Maybe we should have a general Meatball Ron (desantis) thread

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I think the bit about toll roads all started from one of the articles/quotes where Desantis suggested adding them as a way of "punishing" Disney for this most recent legal end-around. That's all.
Ronny's got until this November to make his case against the mouse otherwise his focus needs to go 100pc to the race if he announces. I'd count on disney to fund any groups that can pile on shit on him.
 

Zorba

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But do they lead to the main road of Disney? I'm genuinely asking here. If the tolls don't matter why is Desantis straining his already nasally voice trying to screw over the mouse? What do exterior toll roads have to do with Disney if he's pushing up fees. Clearly I'm not seeing something that all these news companies are when they mention toll roads in their articles attacking him.
No they don't connect. I believe he is talking about adding new toll roads.
 
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Zorba

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Grandkids?
Daughter. A super fun and easy vacation with a young kid. Started when she was 6 months. Tapering off now that she is tall enough to do major rides at other parks.

We've also been pretty economical about it, so it isn't that expensive compared to other week long options.
 
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hal2kilo

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There are some fantastic made in USA drones out there. The limitation is they're either made for military or they cost way too much to be sold to civilians forces.
That's something crazy about the military contracting business. When I was with L3 they had all kinds of divisions. One was making displays. They were used on the Tube Interface Boxes (TIBs) on the Tridents by another contractor. Our division had a permanently installed data recording system that had a GUI interface, thus a display, our temporary Test Instrumentation gear for position location, and communicating through water to the Launch Area Support Ship (LASS) also had displays, but we couldn't use our other divisions displays in our system because it cost too much. Crazy stuff.
Back to responding to post, we also had a division that made drones, and we were proposing an alternate way to determine the location of the submarine in the launch array, but we didn't get that contract.
 
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Lanyap

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Dog eat dog, baby. I hope trump wins this one. RonDion and his administration and legislative tug buddies are working on laws to hide his scheduled itinerary, allow him to run for POTUS while keeping his job as gov and prevent anyone from seeing how it's funded. They want everything hidden.

 
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NWRMidnight

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No they don't connect. I believe he is talking about adding new toll roads.
When you say add new toll roads, I suspect you mean he will add tolls to all roads (current and newly built roads that are not on Disney's property) leading to Disney.
 

Zorba

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When you say add new toll roads, I suspect you mean he will add tolls to all roads (current and newly built roads that are not on Disney's property) leading to Disney.
Yeah, that is what I assume he is talking about.
 
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Take this with a grain of salt because I could not verify it and will be busy for a bit, maybe one of you all could do the verification.
I briefly saw something about the Meatball proposing a bill to ban the word “Menstruation” from schools, as in the word is banned nobody can say it.
 

hal2kilo

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Normally, this would seem like political suicide, but when you, gerrymander, and suppress votes anything is possible I guess. Just saw polling last night that 62% of republicans are against this 6 weeks law.


I mean seriously, "watch this, hold my beer" really won't translate well, nationally. Keep making Trump your default choice guys.
 
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nakedfrog

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Take this with a grain of salt because I could not verify it and will be busy for a bit, maybe one of you all could do the verification.
I briefly saw something about the Meatball proposing a bill to ban the word “Menstruation” from schools, as in the word is banned nobody can say it.
That's not exactly what it is, but what it is isn't much better than that.
Notably, it would ban Florida’s public school students from receiving instruction on human sexuality, sexually transmitted diseases and related topics, including menstruation, before 6th grade—despite the fact that puberty and the life-altering changes that come with it start for many children well before then.

“Imagine a little girl in fourth grade, going to the bathroom and finding blood in her panties and thinking that she is dying,” state representative Ashley Gantt, a Democrat, said in a video posted on Instagram.

“She doesn’t actually know what’s going on. And her teacher does not even have the ability to tell her that this is a part of life.”

“So if little girls experience their menstrual cycle in 5th grade or 4th grade, will that prohibit conversations from them since they are in the grade lower than sixth grade?” asked Gantt.

“It would,” McClain responded.

Now, you can say "well, the parents should be talking to her about that" but I can 100% guarantee you that some parents don't/won't (I've talked to women who had this experience), and the child may feel such shame and embarrassment that they won't ask their parents.
 
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Muse

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I think the thread titled nailed it.

"General Meatball"

Right up there with Cap'n Crunch and Count Chocula.
Well, Ole Ron appears to favor eating pudding with his fingers. This bodes ill for his chances...

 

brycejones

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Dropping this here...it's amazing how desperate DeSantis is to put Disney under his thumb. The mouse isn't going to bend the knee.
The problem for DeSantis is he can’t afford politically in the GOP to do anything else. The base could give 2 shits if it’s good policy or bad policy or illegal policy as long as you’re sticking it to someone. That’s what Trump has conditioned them to and anything else is unacceptable.

Trump was usually smart enough to only punch down. DeSantis instead has picked a fight with a company that has vast resources.
 
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ch33zw1z

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The problem for DeSantis is he can’t afford politically in the GOP to do anything else. The base could give 2 shits if it’s good policy or bad policy or illegal policy as long as you’re sticking it to someone. That’s what Trump has conditioned them to and anything else is unacceptable.

Trump was usually smart enough to only punch down. DeSantis instead has picked a fight with a company that has vast resources.

Yep, I’ll add this though. Conservatives have always been onboard with the culture war that gets to stick it to someone, even themselves. Trump just capitalized on it.
 
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Muse

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Yep, I’ll add this though. Conservatives have always been onboard with the culture war that gets to stick it to someone, even themselves. Trump just capitalized on it.
I don't even have a sense of it. Where I live there are certainly conservatives but the region at large is anything but conservative (SF Bay Area, in my case, Berkeley, which prides itself on its progressiveness, often embarrassingly). This is NOT a conservative community, in large part because it's incredibly diverse. Even whites, it seems to me, are a minority. Seems like everybody's a minority!
 
