Maybe we should have a general Meatball Ron (desantis) thread

[Fanatical Meat]

Did you look at the plea bargain that was offered and refused by the judge?

Do you think you would get that offer for the same crimes?

That’s not what he got and regardless he plead guilty.
The former President would be in a whole lot less shit if he simply handed over the documents by the third request. He’d be in less trouble if he admitted he was wrong in keeping them. He simply is incapable of admitting being wrong and that is his problem not anyone else, his lack of gratitude or being able to admit being wrong is 100% on him and nobody else.
Before you ask no I do not like the precedent that has been set. I really wish he just turned over the stuff promptly when asked.

 

[APU_Fusion]

That's the thing, there aren't many people at all as these charges are almost never brought. If you or I did the exact same thing we would almost certainly walk.

So basically the comparison is if regular people did what Hunter did they walk and if regular people did what Trump did they are in prison. That's bad, agree?

Legal experts say the charges against Hunter Biden are rarely brought

The federal statute making it unlawful for a drug addict to possess a gun faces court challenges. The tax charges central to a now-tossed plea deal also rarely result in jail time.

www.nbcnews.com

1) it's rare for the IRS to prosecute after you've paid what you owe and are a first time offender. Lots of people have owed far more and not been indicted.

2) it is EXCEEDINGLY rare for anyone to get the gun charge Hunter got. Just do a quick common sense check here - how many people who are caught for say drug possession or whatever that have purchased a gun recently are indicted for lying on their firearm forms about drug use? Basically zero. Considering this statute is clearly violated thousands of times per year and yet you don't see mass incarceration for it should tell you how rare it is.

See? Hunter Biden was treated more harshly than you or I. It's really a three tier justice system - easy treatment for Trump, regular treatment for regular people, and harsher treatment for Hunter. Even when conservatives get everything they want they still complain about how they're picked on!


Actually the reason it was blocked was in large part that the plea bargain was not as lenient as Hunter Biden's lawyers thought it was.

New details emerge in Hunter Biden plea agreement

Details in the plea agreement negotiated between attorneys for Hunter Biden and the DOJ shed fresh light on the deal they brokered before a judge rebuffed it Wednesday.

abcnews.go.com

So, armed with these facts are you willing to admit to being wrong?

Of course he won’t admit he’s wrong. He will huff and puff and move the goalposts of facts to another field entirely and proudly plant the new Alt-fact goal post of his feels instead. Trump is being persecuted but Hunter, BEING A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND NEVER HOLDING OFFICE OR EVER WORKED IN GOVERNMENT gets his Dick pick shown on Congress floor and had hours of lies told about him but pcgeek is cool with that because …reasons. he is hilariously addled

 

[brycejones]

NM

 

[brycejones]

Thank goodness the Judge saw through it.

How to say you don't really know what happened at that hearing without saying you don't know what happened at the hearing.

The judge pointed out to Hunter the plea bargain would not preclude future prosecutions for other possible crimes still being investigated by the DoJ and he chose to change his plea to Not Guilty since that was not what he understood the plea bargain to contain. (See it wasn't a sweetheart deal)

Hunter's lawyers and the DoJ worked to restructure the deal and their final product did preclude additional prosecutions but in a way that the Judge felt wasn't aligned with her power under the constitution. THAT is why she rejected it. She did object to the form of the deal not the overall direction of the deal.

She certainly DID NOT reject it because she felt it was a "sweetheart" deal and overly favorable to Hunter.

 

[A///]

We've gone from discussing Biden's son's cock, his cock shown in congress by forget the bitch's name and now discussing sweetheart deals that never existed. can we get back to the pudding cup finger fucker?

 

[pcgeek11]

Does Hunter Biden get any different treatment then other children of the powerful and connected?

It appears so.

 

[pcgeek11]

Of course he won’t admit he’s wrong. He will huff and puff and move the goalposts of facts to another field entirely and proudly plant the new Alt-fact goal post of his feels instead. Trump is being persecuted but Hunter, BEING A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND NEVER HOLDING OFFICE OR EVER WORKED IN GOVERNMENT gets his Dick pick shown on Congress floor and had hours of lies told about him but pcgeek is cool with that because …reasons. he is hilariously addled

Hours of lies. LOL

 

[skyking]

but what about her emails? This has to be the right thread for that.
FFS none of us is going to vote for Hunter ever again.
Pudding Cup Finger Fucker, LOL.

 

[pcgeek11]

That's the thing, there aren't many people at all as these charges are almost never brought. If you or I did the exact same thing we would almost certainly walk.

So basically the comparison is if regular people did what Hunter did they walk and if regular people did what Trump did they are in prison. That's bad, agree?

