Mayor of San Juan: "Help us, we're dying!" Trump: "Such poor leadership"

[J.Wilkins]

Wtf... From what I can tell. You put equated a on going shit storm in a foreign country with non Americans with a natural disaster with Americans on American soil...

Seriously. When you look at the sky do you see unicorns?

When dear leader fucks up all that is left is a diversion to Hillary or Bill and if that is not available it is, as always, Obama's fault.

 

[J.Wilkins]

It's not just politics, and it damn well matters more than you're claiming. There are about 3.5 million American citizens going without clean water, without electricity, without large chunks of the infrastructure that you take for granted... and even when they get the basics back, their economy will still be in tatters. That the President is turning this massive human tragedy into an "omg fake news Democrats #MAGA" moment by attacking San Juan's mayor and the Puerto Ricans themselves isn't just "politics," it's despicable -- it's an embarrassment to the entire country. Do you want that in a leader?

My point is simple: you've been trying everything in your power to avoid condemning Trump. It's funny to watch, actually. The more and more you're confronted with the inescapable truth, that you must denounce Trump and admit he's not fit to lead, the harder you fight back. Diversion, distraction, anything but saying "no President should ever behave this way." I'm glad you've finally said it was unacceptable, but why was it so incredibly hard for you to acknowledge this reality?

Yeah but their mayor did not bow at the feet of Dear Leader so fuck them.

 

[HomerJS]

Yeah but their mayor did not bow at the feet of Dear Leader so fuck them.

The mayor is closest to the devastation and she is crying out for more help. She doesn't have time or the desire to kiss Trump ass. People like the Gov of PR know Trump ass kissing is required for help so he's doing it.

 

[J.Wilkins]

The mayor is closest to the devastation and she is crying out for more help. She doesn't have time or the desire to kiss Trump ass. People like the Gov of PR know Trump ass kissing is required for help so he's doing it.

Without loyalty you can't have EIN VOLK, EIN REICH und EIN FÜHRER.

Get with the program, loyalty to dear leader is all that matters.

 

[mizzou]

I saw the mayor wearing that shirt and...pretty sure she's not one of those who works well under pressure. If instilling a panic is her job then I guess she's the person to do it. It doesn't matter if things aren't going amazing...she needs to be a leader.

From a historic perspective, responding to an island that was demolished by hurricanes is going to be pretty difficult. Even when things are going great, traveling in and out of a port can be tricky business. Sending 100,000,000 ships filled with cargo containers and no place to put them will just add to the disaster.

I can't remember specifically, but in Katrina part of the problem were people responding to help that had no plan. People sometimes have to be turned back because they are becoming the cluster to the %#@!

 

[JSt0rm]

Given that you have said on numerous occasions that you are not an American I wonder how the hell you managed to vote Democrat in the elections?

lol. Of course.

 

[J.Wilkins]

I saw the mayor wearing that shirt and...pretty sure she's not one of those who works well under pressure. If instilling a panic is her job then I guess she's the person to do it. It doesn't matter if things aren't going amazing...she needs to be a leader.

From a historic perspective, responding to an island that was demolished by hurricanes is going to be pretty difficult. Even when things are going great, traveling in and out of a port can be tricky business. Sending 100,000,000 ships filled with cargo containers and no place to put them will just add to the disaster.

I can't remember specifically, but in Katrina part of the problem were people responding to help that had no plan. People sometimes have to be turned back because they are becoming the cluster to the %#@!

I'm sorry but these utter stupidity cannot go unchallenged. You don't need roads to provide aid, you can do that via helicopters and it's been done for at least 60 years in war zones where there was an actual risk the choppers would be shut down so why wouldn't it work here?

There is absolutely no will to help or it would already be done.

 

[HomerJS]

I saw the mayor wearing that shirt and...pretty sure she's not one of those who works well under pressure. If instilling a panic is her job then I guess she's the person to do it. It doesn't matter if things aren't going amazing...she needs to be a leader.

From a historic perspective, responding to an island that was demolished by hurricanes is going to be pretty difficult. Even when things are going great, traveling in and out of a port can be tricky business. Sending 100,000,000 ships filled with cargo containers and no place to put them will just add to the disaster.

I can't remember specifically, but in Katrina part of the problem were people responding to help that had no plan. People sometimes have to be turned back because they are becoming the cluster to the %#@!

