Mayor of San Juan: "Help us, we're dying!" Trump: "Such poor leadership"

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Maybe you can explain to us how the number of times the mayor meets with FEMA reps determines the adequacy of the federal response.
I know this probably sounds crazy to you...but one would think that the mayor of San Juan would regularly interact with a key relief agency responsible for helping to save the lives of your city's citizens...no? The FEMA office is only 5 blocks away from her office....or am I expecting too much from her?

https://twitter.com/KFaulders/statu...eral-invites-not-participating-fema-meetings/
 

fskimospy

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I’m sure the people starving in Puerto Rico are. Try grateful for
I know this probably sounds crazy to you...but one would think that the mayor of San Juan would regularly interact with a key relief agency responsible for helping to save the lives of your city's citizens...no? The FEMA office is only 5 blocks away from her office....or am I expecting too much from her?

https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/914115959874572288/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/san-juan-mayor-refused-visit-fema-hq-several-invites-not-participating-fema-meetings/

I have no idea what the circumstances are there but I know for a certainty that I wouldn't believe any White House statements on the matter as sadly it's no longer a credible source. The fact that the White House is releasing statements talking shit about San Juan's mayor in the middle of a humanitarian crisis because she had the temerity to criticize their woefully inadequate response is yet another low in an administration filled with so...so many lows.

Trump should apologize to her, Puerto Rico, and the rest of the country for his failure so far and dedicate himself to improving his performance from here on out. I imagine you agree?
 
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I’m sure the people starving in Puerto Rico are. Try grateful for


I have no idea what the circumstances are there but I know for a certainty that I wouldn't believe any White House statements on the matter as sadly it's no longer a credible source. The fact that the White House is releasing statements talking shit about San Juan's mayor in the middle of a humanitarian crisis because she had the temerity to criticize their woefully inadequate response is yet another low in an administration filled with so...so many lows.

Trump should apologize to her, Puerto Rico, and the rest of the country for his failure so far and dedicate himself to improving his performance from here on out. I imagine you agree?
I'm not talking about Trump...I'm talking about what a complete moron the San Juan mayor is by not regularly interacting with the primary relief agency responsible for aiding her city. I asked you once...and I'll ask again. Is this asking for too much? Or is just bitching and moaning about the all the problems a better solution?
 

fskimospy

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I'm not talking about Trump...I'm talking about what a complete moron the San Juan mayor is by not regularly interacting with the primary relief agency responsible for aiding her city. I asked you once...and I'll ask again. Is this asking for too much? Or is just bitching and moaning about the problems a better solution?

Again, I have no idea what the circumstances of the situation are and I certainly wouldn't trust the White House's claims as to her actions as...well... we all know they lie a lot.

According to the mayor she is interacting with FEMA, just that she's sent staff instead of going there personally. Depending on the circumstances that could be perfectly reasonable, I don't know. What I do know is that this is a pretty transparent attempt to deflect blame away from federal failures and it's embarrassing. Naturally conservative media eats it up, but we all know why that is.
 

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I'm not talking about Trump...I'm talking about what a complete moron the San Juan mayor is by not regularly interacting with the primary relief agency responsible for aiding her city. I asked you once...and I'll ask again. Is this asking for too much? Or is just bitching and moaning about the all the problems a better solution?

LOL, keep carrying that water.
 
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Again, I have no idea what the circumstances of the situation are and I certainly wouldn't trust the White House's claims as to her actions as...well... we all know they lie a lot.

According to the mayor she is interacting with FEMA, just that she's sent staff instead of going there personally. Depending on the circumstances that could be perfectly reasonable, I don't know. What I do know is that this is a pretty transparent attempt to deflect blame away from federal failures and it's embarrassing. Naturally conservative media eats it up, but we all know why that is.
Then FEMA and Guaynabo’s mayor Angel Perez must be lying as well. Got it.
 

fskimospy

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Then FEMA and Guaynabo’s mayor Angel Perez must be lying as well. Got it.

Why are you so furiously deflecting? This is a transparent attempt from the administration to deflect blame away from their piss-poor response. Do you agree that their response has been horrible, right? You don't deny that this White House is exceptionally dishonest even by political standards, do you?
 