Legal experts say the charges against Hunter Biden are rarely brought

The federal statute making it unlawful for a drug addict to possess a gun faces court challenges. The tax charges central to a now-tossed plea deal also rarely result in jail time.

www.nbcnews.com

1) it's rare for the IRS to prosecute after you've paid what you owe and are a first time offender. Lots of people have owed far more and not been indicted.

2) it is EXCEEDINGLY rare for anyone to get the gun charge Hunter got. Just do a quick common sense check here - how many people who are caught for say drug possession or whatever that have purchased a gun recently are indicted for lying on their firearm forms about drug use? Basically zero. Considering this statute is clearly violated thousands of times per year and yet you don't see mass incarceration for it should tell you how rare it is.

See? Hunter Biden was treated more harshly than you or I. It's really a three tier justice system - easy treatment for Trump, regular treatment for regular people, and harsher treatment for Hunter. Even when conservatives get everything they want they still complain about how they're picked on!


Actually the reason it was blocked was in large part that the plea bargain was not as lenient as Hunter Biden's lawyers thought it was.

New details emerge in Hunter Biden plea agreement

Details in the plea agreement negotiated between attorneys for Hunter Biden and the DOJ shed fresh light on the deal they brokered before a judge rebuffed it Wednesday.

abcnews.go.com

So, armed with these facts are you willing to admit to being wrong?

Nope. I believe there are some underhanded operations going on with this. Was his income even legal, which puts a whole new spin on it?

Anyone that lies on a federal gun background check need to do some punishment regardless of who his/her father is.

But it doesn't matter what either of us thinks. He will get away with it and it will disappear.

 

[pcgeek11]

He’d be in less trouble if he admitted he was wrong in keeping them. He simply is incapable of admitting being wrong and that is his problem not anyone else, his lack of gratitude or being able to admit being wrong is 100% on him and nobody else.
Before you ask no I do not like the precedent that has been set. I really wish he just turned over the stuff promptly when asked.

I agree 100%

 

[fskimospy]

Nope. I believe there are some underhanded operations going on with this. Was his income even legal, which puts a whole new spin on it?

Anyone that lies on a federal gun background check need to do some punishment regardless of who his/her father is.

But it doesn't matter what either of us thinks. He will get away with it and it will disappear.

Forget what you think the law should be - why do you think Hunter Biden was charged with a crime almost no one else is?

You seem to think he’s getting preferential treatment so doesn’t that seem like a problem with your logic?

 

[fskimospy]

That’s not what he got and regardless he plead guilty.
The former President would be in a whole lot less shit if he simply handed over the documents by the third request. He’d be in less trouble if he admitted he was wrong in keeping them. He simply is incapable of admitting being wrong and that is his problem not anyone else, his lack of gratitude or being able to admit being wrong is 100% on him and nobody else.
Before you ask no I do not like the precedent that has been set. I really wish he just turned over the stuff promptly when asked.

I don’t understand the problem with the precedent - letting political leaders know they can’t be criminals is a good thing.

 

[Jaskalas]

American Democracy is in peril because there is a Republican party.

It is a zealous cult warped around a singular central figure. A Messiah.
It is no longer a standard political party, operating within norms and conventions. They do not seek to rule our institutions, they seek to destroy them.
American Democracy is in FAR GREATER peril because of that change from politics to fanaticism.

From their notion of fake news, to alt facts and realities, to Republicans no longer accepting elections. We are on the cusp of no longer having civil discourse.

 

[A///]

A Messiah.

the day trump keels over and dies they'lll move to the next warm bodied mouth breathing fucking idiot brave enough to speak his or her mind who's also a few chromosomes short.

 

[brycejones]

Poor pcgeek11 can't handle the truth of what happened at Hunter's hearing.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Ron DeSantis vows to start 'slitting throats' on first day of presidency

During a campaign event in New Hampshire, the Florida Republican said he would get tough on "deep state people" if elected.

www.newsweek.com

Ron's pretty far along on the insanity spectrum.

The “slitting throats” is red meat for the MAGA and Q crowd to get attention. Even though the “Deep State” is a figment of MAGA imagination... DeSantis’ adoption of the language of violence regarding federal employees is deliberate and designed to appeal to and inflame. If someone used that language in reference to Desantis in a public way like he does, you don’t think they’d be getting visits from people carrying badges?

Since Regan, a pillar of Republican rhetoric has been to paint federal employees as soulless, inhuman “bureaucrats.” Because it makes their mission of gutting governmental services more popular if they can paint all federal employees as bureaucrats rather than dedicated public servants.

I’m wondering about a near-future where someone says they’re going to post online or in public a statement saying they’ll slit he throats of all politicians / Muslims / Jews and when deplatformed or arrested, demand the same protections that DeSantis and Trump are enjoying. I don’t think it will go well for them, but shows how the double standards and normalization of such behavior keep getting more extreme.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Another elected democrat prosecuter suspended by DeSantis. We saw this one coming. The judge replacing her for now is a conservatice and member of the Federalist Society.

