McCain calls for US led air assaults on Assad Forces

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Lifer
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Nope, they spend all that money on the toys of war and they want to make sure they get to play with them.
 

werepossum

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LOL You guys are so transparent. Four square behind Obama bombing Libya, four square against McCain suggesting we do the same for the Syrians. Somehow I suspect that if/when Obama decides to reprise his role, you'll be for intervention in Syria.

And just for the record, since I know it's coming - I supported Obama attacking Libya, I'm against attacking in Syria, and I'll support Obama attacking in Syria if as President he decides it's necessary. I believe that whether neo-con or progressive, Republican or Democrat, no President lightly makes the decision to take the country to war.
 

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Lifer
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LOL You guys are so transparent. Four square behind Obama bombing Libya, four square against McCain suggesting we do the same for the Syrians. Somehow I suspect that if/when Obama decides to reprise his role, you'll be for intervention in Syria.

And just for the record, since I know it's coming - I supported Obama attacking Libya, I'm against attacking in Syria, and I'll support Obama attacking in Syria if as President he decides it's necessary. I believe that whether neo-con or progressive, Republican or Democrat, no President lightly makes the decision to take the country to war.

McCain was for the bombing of Libya, iirc. Or was he for it before he was against it?

The problem I have with bombing Syria is their ties with the Soviet Union.

Don't they have a base there?
 

Genx87

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McCain was for the bombing of Libya, iirc. Or was he for it before he was against it?

The problem I have with bombing Syria is their ties with the Soviet Union.

Don't they have a base there?

No biggie on those ties. They died two decades ago along with the USSR.
 

werepossum

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McCain was for the bombing of Libya, iirc. Or was he for it before he was against it?

The problem I have with bombing Syria is their ties with the Soviet Union.

Don't they have a base there?
Syria has strong ties with Russia, Red China and Iran, all three of whom strongly oppose any kind of action deposing Assad. I'd love to see the Syrian regime overthrown, but I'd hate to see a regional war sparked. Then again, judging from other regional results, regime change in Syria might further empower radical Islam, making things even worse or Israel and Lebanon.

I don't know about McCain and Libya. I'm - not a McCain fan.
 

hal2kilo

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I can't believe "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail McCain" would endorse this.
 
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Fern

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Do you want a conflict with Russia? I agree that Syria's actions are deplorable, but we can't police everywhere.

The article I read about McCain's proposal spoke of Homs and a few other places that would be protected by air cover to result in a safe haven for those opposed to Assad. Consequently, I don't believe there is any chance we will be bombing any Russian base that might be Syria.

Fern
 
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Fern

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I didn't like military action against Khaddyfi because was (at least semi) reformed and too many of the rebels were associated with AQ for my tastes.

Assad isn't reformed in any way, at all. But I'm still less than enthused about aiding his enemies.

Fern
 

jackschmittusa

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Superficial comparisons between Libya and Syria are pretty useless. The political ramifications are enormously different. Any President who wishes to act in the best interest of this country must take those into account in deciding a course of action.
 

boochi

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Drop a Daisy Cutter (BLU-82) on that sum bitche's palace and see what happens. Not too much collateral damage if nothing is nearby.
 

SamurAchzar

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Let the Syrian earn their freedom. Bombing them will just give the country to the radicals on a silver platter. So far the aftermath of the Arab Spring resembles a nuclear winter. Leave them the fuck alone - America will lose either way.
 

MovingTarget

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Do Neocons ever get sick of war? No, as in accordance with the 34th rule of acquisition. Does that mean that intervening in Syria is the wrong course of action? Not necessarily. Libya was a pretty easy decision to make seeing as how civilians were in direct, verifiable, and grave danger. In Syria, things are much less clear cut - and to top it all off, there is a high probability of starting a wider regional war if we do intervene in Syria. I'm still on the fence as I'm not sure that it is worth it - yet.
 

Doppel

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Assad should be personally targeted.

Neocons did not start this war and the world is ineptly watching, powerful to do something but powerless to bother, as this illegitimate dictator murders thousands of people.
 

Nintendesert

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Do you want a conflict with Russia? I agree that Syria's actions are deplorable, but we can't police everywhere.



I was rolling my eyes at the Soviet Union reference. To be quite frank I'm tired of both the (D) and the (R) warmongering across this planet.
 
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