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Why are you so furiously deflecting? This is a transparent attempt from the administration to deflect blame away from their piss-poor response. Do you agree that their response has been horrible, right? You don't deny that this White House is exceptionally dishonest even by political standards, do you?
You're the one who's deflecting here. Multiple people from FEMA and even a mayor in a neighboring city corroborate Cruz's lack of participation in FEMA relief efforts.
 
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fskimospy

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You're the one who's deflecting here. Multiple people from FEMA and even a mayor in a neighboring city corroborate Cruz's lack of participation in FEMA relief efforts.

It is simply amazing that you can't bring yourself to admit the federal government fucked up here. I guess that's what happens when someone consumes as much conservative media as you clearly do.
 

Puffnstuff

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I'm quite certain that all parties could've performed better in this incident but hindsight is 20/20. PR lost access to its ports which caused further delays not to mention a lack of workers to move materials and supplies. Hopefully everyone has learned from this experience and will use it to make the necessary changes to prevent a future repeat.
 
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It is simply amazing that you can't bring yourself to admit the federal government fucked up here. I guess that's what happens when someone consumes as much conservative media as you clearly do.
Federal response has nothing to do with my point. I was commenting on the San Juan mayor and her apparent lack of meaningful interaction with the primary relief organization who's responsible for aiding her city. As usual you want to twist everything I say to fit into your narrative. So sad.
 

fskimospy

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Federal response has nothing to do with my point. I was commenting on the San Juan mayor and her apparent lack of meaningful interaction with the primary relief organization who's responsible for aiding her city. As usual you want to twist everything I say to fit into your narrative. So sad.

So you ARE admitting that the federal government fucked up badly here? Just answer yes or no.
 

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Federal response has nothing to do with my point. I was commenting on the San Juan mayor and her apparent lack of meaningful interaction with the primary relief organization who's responsible for aiding her city. As usual you want to twist everything I say to fit into your narrative. So sad.

Something ain't right with you. Have you seen the pictures of Puerto Rico? That place is devastated. I don't care what she is saying, do you think now is the best time for the Trump adminstation to be attacking the mayor of a devastated city?

The federal response should have been mobilized and waiting to deliver needed aid right after the hurricane. Honestly, the reason we have such trash in the white house is people like you, so willing to carry their water. Be proud of yourself!
 

Puffnstuff

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The person you are saying is providing FEMA's perspective without the 'political crap' is literally a political appointee of Donald Trump.
Here are some facts around FEMA's leadership and surprisingly enough they aren't the typical appointees.
https://www.fema.gov/leadership
Excerpt:
William B. “Brock” Long
was confirmed by the U.S. Senate and began his service as the Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) in June 2017. Mr. Long has more than 16 years of experience assisting and supporting local, state, and Federal Governments with building robust emergency management and public health preparedness programs.

Since 2011, he has worked as Executive Vice President at Hagerty Consulting, where he provided strategic direction and leadership to the firm’s full complement of emergency management programs and professionals. Mr. Long has served as Project Executive for more than 50 projects in all parts of the United States, ranging from complex attack scenario exercises to designing multi-jurisdictional, all-hazard evacuation plans for major Urban Area Security Initiative designated jurisdictions.

From 2008-2011, Mr. Long served as Director of Alabama’s Emergency Management Agency (AEMA) under Governor Bob Riley. As Director, he served as the State Coordinating Officer for 14 disasters, including eight presidentially-declared events. Mr. Long also served as an on-scene State Incident Commander for the Alabama Unified Command during the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

Prior to his position as Director at AEMA, Mr. Long was a FEMA Regional Hurricane Program Manager, FEMA Hurricane and Evacuation Liaison Team Leader, and statewide school safety coordinator for the Georgia Emergency Management Agency. His areas of expertise include strategic emergency operations planning, exercise, evacuation, school safety, recovery management, and response logistics.

Mr. Long also served as the private sector chairman for the National Emergency Management Association (NEMA), and as a board member of the Central United States Earthquake Consortium.

He is a graduate of the prestigious Executive Leadership Program offered by the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School/Center for Homeland Defense and Security, as well as Appalachian State University for undergraduate and graduate school.