Florida Gov. DeSantis suspends another Democratic prosecutor as he seeks GOP presidential nomination

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Wednesday suspended the top prosecutor in Orlando, again wielding his executive power over local government in taking on a contentious issue in the 2024 presidential race. It's the second time DeSantis, a Republican, has removed a Democratic state attorney and...

www.yahoo.com

DeSantis’s pretext is as bad as what we all know he’s actually doing. He’s "allegedly" removing her because he doesn’t like how she’s using her prosecutorial discretion and then has the nerve to say he’s protecting prosecutorial discretion. State’s attorneys are elected so that the voters of that county or district can decide whether they favor how the incumbent uses her prosecutorial discretion. The remedy for an SA who is “too soft” is enough voters agreeing and voting her out, not one man parachuting in from the state capital and decreeing the result.

The FL constitution gives the governor power to remove corrupt SAs, and a governor who uses that power merely because a prosecutor is “too soft” usurps the voters who should be deciding that. But then “local control for Republican areas, strict state control of Democratic areas” is the order of the day for Fascist Ron and most red state legislatures and governors. The FL judicial branch needs to suspend DeSantis.

 

[NWRMidnight]

I don’t understand the problem with the precedent - letting political leaders know they can’t be criminals is a good thing.

This right here folks! I don't give a damn what party they belong to, I don't care where any of them are on the wealth meter.. Every one of them should be held accountable, more so than us Liddle peasants who vote for them. As our leaders are who set the bar for the rest of us, or at least that is how it should be. People, specially those on the right keep complaining how crime is getting out of control.. Well.. what do you expect when crime, dishonesty, corruption, is the bar being set by the leaders of this country, yet you are okay with it when it's your party doing it?

 

[VRAMdemon]

Trump controls the party. Even if he ends up in jail I wouldn't be surprised if anywhere from 25-50% of conservative votes were write-ins for him on the ballot

Yes .... Trump soured me for even thinking about voting for ANY Republicans. And not just Trump, but the way that the party rallied around him, defended him, sucked up to him, venerated him. And continues to do so. The fact that Ron’s whole candidacy is viewed through a lens of comparing him to Trump is just fucking stupid. Trump has come to embody the Republican Party fully. It’s the Trump party.

DeSantis profile in Florida has been cultivated with careful stage management, keeping his public appearances strictly limited in duration and scope. The people who have spent time in DeSantis’s inner circle and are willing to openly discuss their experience describe him as this strange little goblin like person. What’s hilarious about DeSantis ongoing flameout is that it suggests that Trump’s “policies” of anti-immigrant, anti-woke, and anti-education aren’t actually popular AS policies. Trump’s followers just love watching the show, listening to the man bloviate. DeSantis can preach the same garbage and it doesn’t sell. I love that the DeSantis slogan of “help me fight the wars you don’t want to fight” is less appealing than Trump’s “vote for me so I don’t go to jail”.

 

[Zorba]

Nope. I believe there are some underhanded operations going on with this. Was his income even legal, which puts a whole new spin on it?

Anyone that lies on a federal gun background check need to do some punishment regardless of who his/her father is.

But it doesn't matter what either of us thinks. He will get away with it and it will disappear.

You know how many potheads and opioid users have guns? A whole fucking shit ton. The real problem is we give people a form that says "Are you a Baddie?" "Nope!" "Here's your gun!"

 

[pcgeek11]

You know how many potheads and opioid users have guns? A whole fucking shit ton. The real problem is we give people a form that says "Are you a Baddie?" "Nope!" "Here's your gun!"

And if they lie they should be held accountable for it.

 

[fskimospy]

And if they lie they should be held accountable for it.

But people lie about it every day and AREN’T held accountable. Why is there a multi-tier justice system where Hunter Biden gets charged with crimes almost nobody else does?

I personally am fine if we as a society hold powerful people to a higher standard than regular people but we should at least acknowledge that's what's happening here. Hunter Biden was prosecuted for something almost no one else is, and he was prosecuted because his last name is Biden. It's weird that conservatives have convinced themselves that he's getting a huge break when the reality is exactly the opposite.

 

[brycejones]

And if they lie they should be held accountable for it.

I look forward to millions of gun owners being convicted of a felony for using pot.

 

[fskimospy]

I look forward to millions of gun owners being convicted of a felony for using pot.

If the DOJ held all gun owners to the Hunter Biden standard conservatives would be losing their minds over the police state destroying freedom.

Of course this is pretty standard - they only want laws enforced on other people.

 

[brycejones]

If the DOJ held all gun owners to the Hunter Biden standard conservatives would be losing their minds over the police state destroying freedom.

Of course this is pretty standard - they only want laws enforced on other people.

Of course it's why pcgeek11's simplistic statement is such transparent bull shit.