Mayweather v. Mosley

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TwinsenTacquito

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So how is MW going to pussy out now? Gonna take on somebody else that isn't a top contender and promote the fight like it's the fight of the century?
 

Miramonti

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So how is MW going to pussy out now? Gonna take on somebody else that isn't a top contender and promote the fight like it's the fight of the century?

Who do you think he should fight if Pac is still too cowardly to do olympic style testing for doping?
 

Fingolfin269

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So how is MW going to pussy out now? Gonna take on somebody else that isn't a top contender and promote the fight like it's the fight of the century?

I'm sure he'll fight Pac if he would agree to the testing. But we know he won't so keep on crying.
 

SP33Demon

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Pacman agreed to blood testing a week before and directly AFTER the fight. He would not do random testing up to the fight because it means they could take blood at any time and he felt that a week before and directly after the fight was already enough. If you know anything about PED's you would know that it's not physically possible to hide something 7 days before and directly after a fight. Mayweather is using the random drug testing to duck and dodge Pacman yet again because he's a pussy and doesn't want to risk his legacy.

Mayweather should be kissing Manny's ass for a chance to fight him because Manny is a bigger star now, just compare ratings for Pacquiao/Clottey vs Mosley/Mayweather. Pacman has already taken Mayweather's "best pound for pound fighter in the world" nickname. Nobody gives a dam about Mayweather until he mans up and fights Pacman and only then can he remove all doubt and earn the right to say he is the "greatest of all time" (assuming he wins).
 

Miramonti

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Pacman agreed to blood testing a week before and directly AFTER the fight. He would not do random testing up to the fight because it means they could take blood at any time and he felt that a week before and directly after the fight was already enough. If you know anything about PED's you would know that it's not physically possible to hide something 7 days before and directly after a fight. Mayweather is using the random drug testing to duck and dodge Pacman yet again because he's a pussy and doesn't want to risk his legacy.

Mayweather should be kissing Manny's ass for a chance to fight him because Manny is a bigger star now, just compare ratings for Pacquiao/Clottey vs Mosley/Mayweather. Pacman has already taken Mayweather's "best pound for pound fighter in the world" nickname. Nobody gives a dam about Mayweather until he mans up and fights Pacman and only then can he remove all doubt and earn the right to say he is the "greatest of all time" (assuming he wins).

Are you suggesting olympic style testing is ridiculous and should be revamped, and/or isn't fair to athletes? I don't hear too many olympians complaining about it.
 

SP33Demon

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Are you suggesting olympic style testing is ridiculous and should be revamped, and/or isn't fair to athletes? I don't hear too many olympians complaining about it.

Well I agree that they should just both agree to the stupid tests and be done with it. Pacman views it as a disadvantage to have blood drawn too close before the fight which is his prerogative; he's never failed a drug test before nor been accused of cheating. And actually the original cutoff that Pac's camp agreed to was 24 days before the fight and right after which should still be fine. Freddie Roach (his coach) had verbally said a week but not sure why they didn't just do that.

Technically you *could* take PED's 24 days before a fight but it would still most likely be in a fighter's system after the fight. Unless they plan on taking them up to a week or so before the fight to improve training which I doubt would make that much of a difference. If someone's using them for a solid couple of months (like minor league baseball players) that's where you'd see a huge spike. But of course it's all speculation.
 

Miramonti

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Well I agree that they should just both agree to the stupid tests and be done with it. Pacman views it as a disadvantage to have blood drawn too close before the fight which is his prerogative; he's never failed a drug test before nor been accused of cheating. And actually the original cutoff that Pac's camp agreed to was 24 days before the fight and right after which should still be fine. Freddie Roach (his coach) had verbally said a week but not sure why they didn't just do that.

Technically you *could* take PED's 24 days before a fight but it would still most likely be in a fighter's system after the fight. Unless they plan on taking them up to a week or so before the fight to improve training which I doubt would make that much of a difference. If someone's using them for a solid couple of months (like minor league baseball players) that's where you'd see a huge spike. But of course it's all speculation.

Pac softening his stance?

I am willing to help the sport for the future of the sport. I do not want to see anyone cheat or cheat this sport. For that reason I am willing to consider taking blood [tests] as close as 14 days prior to the fight, as long as my opponent does the same, and it is not a lot of blood, just enough to test," Pacquiao is quoted as saying on his official website.

Mayweather has no issue undergoing the same kind of testing as his opponent.

During the previous negotiation, Pacquiao had insisted on a cut off of blood testing 30 days before the fight and eventually moved to 24 days when it came to light that he had taken a blood test during that time frame before his second-round knockout of Ricky Hatton in May 2009.

I couldn't find the exact rules of how soon before a competition a blood test could be taken using the World Anti-Doping Code, but it sounds like Pac is still trying to double-speak and make his up his own parameters. Either he will accept the testing standard, or he really doesn't want to make sure boxing is as clean as he says he does.
 

BRObedoza

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Mayweather proposed a 14 day window during initial negotiations and pacquiao refused. now that Pacquiao accepted i'm betting Mayweather is going to insist on testing up until the fight. i don't think it's pacquiao making up his own parameters. his camp has said they would do whatever the commission asks them to do. it's mayweather making up the rules as he goes along. pretty smart of him though. he's controlling the fight before it even happens.
 

dennilfloss

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Why not just have both fighters give the same amount of blood on the same days so that neither is at an advantage over the other? Sounds simple enough to implement. The way Pac seems to tire less than his opponent and keep his punching speed hints more at blood doping than steroids.
 

Miramonti

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Mayweather proposed a 14 day window during initial negotiations and pacquiao refused. now that Pacquiao accepted i'm betting Mayweather is going to insist on testing up until the fight. i don't think it's pacquiao making up his own parameters. his camp has said they would do whatever the commission asks them to do. it's mayweather making up the rules as he goes along. pretty smart of him though. he's controlling the fight before it even happens.

uhmm....exactly. The commission isn't interested in real anti-doping programs.
 

SP33Demon

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Why not just have both fighters give the same amount of blood on the same days so that neither is at an advantage over the other? Sounds simple enough to implement. The way Pac seems to tire less than his opponent and keep his punching speed hints more at blood doping than steroids.

Because Mayweather wants random, not planned blood tests. Pacquiao is all for giving blood anywhere from 24-14 days.

Someone mentioned blood doping, but remember they are tested after the fight. That will easily be discovered.
 
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