McCain 2008?

[jlmadyson]

"Thinking ahead to the next presidential election, if the 2008 presidential election were held today and the candidates were Democrat [see below] and Republican [see below], for whom would you vote?"


2008

 

[conjur]

<yawn>

McCain's not going to run.

Powell's not going to run.

Hillary's not going to run.



Get over it people.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: conjur
<yawn>

McCain's not going to run.

Powell's not going to run.

Hillary's not going to run.



Get over it people.

Of the 3, I'd say Powell is a sure bet to not run.

McCain &amp; Clinton I'm not so sure about...

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: conjur
<yawn>

McCain's not going to run.

Powell's not going to run.

Hillary's not going to run.



Get over it people.

Ah you got the inside edge hey? lol

Who else we got Giulliani, Kerry, Frist?

 

[conjur]

McCain has said he's not going to run.

Powell is finished with politics. That much can be certain.

Hillary is very doubtful to run. I don't think the DNC/DLC will prefer her to run.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: conjur
McCain has said he's not going to run.

Powell is finished with politics. That much can be certain.

Hillary is very doubtful to run. I don't think the DNC/DLC will prefer her to run.

Actually I listened to a very recent interview with McCain, and he never answered the question "no", but stated that he was going to focus on the current work to be done. The way it sounded he was basically leaving his options open.

 

[conjur]

I've seen in multiple interviews during this campaign about whether he'd either join Bush on the ticket or consider running in 2008, no was the answer to both.

 

[jlmadyson]

You got to love those Hilary numbers. She would fall harder than Kerry.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
You got to love those Hilary numbers. She would fall harder than Kerry.

She wouldn't even make it out of the primaries.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
You got to love those Hilary numbers. She would fall harder than Kerry.

She wouldn't even make it out of the primaries.

Today.. she wouldn't.. but in '08 I think she'll be the front runner. I can't think of another candidate the left has on my radar that has any appeal at all. She can run as a right of middle and still get all the left votes. Remember she is the only one on the left (as I remember) who supported Bush's effort in Iraq in press conferences. She is a woman and in '08 I think that will make a huge difference.

I don't see anybody on the Right either so maybe someone will pop up outta both camps.. but Hillary is gonna get the DNC nod... IMO

 

[namike]

I think McCain will run or be a VP ticket. He toured with the President multiple times for this past campaign, and has aligned himself more so with the conservative republican side, but yet also stayed somewhat in the moderate angle too.

I don't think it was a coincidence McCain touring with Bush, now Bush as a Lame Duck will have no problem supporting McCain if indeed he does run. It just looks like thats how it is all shaping up to me.

Both Hilary and McCain said they won't run.....to keep attention away from them during this past election. Powell would have needed to stay Secretary of State to keep himself heavily involved in politics, 4 years from now he won't be the same "figure" he is now.

It's going to be a combo of either Frist, McCain, Guoliani, or Bush (Jeb). Those in my opinion are the strongest Republican's at this point. Don't laugh, but Arnold is also trying to push for the allowance of Foreigners to run, under high high qualifications.....4 years time, you never know......that pat of the constitution could be changed. I personally would go for it, as long as the requriements were strong and made it nearly equal to a Lifer of the United States.

So.....on the extreme end.......McCain / Schwarzenegger in 08'......would be crazy, and kinda funny.....but not impossible................i think they would smack down any Candidate from the DNC. Even if Hilary was running with that new famous black guy senator Obama(not being racist) He looks to have alot of support from democrats.

McCain / Schwarzenegger vs. Hilary / Obama

Looks like a great celebrity death match to me.

 

[Sassy]

Am I the only one that likes John Edwards? Do you think he will run? What's your opinion on Edwards?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: kissnup
Am I the only one that likes John Edwards? Do you think he will run? What's your opinion on Edwards?

He's not qualified.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

As long as the far right are controlling the Republican party you'll never see the likes of McCain or Giulianni I believe. They would probably go with a guy like Frist if anything. As for the left, who really knows at this point, to early to call.

 

[namike]

I agree he's not qualified. And he's a Loser now. Lieberman didn't even come close to anything. Lieberman may have not been libral enough for the DNC, but still. Al Gore and Lieberman are no-bodies now.

John Kerry will always be remembered now as "the guy who lost to Bush" and Edwards is right there in the running. I think Edwards should have never taken the VP ticket with Kerry. At least his political career would not have been so damaged as it is now, not that he can't come back.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson

Originally posted by: conjur
<yawn>

McCain's not going to run.

Powell's not going to run.

Hillary's not going to run.



Get over it people.

Ah you got the inside edge hey? lol

Who else we got Giulliani, Kerry, Frist?

These things tend to play themselves out a lot closer to the election. Let's be honest. I didn't know or care who Kerry was until the campaign.

 

[dahunan]

McCain is a freaking coward.. he stayed with the Repubs after they ran a lie and smear campaign against HIM, HIS WIFE and plenty of other shiat... Fvck Politicians.

