McDonald’s confirms that it’s no longer using ‘pink slime’ chemical in hamburgers

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Red Squirrel

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LOL what a load of utter nonsense. "I don't know how things work therefore it must be fake/magic". Seriously, where to people learn to believe in this cargo cult voodoo bullshit? God, pseudo-science health nuts piss me off to no end.


There are 68 million customers served daily at McDonalds. Let's just say that only half of them eat a burger, so that brings us to 34 million burgers per day. Let's post the full number to put it in perspective. 34,000,000.

You can get roughly 2000 1/4 pounder patties out of a cow. That's 17,000 cows PER DAY. That is JUST MCDONALDS. Lot of cows are used for super market meat such as steaks etc. I'm also not taking into account that some burgers have multiple patties and some patties may be more than 1/4 pound.

17 THOUSAND cows. That's one day. Now the numbers seem to differ from source but it seems it's about 3 years before a cow is slaughtered. Let's be generous here and say it's 1.

For every 17 thousand cow killed in a day, there needs to be 17 thousand more ready to be killed the next day. That means that on any given day there needs to be 17 thousand cows born, and there needs to be 17 thousand times 1 year (365) alive. That's 6.2 million cows. A cow is roughly 6 feet long, and 4 feet wide. That means that there needs to be 408 thousand square feet of space dedicated to cows just for mcdonalds. Now they have to eat, they have to roam, a typical farm is not going to squish them that close together (though some of them do). Either way, enough grass needs to be grown on a daily basis to supply all these cows. I wont get into the math of that but just consider the fact that grass does not get 2 inches tall overnight.

There would almost need to be a HUGE farm and slaughterhouse in every city for that much burgers to be 100% beef. Remember those numbers are based only on Mcdonald's. There needs to be enough for all the other fast food places. I can almost guarantee most of those fast food patties are more than 50% filler.

Guess the bottom line is, it's safe because nobody really dies from it, and they still taste good. But we also can't be blinded into thinking it's actually real beef.

Maybe it is plausible, but it just does not seem like it could be though, unless there's some secret floating farm on the Atlantic ocean or something.
 

basslover1

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You think McD's cows eat grass? LOL

Try again.

Probably 98% of beef consumed is raised on corn, which is cheaper than grass and allows for feed lots. Line the cows up, dump the corn, they eat.

McDs cows are probably of the older variety, 750+ lbs closer to 1k I would guess. And, they're usually shitty cows too, IE supermarkets/restaurants don't want them because they're too old or lack proper marbling.

Though, when you really think about it the food industry is HUGE, most of middle American land is used to raise animals.

For Christmas this year, my store went through 45 cases of beef ribs, four in each case that's 180 ribs, two per cow, 90 cows just to service one store. Multiply that out by 1100 (# of stores) and you have nearly 100k cows just for Christmas rib roasts. It's nuts when you extrapolate it out like that.
 

QuantumPion

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Jun 27, 2005
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There are 68 million customers served daily at McDonalds. Let's just say that only half of them eat a burger, so that brings us to 34 million burgers per day. Let's post the full number to put it in perspective. 34,000,000.

You can get roughly 2000 1/4 pounder patties out of a cow. That's 17,000 cows PER DAY. That is JUST MCDONALDS. Lot of cows are used for super market meat such as steaks etc. I'm also not taking into account that some burgers have multiple patties and some patties may be more than 1/4 pound.

17 THOUSAND cows. That's one day. Now the numbers seem to differ from source but it seems it's about 3 years before a cow is slaughtered. Let's be generous here and say it's 1.

For every 17 thousand cow killed in a day, there needs to be 17 thousand more ready to be killed the next day. That means that on any given day there needs to be 17 thousand cows born, and there needs to be 17 thousand times 1 year (365) alive. That's 6.2 million cows. A cow is roughly 6 feet long, and 4 feet wide. That means that there needs to be 408 thousand square feet of space dedicated to cows just for mcdonalds. Now they have to eat, they have to roam, a typical farm is not going to squish them that close together (though some of them do). Either way, enough grass needs to be grown on a daily basis to supply all these cows. I wont get into the math of that but just consider the fact that grass does not get 2 inches tall overnight.

There would almost need to be a HUGE farm and slaughterhouse in every city for that much burgers to be 100% beef. Remember those numbers are based only on Mcdonald's. There needs to be enough for all the other fast food places. I can almost guarantee most of those fast food patties are more than 50% filler.