Being a leader means telling the truth. Something Trump doesn't understand. This is what you get with someone who lacks empathy

 

[Sonikku]

This could be one of the moments that costs Trump and the Republicans big time, hopefully in 2018 but definitely in 2020.

All a Democrat has to do is remind people that Trump was launching personal attacks from his private golf course against the Major of San Juan for... asking for help during a major catastrophe. Instead of being a President and stepping up to the plate, he's making excuses and running away.

You're looking at it through a liberal lens. In reality I don't think "fiscal conservatives" would ever hold him accountable.

 

[HomerJS]

So let's break the tie between Trump and the Mayor of SJ...
'Not enough' troops, equipment in Puerto Rico, says general in charge of relief

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/3...-puerto-rico-says-general-in-charge-of-relief

 

[mizzou]

Being a leader means telling the truth. Something Trump doesn't understand. This is what you get with someone who lacks empathy

I guess I've been numb to Trump's constant lying and exaggerations and just don't pay attention to them anymore. When he says "It's going so smooth, i'ts the best news story ever", I don't actually give it a moment of thought that it is actually smooth or a good news story. Everyone knows the feds are slow to respond and slow to organize.

This mayor though, so disappointing. God I wish Trump didn't always go for the low-hanging fruit. His thin skin is so embarrassing. Who care's what she says, just do your job and shut up! Of course..more tweets, more personal attacks, more how yours is the biggest and the bestest.

I wonder if there were any English mayors when they were getting literally (and I mean that in it's actual form) bombed by Nazi's with missiles, who acted with any less composure. I should probably watch more of the video's before passing judgment, but what I've read from the quotes it's clear she is not able to handle the stress and should think twice about managing and leading a city.

Some mayors positions are purely ceremonial. I wonder if she even has any real direction in the effort.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

I'm sorry but these utter stupidity cannot go unchallenged. You don't need roads to provide aid, you can do that via helicopters and it's been done for at least 60 years in war zones where there was an actual risk the choppers would be shut down so why wouldn't it work here?

There is absolutely no will to help or it would already be done.

This. Like 100 times this. At the very least they could be air dropping drinking water, emergency rations, and gas for cooking and generators. Of course that's no longer your run of the mill FEMA operation and probably needs military coordination to achieve. The CIC seems to have no will to mobilize the military to get aide there ASAP.

You're looking at it through a liberal lens. In reality I don't think "fiscal conservatives" would ever hold him accountable.

While true, he's making an enemy of brown people at an alarming rate right now. If the 2008 presidential election taught us anything, it's that if you can get the under 30 crowd and the minority crowd out to the polls the GOP hardly stands a chance.

Texas comes to mind as a potential battleground state depending on how Trump and the GOP play out the next 3 years. Demographically it should be a purple state, a mix of gerrymandering and young apathetic voters has allowed it to remain a red state, but that could go up in flames if Trump decides to declare war on brown people for the next 3 years.

 

[Mai72]

This. Like 100 times this. At the very least they could be air dropping drinking water, emergency rations, and gas for cooking and generators. Of course that's no longer your run of the mill FEMA operation and probably needs military coordination to achieve. The CIC seems to have no will to mobilize the military to get aide there ASAP.



While true, he's making an enemy of brown people at an alarming rate right now. If the 2008 presidential election taught us anything, it's that if you can get the under 30 crowd and the minority crowd out to the polls the GOP hardly stands a chance.

Texas comes to mind as a potential battleground state depending on how Trump and the GOP play out the next 3 years. Demographically it should be a purple state, a mix of gerrymandering and young apathetic voters has allowed it to remain a red state, but that could go up in flames if Trump decides to declare war on brown people for the next 3 years.

Hopefully, people don't forget.

Trump has made son many enemies in such a short time that due to his HUGE ego he is systematically destroying the Republican party. That is what they should be worried about. America is changing regardless of what Trump says or does in the near future. He will eventually be out of office, and America will continue to diversify. Hopefully, we don't forget and we punish the Republican party.

 

[justoh]

My point is simple: you've been trying everything in your power to avoid condemning Trump. It's funny to watch, actually. The more and more you're confronted with the inescapable truth, that you must denounce Trump and admit he's not fit to lead, the harder you fight back. Diversion, distraction, anything but saying "no President should ever behave this way." I'm glad you've finally said it was unacceptable, but why was it so incredibly hard for you to acknowledge this reality?

