly. I fully expect to run into people here (in FL) that might say as much to me, and they are going to get that response, family friends coworkers or whoever. And after that, there will be as little contact as possible.

This shit is IN SCHOOLS or soon will be, this isn't just rhetoric. Wake up.
I've been sounding the alarm on this asshole ever since he started his culture wars against blacks and the LGBTQ. People jumped on his bandwagon early so I started a thread asking people who said they supported him early, WHY? I got no response.
 

Lanyap

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I'm including this link primarily for its title, which kind of says it all!

Rebooting Ron DeSantis Still Leaves You With Ron DeSantis

^^^ Puts me in mind of the unfortunately unproductive combination of pork and beauty products, to wit: You can't put lipstick on a PIG!



Lucky for us his wife is a shitty campaign director.

In February, I wrote how “DeSantis shouldn’t be covered like just another Republican” given the danger he poses to democracy. As governor of Florida, he has been a wildly effective autocrat, installing loyalists in government, using taxpayer dollars for campaign travel, attacking higher education, fostering a climate ripe for book-banning, and shutting out the mainstream media. (He took a brief step outside the conservative bubble last week by appearing on CNN, another sign his struggling campaign is shifting tactics). Trumpism without Trump would be the next logical step toward authoritarianism, and a DeSantis presidency could accomplish any number of far-right initiatives that the 45th president didn’t have the attention span to complete.



 

akugami

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So...is there anything Ron DeSantis is responsible for in the state of Florida?
 
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