Guess the bottom line is, it's safe because nobody really dies from it, and they still taste good. But we also can't be blinded into thinking it's actually real beef.

Maybe it is plausible, but it just does not seem like it could be though, unless there's some secret floating farm on the Atlantic ocean or something.

Your numbers are wrong but they are in the ballpark. There are around 100 million cows in the US. McDonald probably does indeed slaughter something like 10 million cows per year although that may be for total world wide production.

500 thousand square feet (~10 acres) is a pretty tiny area compared to the size of an average commercial livestock farm. The world is a big place. Maybe you should get out sometime.

Their hamburgers are in fact 100% beef. Just because you chose to use emotion and superstition to base your understanding of the world doesn't make those assertions true.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
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look up Brazilian Blowout...It's already banned in a few countries, but people still want to use it.
 

alent1234

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There are 68 million customers served daily at McDonalds. Let's just say that only half of them eat a burger, so that brings us to 34 million burgers per day. Let's post the full number to put it in perspective. 34,000,000.

You can get roughly 2000 1/4 pounder patties out of a cow. That's 17,000 cows PER DAY. That is JUST MCDONALDS. Lot of cows are used for super market meat such as steaks etc. I'm also not taking into account that some burgers have multiple patties and some patties may be more than 1/4 pound.

17 THOUSAND cows. That's one day. Now the numbers seem to differ from source but it seems it's about 3 years before a cow is slaughtered. Let's be generous here and say it's 1.

For every 17 thousand cow killed in a day, there needs to be 17 thousand more ready to be killed the next day. That means that on any given day there needs to be 17 thousand cows born, and there needs to be 17 thousand times 1 year (365) alive. That's 6.2 million cows. A cow is roughly 6 feet long, and 4 feet wide. That means that there needs to be 408 thousand square feet of space dedicated to cows just for mcdonalds. Now they have to eat, they have to roam, a typical farm is not going to squish them that close together (though some of them do). Either way, enough grass needs to be grown on a daily basis to supply all these cows. I wont get into the math of that but just consider the fact that grass does not get 2 inches tall overnight.

There would almost need to be a HUGE farm and slaughterhouse in every city for that much burgers to be 100% beef. Remember those numbers are based only on Mcdonald's. There needs to be enough for all the other fast food places. I can almost guarantee most of those fast food patties are more than 50% filler.

Guess the bottom line is, it's safe because nobody really dies from it, and they still taste good. But we also can't be blinded into thinking it's actually real beef.

Maybe it is plausible, but it just does not seem like it could be though, unless there's some secret floating farm on the Atlantic ocean or something.

no one in their right mind feeds grass to a cow

you keep them in tight pens to sit in their own waste. feed them corn. when their stomachs get holes from the increased acidity you feed them antibiotics. and add some growth hormone to keep them growing faster

the corn and growth hormone let cows gain weight faster so you can kill them faster
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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no one in their right mind feeds grass to a cow

you keep them in tight pens to sit in their own waste. feed them corn. when their stomachs get holes from the increased acidity you feed them antibiotics. and add some growth hormone to keep them growing faster

the corn and growth hormone let cows gain weight faster so you can kill them faster

Farmers do
 

RadiclDreamer

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Because when something is "similar" in chemical composition to something else does not mean its the same damn thing. I don't think you would want to eat Na or Cl by itself.

Just because something comes from something that "sounds" disgusting doesn't mean it's unsafe.

Just because something can be used for different purposes doesn't mean its unsafe.

I tell people this when they say margerine is one molecule away from plastic. I tell them that they need to understand that h2o is one molecule away from h2o2 which is dangerous as hell
 

Red Squirrel

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I tell people this when they say margerine is one molecule away from plastic. I tell them that they need to understand that h2o is one molecule away from h2o2 which is dangerous as hell

H2O is actually really dangerous too and is responsible for quite a lot of deaths. If you inhale too much of it, you can stop breathing.

What's even worse is when you split it, you get a highly explosive gas. The stuff is dangerous man! :awe:
 
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Don't eat this stuff people. It's not real food. It's basically a little higher grade cheap dog food. In all honesty I believe the Iams dog food I feed my dog is better.
 

MrX8503

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I don't understand the logic of "Well everything else is just as bad". Obviously that's the point and what's wrong with America. We need refocus what we think good food is and it seems like we're doing a poor job at it with 2/3 of the population being overweight.