 

[OptimisTech]

Originally posted by: kissnup
Am I the only one that likes John Edwards? Do you think he will run? What's your opinion on Edwards?

I like JE a lot, but I don't think he will run because a) His wife looks like she has a couple of years of cancer treatment ahead of her and that's bound to place politics on the back burner, and b) he simply lacks much experience as a political leader.

I would be interested to see if Wesley Clark re-emerges over the next few years. I think the Dems got spooked when Michael Moore endorsed him and wrote him off, but I think he would have been a much tougher candidate then Kerry, and could have gone toe-to-toe with the GOP on defence issues.

On the original McCain topic, the next four years are not going to be the cake-walk for Republicans that many are claiming. My first thought is that Carl Rove would never allow it because McCain isn't really part of the Bush agenda. However, now that they have a new term and a clear majority and the nation isn't suffering from massive shell-shock, they are going to be expected to produce results. The groups that put them in office are going to have expectations now and that means that real decisions are going to have to be made.

It's easy to make everyone happy when your defending the country, but now that real policy decision have to get made, people are going to start getting pissed no matter what you do. If Roe v. Wade goes down, the religious right is overjoyed, but at the same time, they may not be so motivated in the next election. If it doesn't go down, they run the risk of demorallizing the troops so to speak. This was a real problem for the Dems after Clinton was elected.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
You got to love those Hilary numbers. She would fall harder than Kerry.

She wouldn't even make it out of the primaries.

Today.. she wouldn't.. but in '08 I think she'll be the front runner. I can't think of another candidate the left has on my radar that has any appeal at all. She can run as a right of middle and still get all the left votes. Remember she is the only one on the left (as I remember) who supported Bush's effort in Iraq in press conferences. She is a woman and in '08 I think that will make a huge difference.

I don't see anybody on the Right either so maybe someone will pop up outta both camps.. but Hillary is gonna get the DNC nod... IMO

Hillary run as right of the middle?

That's hilarious. No one would fall for that.

 

[namike]

Yeah, i don't see Hilary having a chance. If you just look at it from a sexist perspective. Many men are going to have a hard time voting for a woman. And at the same time, many women i'm sure would support Hilary, but many women as we know them to be b*tches can hate each other to no end. So who knows, i say bring it on in 08' lets get this over with now.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: kissnup
Am I the only one that likes John Edwards? Do you think he will run? What's your opinion on Edwards?

He's not qualified.

neither was Bush.

So I suppoese that might be a good arguement.

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
As long as the far right are controlling the Republican party you'll never see the likes of McCain or Giulianni I believe. They would probably go with a guy like Frist if anything. As for the left, who really knows at this point, to early to call.

Originally posted by: Balt

Originally posted by: LunarRay

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
You got to love those Hilary numbers. She would fall harder than Kerry.

She wouldn't even make it out of the primaries.

Today.. she wouldn't.. but in '08 I think she'll be the front runner. I can't think of another candidate the left has on my radar that has any appeal at all. She can run as a right of middle and still get all the left votes. Remember she is the only one on the left (as I remember) who supported Bush's effort in Iraq in press conferences. She is a woman and in '08 I think that will make a huge difference.

I don't see anybody on the Right either so maybe someone will pop up outta both camps.. but Hillary is gonna get the DNC nod... IMO

Hillary run as right of the middle?

That's hilarious. No one would fall for that.

She does have a very conservative voting recrod in congress, not that it matters.

 

[randym431]

They left out Arnold. He's just waiting for congress to make it do-able.
Hillary wont run. She's old news anymore. Popular after the Clinton left in 2000, but has lost momentum since. McCain? I lost respect for him, and he doesn?t look that healthy to me. Giuliani? God! If they'll vote for Bush, yep, they'd probably vote for Giuliani. Beats me, however...
Powell? No, he isn?t a public "take the heat" kinda guy. He's too smart to ever run.
I think the crowd on both sides will have many "unknowns". Governors, business men and the like most likely. I'd expect Jeb Bush to make a run for sure. You can count on that!
How about Liz Dole??????

 

[Thump553]

I fully expect McCain to be in the run for 2008. He's already gotten bit by the presidential bug. By the middle of this next term, the Bush reputation (and GOP party) will probably be in tatters, and McCain will feel duty bound to rescue it.

I expect the Constitutional amendment effort for Arnold to die off fairly soon. After all, it was never done for Henry Kissinger, who was eminently more qualified to be President.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: kissnup
Am I the only one that likes John Edwards? Do you think he will run? What's your opinion on Edwards?

He's not qualified.

neither was Bush.

So I suppoese that might be a good arguement.

Right, because Bush really got his ass handed to him in the debates. Edwards is a pretty boy, nothing more, a lot less.

 

[randym431]

Right, because Bush really got his ass handed to him in the debates. Edwards is a pretty boy, nothing more, a lot less.

I like pretty. I could vote for pretty. :laugh: