Maybe we should have a general Meatball Ron (desantis) thread

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akugami

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I'd gladly pay $50 for a beer to dump on his head. Given his campaign is in the dumps and is hemorrhaging cash, DeSantis might take me up on that.

His fragile ego can't comprehend why the rest of the county despises him. DeSantis truly thought the GOP outside of Florida would just line up to kiss the ring. Watching his downfall on the national scale has been glorious.

I would not pay $50 to have a beer with DeSantis. I'd have to think it over if they gave me $50 to have a beer with him.

I would probably pay to have a beer filled balloon to launch at his head.
 

nakedfrog

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I would not pay $50 to have a beer with DeSantis. I'd have to think it over if they gave me $50 to have a beer with him.

I would probably pay to have a beer filled balloon to launch at his head.
I would take $50 to have a beer with him. I think I could probably make him pretty uncomfortable while staying within the bounds of respectability.
 

Jaskalas

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Retired Conservative Judge Declares American Democracy ‘In Grave Peril’ Because ‘There Is No Republican Party’


To the point I was making of "There is no Republican Party", rather, it is a Cult of Trump.
DeSantis is doomed because he is not their god-king.
There is only one Trump, and he does not share power.

Bush era Republicans lament the loss of the Republican Party.

“There is no Republican Party?” Harlow asked him. Luttig explained by outlining his view that “a political party is a collection, an assemblage of individuals who share a set of beliefs and principles and policy views about the United States of America.”

“Today there is no such shared set of beliefs and values and principles, or even policy views, within the Republican Party for America,” Luttig determined. “Until or unless the Republican Party can pull itself together into a credible Republican political party, we simply don’t have two competing parties in America.”
 
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dainthomas

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Retired Conservative Judge Declares American Democracy ‘In Grave Peril’ Because ‘There Is No Republican Party’


To the point I was making of "There is no Republican Party", rather, it is a Cult of Trump.
DeSantis is doomed because he is not their god-king.
There is only one Trump, and he does not share power.

Bush era Republicans lament the loss of the Republican Party.

Paraphrasing Gandalf when talking to Saruman about Sauron is very appropriate (and awesome).
 

HomerJS

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pcgeek11

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By persecution do you mean his prosecution is unwarranted?


Some are and some aren't. If all were he would be in jail by now.

Like the Steele dossier which was nothing but lies...
 
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fskimospy

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Some are and some aren't. If all were he would be in jail by now.
Definitely not true.

Trump's prosecution is 100% warranted here and he has no one to blame but himself. The cases are easy ones to make and his conviction is highly likely - if anything he's gotten exceptionally lenient treatment. If you or I were indicted for identical offenses we would be in jail this very moment.

The real issue here is the DOJ and the courts are going way too easy on Trump and not treating him like any other defendant. It is the two-tier justice system on display where Trump gets lenient treatment you and I never would.
 

dainthomas

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American Democracy is in peril because there is a Republican party.

Fortunately it's actively trying to self destruct. If it wasn't being propped up by gerrymandering and voter suppression it would already be completely irrelevant.

Ideally it would disappear and the Democratic moderate and left factions would split into their own parties. Then we could focus on improving the country for everyone without all the distractions.
 

APU_Fusion

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Definitely not true.

Trump's prosecution is 100% warranted here and he has no one to blame but himself. The cases are easy ones to make and his conviction is highly likely - if anything he's gotten exceptionally lenient treatment. If you or I were indicted for identical offenses we would be in jail this very moment.

The real issue here is the DOJ and the courts are going way too easy on Trump and not treating him like any other defendant. It is the two-tier justice system on display where Trump gets lenient treatment you and I never would.
Poor pcgeek with his self delusions of bothsideism when he is actually a seaman swallowing Maggat. Trump being persecuted is dumbest thing I have read in quite awhile … at least since I put him and Felix on ignore
 

fskimospy

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The lenient treatment of Hunter Biden just because of his name...
Hunter Biden has gotten HARSHER treatment than if he were just a regular guy.

Regardless, that has no relevance here - the question is if Trump is being 'persecuted' or not. These are charges that would be brought against anyone who did the same crimes as Trump did, and Trump is clearly guilty of at least a large majority of them.
 
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fskimospy

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Did you look at the plea bargain that was offered and refused by the judge?

Do you think you would get that offer for the same crimes?
More likely the charges would never be brought against you or me to begin with. He was only charged because of his last name.
 

fskimospy

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Hunter gets harsher treatment than a normal person and Trump gets more lenient treatment than a normal person yet conservatives are STILL whining about how picked on they are.

It's just an endless complex where conservatives are not happy unless they can imagine themselves as a victim.
 

pcgeek11

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Poor pcgeek with his self delusions of bothsideism when he is actually a seaman swallowing Maggat. Trump being persecuted is dumbest thing I have read in quite awhile … at least since I put him and Felix on ignore


If you have me on ignore than why are you reading my post? Are you a fan?

Why do you have this obsession with swallowing semen (Not Seaman)?

You should at least spell it correctly LOL.
 

pcgeek11

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More likely the charges would never be brought against you or me to begin with. He was only charged because of his last name.

So if you owed that much in taxes the IRS wouldn't go after you or if you lied on a gun registration request they would let you get by with it? I think there are many that have been convicted of these crimes that would disagree with you.

HE was only charged because the DOJ were pushed into it. And then they tried go give him a sweet deal plea bargain. Thank goodness the Judge saw through it.
 
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HomerJS

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Did you look at the plea bargain that was offered and refused by the judge?

Do you think you would get that offer for the same crimes?
Does Hunter Biden get any different treatment then other children of the powerful and connected?
 

fskimospy

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So if you owed that much in taxes the IRS wouldn't go after you or if you lied on a gun registration request they would let you get by with it? I think there are many that have been convicted of these crimes that would disagree with you.
That's the thing, there aren't many people at all as these charges are almost never brought. If you or I did the exact same thing we would almost certainly walk.

So basically the comparison is if regular people did what Hunter did they walk and if regular people did what Trump did they are in prison. That's bad, agree?


1) it's rare for the IRS to prosecute after you've paid what you owe and are a first time offender. Lots of people have owed far more and not been indicted.

2) it is EXCEEDINGLY rare for anyone to get the gun charge Hunter got. Just do a quick common sense check here - how many people who are caught for say drug possession or whatever that have purchased a gun recently are indicted for lying on their firearm forms about drug use? Basically zero. Considering this statute is clearly violated thousands of times per year and yet you don't see mass incarceration for it should tell you how rare it is.

See? Hunter Biden was treated more harshly than you or I. It's really a three tier justice system - easy treatment for Trump, regular treatment for regular people, and harsher treatment for Hunter. Even when conservatives get everything they want they still complain about how they're picked on!

HE was only charged because the DOJ were pushed into it. And then they tried go give him a sweet deal plea bargain. Thank goodness the Judge saw through it.
Actually the reason it was blocked was in large part that the plea bargain was not as lenient as Hunter Biden's lawyers thought it was.


So, armed with these facts are you willing to admit to being wrong?
 
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