Since everything surrounds money, I don't see us coming off this addiction any time soon.
 

Exterous

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This thread now reminds me of the joke about the two guys ordering water
I'll have H2O
I'll have H2O too <- guy dies from H2O2
 

LTC8K6

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McD's uses 100% beef, no fillers or extenders, just like they say.

Get over it.

It's the same beef you would use to make a burger.
 
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McD's uses 100% beef, no fillers or extenders, just like they say.

Get over it.

It's the same beef you would use to make a burger.

Then why do my hamburgers look like meat and McD's patties look grey and soggy like its been sitting in a tub of warm water for 2 days?
 

Locut0s

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Don't eat this stuff people. It's not real food. It's basically a little higher grade cheap dog food. In all honesty I believe the Iams dog food I feed my dog is better.

Dog food can actually be significantly better quality food than what a lot of people are forced to survive on. It just doesn't have the strict safety standards and quality control that food meant for human consumption has.
 

Squisher

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By-the-way, McDonalds gets 7 quarter pounders out a pound of beef.

The magic ingredient.....ice, quarter pounder patties are weighed after the beef is mixed with water and frozen.
 

ShawnD1

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OP article is possibly the worst article I have ever read in my entire life.

Propylene glycol: This chemical is very similar to ethylene glycol, a dangerous anti-freeze. This less-toxic cousin prevents products from becoming too solid. Some ice creams have this ingredient; otherwise you'd be eating ice.
I wonder what wikipedia says about this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol#Humans
Serious toxicity generally occurs only at plasma concentrations over 1 g/L, which requires extremely high intake over a relatively short period of time.[15] It would be nearly impossible to reach toxic levels by consuming foods or supplements, which contain at most 1 g/kg of PG. Cases of propylene glycol poisoning are usually related to either inappropriate intravenous administration or accidental ingestion of large quantities by children.[16] The potential for long-term oral toxicity is also low. In one study, rats were provided with feed containing as much as 5% PG in feed over a period of 104 weeks and they showed no apparent ill effects.[17] Because of its low chronic oral toxicity, propylene glycol was classified by the U. S. Food and Drug Administration as "generally recognized as safe" (GRAS) for use as a direct food additive.



I think a lot of people have lost sight to what pink slime is. It the cuttings off the floor (snouts, tongues, ears, tails, etc.) which have a higher concentration of bacteria than is allowable for human consumption. It was then treated with chemicals to make it edible by humans.
As many have pointed out before, eating the entire animal is good for the environment and good for humanity. We would have a pretty bad foot shortage if we only ate t-bone steak and threw the rest of the cow in the garbage.


McD's uses 100% beef, no fillers or extenders, just like they say.

Get over it.

It's the same beef you would use to make a burger.
This. Hamburger and sausage are straight up disgusting. The stuff you buy at the store is every bit as bad as the stuff McDonalds buys. I can still tolerate them. My dad grew up on a farm and he absolutely refuses to eat sausage. It's perfectly safe, but it's yucky.
 

Modelworks

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I brought this up on here a few months back and lots of people said that places didn't do that for real, it was all a urban legend, I knew otherwise because my dad retired from working in the meat business. It was the stuff that would have gone to dog food but instead was washed down with ammonia and other chemicals to kill bacteria then ground up and mixed with hamburger. I stand by my hamburger recommendation, you want to buy ground beef ? Grab some whole meat from the case and have them grind it for you.
Never buy that stuff in the plastic tubes, that is absolutely the worst grade of meat possible.
 

ShawnD1

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Never buy that stuff in the plastic tubes, that is absolutely the worst grade of meat possible.
And remember that anything tube shaped was in a tube at some point. Hotdogs don't come in individually wrapped tubes, but that is how they were made.
 

zinfamous

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No, there's only a teaspoon of sugar.

Because it's delicious? And you're going to die anyway?

seriously?

no.

ketchup = red-colored sugar paste

miracle whip = disgusting white sugar goo.
mayo (I'm guessing kraft/hellmans?) = offensively bad white sugar goo.

Why add an extra teaspoon of sugar, when everything you have added is loaded with the crap?
 

BornStar

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I tell people this when they say margerine is one molecule away from plastic. I tell them that they need to understand that h2o is one molecule away from h2o2 which is dangerous as hell
I've heard people say this before but I have yet to figure out what it means. Everything is one molecule away from everything else. Atom makes a little more sense but even that is just ridiculous.
 
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