Dr. Daniel Kaniewski was unanimously confirmed by the Senate as the Deputy Administrator for Protection and National Preparedness (PNP) on September 14, 2017. In this role, he coordinates preparedness and protection-related initiatives within FEMA and across the whole community, overseeing grants, planning, technical assistance, training, exercises, individual and community preparedness, assessments, and continuous improvement.

Prior to serving as the Deputy Administrator for PNP, Dr. Kaniewski was Vice President for Global Resilience at AIR Worldwide, a catastrophe risk modeling and consulting services firm. He was also a Senior Fellow at the Center for Cyber & Homeland Security, where he contributed thought leadership on homeland security and emergency management topics.

Earlier, Dr. Kaniewski served as the Mission Area Director for Resilience and Emergency Preparedness/Response at a federally funded research and development center supporting the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

Dr. Kaniewski was also Vice President for Homeland Security and Deputy Director of the Homeland Security Policy Institute at the George Washington University. In the George W. Bush Administration, he served as Special Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and as Senior Director for Response Policy. Dr. Kaniewski has also held positions at FEMA, the Congressional Fire Services Institute, and on Capitol Hill. He was previously a member of the District of Columbia Homeland Security Commission and a term member at the Council on Foreign Relations.

Dr. Kaniewski holds a Bachelor of Science degree in Emergency Medical Services from George Washington University, a Master of Arts degree in National Security Studies from the Georgetown University School of Foreign Service, and a Ph.D. in Public Policy and Administration from George Washington University.

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Dumbest thing you have ever said. I can't believe you would even ask that.

Is it really necessary for her to do so personally or is it important for the Mayor's office to do so?

If you think that's really necessary then you must think it's important for Trump to act in a similar way even though he's obviously not... He's probably teeing up somewhere as I type...
 
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Something ain't right with you. Have you seen the pictures of Puerto Rico? That place is devastated. I don't care what she is saying, do you think now is the best time for the Trump adminstation to be attacking the mayor of a devastated city?
My comment was in no way related to Trump, the devastation of the island, or the quality of the relief response. It was directed specifically to the mayor of San Juan and her lack of direct involvement interfacing with FEMA relief efforts. If you think otherwise..."something ain't right with you".

The federal response should have been mobilized and waiting to deliver needed aid right after the hurricane. Honestly, the reason we have such trash in the white house is people like you, so willing to carry their water. Be proud of yourself!
You have an opinion...and an ill-informed one it seems to me. That said, I'll consider the source and take your repeated insults and condescension as an indication of your inability (or lack of will) to engage in honest and respectful discourse. You once told me you were relatively well educated....frankly, I'm not seeing it.
 

fskimospy

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My comment was in no way related to Trump, the devastation of the island, or the quality of the relief response. It was directed specifically to the mayor of San Juan and her lack of direct involvement interfacing with FEMA relief efforts. If you think otherwise..."something ain't right with you".

You have an opinion...and an ill-informed one it seems to me. That said, I'll consider the source and take your repeated insults and condescension as an indication of your inability (or lack of will) to engage in honest and respectful discourse. You once told me you were relatively well educated....frankly, I'm not seeing it.

The guy who constantly insults people thinks insults are a sign of inability or unwillingness to engage in honest and respectful discourse.

lol.
 

Puffnstuff

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My comment was in no way related to Trump, the devastation of the island, or the quality of the relief response. It was directed specifically to the mayor of San Juan and her lack of direct involvement interfacing with FEMA relief efforts. If you think otherwise..."something ain't right with you".
What Trump did to her through the press and social media defies logic and the boundaries for professional leadership which only served to widen the divide between his administration and the people of PR. This situation should be cause for a complete overhaul of the emergency preparedness system in PR and their infrastructure needs must be properly addressed to prevent a recurrence.
 
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Here are some facts around FEMA's leadership and surprisingly enough they aren't the typical appointees.
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Various FEMA people are apparently conspiring with Guaynabo mayor Angel Perez and ABC News reporter Katherine Flaulders as well. But that said...the story's veracity was not based on one unnamed source making serious allegations ala NYT...so it must not be true or at least must be viewed with a rather jaundiced eye. lol
 
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