Condemnation of Trump is the easiest thing in the world, pointless, and very, very boring. Almost everyone gets almost everything wrong here, almost all the time. I realized this long ago, shortly after joining, with the woman ironically protesting abortion thread, but few places permit insults, expressions of contempt, and mockery, so occasionally I come back. It's not the same thing as trolling, since I also usually make a sincere point or two. Often I'm just responding in kind. I don't employ any pathos in my arguments because I don't care about being persuasive, just the truth. Anyway, you're just wrong, as usual.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I know this forum is full of liberals , but this is overblown. The mayor is going on about genocide and 16 people died. Genocide is when your communist friends kill 20 million of their own people (aka Stalin) or 40-60 million (aka Mao). 16 isn't even Mexican earthquake territory.

Tell it to this guy who probably knows just a bit more about this type of situation than you.

"When asked for his reaction to President Trump's tweets, Russel Honoré, the retired general appointed by Bush to take over the federal response to Katrina in 2005, said he had none.

"I have no reaction. The mayor's living on a cot, and I hope the President has a good day of golf," he told CNN.

Earlier this week, Honoré told CNN that the President's response to Maria shows that he doesn't care about the poor or people of color.

"The President has shown again he don't give a damn about poor people," Honoré told CNN's Erin Burnett. "He doesn't give a damn about people of color. And SOB that rides around in Air Force One is denying services needed by the people of Puerto Rico. I hate to say it that way but there's no other way to say it."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/30/politics/trump-tweets-puerto-rico-mayor/index.html

 

[justoh]

Given that you have said on numerous occasions that you are not an American I wonder how the hell you managed to vote Democrat in the elections?

I don't think I've ever made such a claim. In fact on several occasions I've referenced my naturalization.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Reminds me of the time Hillary persuaded Bill to ignore Bosnia, because she felt it would interfere with her health care proposal, or serve as a distraction.



http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2008/03/the_tall_tale_of_tuzla.html

But they aren't even Americans, as you point out, so who cares, right?

What is it with folks that continually defend someone who does something bad by pointing out that someone else also did something bad at some point in time. Are you truly that stupid? I guess given that you are only here as a troll you probably are but damn bunky, it's really fucking dumb. <shrug>

 

[Thebobo]

I know this forum is full of liberals , but this is overblown. The mayor is going on about genocide and 16 people died. Genocide is when your communist friends kill 20 million of their own people (aka Stalin) or 40-60 million (aka Mao). 16 isn't even Mexican earthquake territory.

Go away and let us rage!

Nevertheless trump is an asshole and should just shut up. That shit is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo beneath the President of our country.

 

[dainthomas]

This pretty much speaks for itself. Just when you think POTUS has hit rock bottom, he somehow finds a way to lower the bar.

Imagine if he'd said Florida and Texas should use their bootstraps and their leadership sucked.

 

[Pens1566]

And he tweets this while playing golf at his resort on our dime.

 

[dank69]

This could be one of the moments that costs Trump and the Republicans big time, hopefully in 2018 but definitely in 2020.

All a Democrat has to do is remind people that Trump was launching personal attacks from his private golf course against the Major of San Juan for... asking for help during a major catastrophe. Instead of being a President and stepping up to the plate, he's making excuses and running away.

Haha look how naive you are. Trump's behavior pales in comparison to the average liberal.

 

[UNCjigga]

Haha look how naive you are. Trump's behavior pales in comparison to the average liberal.

So much this. To Trump voters, this kind of behavior has nothing on your average baby killing, sodomizing liberal.

 

[sdifox]

What does Hillary have to do with Trump's actions on Puerto Rico?

Cuz Hillary lost and put Trump in this position duh.

 

[justoh]

What is it with folks that continually defend someone who does something bad by pointing out that someone else also did something bad at some point in time. Are you truly that stupid? I guess given that you are only here as a troll you probably are but damn bunky, it's really fucking dumb. <shrug>

Wait. I know the answer to this one. Is it... nice strawman?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Wait. I know the answer to this one. Is it... nice strawman?

Cool. I bet you have a great hat.