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ch33zw1z

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I don't even have a sense of it. Where I live there are certainly conservatives but the region at large is anything but conservative (SF Bay Area, in my case, Berkeley, which prides itself on its progressiveness, often embarrassingly). This is NOT a conservative community, in large part because it's incredibly diverse. Even whites, it seems to me, are a minority. Seems like everybody's a minority!

If you give a conservative someone to look down on, you don't even have to rob them blind, they'll give you their money. Trump knows this, and this is what he's capitalizing on.
 
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Lanyap

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Dropping this here...it's amazing how desperate DeSantis is to put Disney under his thumb. The mouse isn't going to bend the knee.



More details.

The DeSantis shitshow continues. He can't let it go.

It's rumored that they want to start tracking Minnie Mouse's menstrual cycles to verify she is not a trans woman and do a genitalia verification on Donold Duck to make sure he's not a hermaphrodite.


Earlier today, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis held a press conference to once again discuss his grievances with Walt Disney World and the Walt Disney Company. While the company has yet to respond publicly, Disney has issued an email to media partners, quietly fact-checking the comments made at this afternoon’s press conference.

Taxes and Contributions to the State

At today’s press conference, Governor Ron DeSantis and those that joined him made multiple demands of Disney to pay their “fair share” of taxes. Disney has quietly reminded media outlets that they have, in fact, paid more than $1 billion in state and local taxes making the company the largest single taxpayer in central Florida.

Representatives of Walt Disney World were also quick to remind their media contacts that Disney is the largest single-site employer throughout the entire United States, employing more than 75,000 Cast Members. More than 200 ancillary businesses also operate throughout the Walt Disney World Resort, with a combined total of an additional 16,000 employees.

The company also calls attention to the hundreds of millions of dollars that they’ve contributed to community groups and nonprofits throughout the state of Florida and the 233,000 volunteer hours logged by Cast Members in 2022 alone throughout central Florida.

Land Appraisals

Governor DeSantis also made a claim that Disney appraises its own property to determine its value. The Governor had suggested that most people facing that scenario would significantly undervalue the property to improve their tax situation and indicated that his Central Florida Tourism Oversight Board would be looking into this.

Representatives from the Walt Disney Company have also indirectly responded to these comments, making it clear that Disney does not assess its own property. The company elaborated, stating that “all property in the district, including all Disney property is assessed annually by the Orange County tax assessor or the Osceola County tax assessor, as applicable.”

“The Orange County tax assessor assesses all property in Orange County including Disney, Sea World, and Universal,” Disney reps explained in their e-mail. “In other words, the same government official that assesses Universal and Sea World also assesses Walt Disney World.”

Safety Concerns and Inspections

At the press conference earlier today, DeSantis claimed that Walt Disney World Resort is no longer “above the law,” and would be subject to state inspections of the Monorail and the attractions within the parks.

The Florida Commissioner of Agriculture Wilton Simpson stated: “This legislation will allow my department to conduct inspections when someone is seriously injured on an amusement ride. Thankfully it doesn’t happen that often in Florida, but when it does we have the right to inspect and decide when it can safely reopen.”

While “all major theme parks” were mentioned during this discussion, they did not clarify if these measures would extend to other currently exempted properties, including Universal Orlando Resort or SeaWorld Orlando.

Disney’s response highlights a memorandum of understanding that was enacted decades ago to ensure transparency regarding on-site injuries and governmental reviews of safety procedures.

“In 2001, Walt Disney World, along with other industry leaders, was instrumental in helping lead efforts with the State of Florida to develop a Memorandum of Understanding,” the statement says. “[The memorandum requires] quarterly reporting of any serious guest injuries occurring on amusement rides and immediate reporting of those resulting in fatalities. The MOU also provides for biannual site visits, consultations, and reviews of the safety programs at Florida’s permanent amusement facilities.”

Affordable Housing

Among ideas proposed by DeSantis for unoccupied land within the district, including the development of a state park, competing theme park, or state prison, the Florida Governor had also made reference to the need for affordable housing options within the region. Representatives from Disney have agreed, sharing that the company has already contributed 80 acres of land for an affordable housing complex in Central Florida.

“Walt Disney World has played an active role in building a stronger community for more than 50 years, and we will continue to find and support creative solutions that make a meaningful impact,” Disney representatives shared.

The Walt Disney World Resort provided nearly 80 acres of land in Orange County to The Michaels Organization to build, own and operate an attainable housing development with 1,300 units, offering affordable options for qualifying applicants within certain income levels.  The land is located west of State Road 429, just a few miles away from the Magic Kingdom and near schools and shopping centers, including the Flamingo Crossings Town Center. Concept art was released last year.

Other News From Today’s DeSantis Press Conference

State House District 45 Representative Carolina Amesty also took to the podium to share her opinions and concerns. She greeted the audience with a proclamation to “let it be known, in this great nation, here, in the free state of Florida, it is ‘We the People,’ not ‘woke’ corporations.”

She went on to make the following comment regarding Disney’s leadership and recent business practices:

"We all love Disney; however, you cannot indoctrinate our childrens [sic]. Instead, they have turned Disney into this corporate PR arm of a small group of extremists who want to indoctrinate our children with radical gender ideologies that have no basis in science, common sense, or basic human decency. They have pushed far-left narratives and lies about our great state and now they think that the rules don’t apply to them.

Carolina Amesty"
 

Pens1566

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I'll definitely be interested to see how willing Disney is to ramp up this back and forth.
 

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