Mechwarrior Online (Previously MW5/MW3015)

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KaOTiK

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I personally liked to shoot the legs. How is leg damage handled in this game? A downed mech in other mechwarrior games were treated as "killed" and you can't do anything afterwards.

When you destroy a leg in MWO it is crippled and can barely move but the mech otherwise functions as normal. The shooting legs to get a kill was super cheesy in the other games and people would just aim for the much less armored and much more easy to destroy legs then anything else.
 

DigDog

Lifer
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can anyone explain why the mechs have glass cockpits and why enemies dont just shoot thru the glass?

and if the glass is so tough to penetrate, why dont they just make most of the armor out of glass?

glass can be made very thick, and it's very heavy. mech's aren't made of metal either; you would know if you were old as i am(and read the manual of the original boardgame), they have a thin layer of armour over what is essentially plastic. the whole premise of Battletech rests on this.

anyway, although MW2 was fun as a third person shooter (which is what it was, even with a wee bit of statistics thrown in), mechwarrior/battletech simply never survived the transaction from boardgame to PC game successfully.
 

Skott

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Oct 4, 2005
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Disarming an opponent can be quite effective, as can shooting the hips (damaging movement servos), breaking L or R Torso sections (destroying a Mech with an XL engine) and other little things.

You could order Elite or Veteran now and upgrade to Legendary before they remove the possibility to purchase it. I bought into Elite then upgraded to Legendary.

You may wish to do it before the 10th of July which is when the next lot of beta invites is supposedly sent out to Founders only.



Dang it, you are not helping! LOL

If I go I go all in with Legendary right from the start. Because that's how I roll. ;-)
 

Martimus

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glass can be made very thick, and it's very heavy. mech's aren't made of metal either; you would know if you were old as i am(and read the manual of the original boardgame), they have a thin layer of armour over what is essentially plastic. the whole premise of Battletech rests on this.

anyway, although MW2 was fun as a third person shooter (which is what it was, even with a wee bit of statistics thrown in), mechwarrior/battletech simply never survived the transaction from boardgame to PC game successfully.

I played both and MW2 was actually pretty good at taking the rules from Battletech. Mercenaries was even better, although there were issues with both (like how they handled LRMs). Mechwarrior 1, while fun, had little in common with Battletech. The Battletech PC games had there own issues, even though they were top down hex tile TBS games like the board game.
 

Cerb

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Aug 26, 2000
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Anyone else considering doing a 3DP-Vert? With the game imminent, I'm about to cobble together a temporary XP box, and see if I can still aim with my old 3D Pro Plus/Precision Pro, which I have now found, dusted off, and confirmed to not be USB compatible (later releases were, with an adapter). I truly don't understand why a good peripherals company like Logitech cant bring themselves to R&D a superior stick, today.
 
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Anyone else considering doing a 3DP-Vert? With the game imminent, I'm about to cobble together a temporary XP box, and see if I can still aim with my old 3D Pro Plus/Precision Pro, which I have now found, dusted off, and confirmed to not be USB compatible (later releases were, with an adapter). I truly don't understand why a good peripherals company like Logitech cant bring themselves to R&D a superior stick, today.

CH Products.

The sim jockeys on the mwomercs.com forums also seem to like the Saitek x52 and x65.

I ended up with a relatively inexpensive Thrustmaster HOTAS. It's as good as I remember my USB Sidewinder being so many years ago. (No idea how it compares to the Precision Pro, of course.)
 

Cerb

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CH Products.
I'm starting to look out for a used combatstick, as an option, and maybe a Thrustmater T.Flight HOTAS X (the one you got, maybe?). A Sidewinder adapter will cost around $30, a bit less if I take the time to adapt it to perfboard (however, I never use my big breadboard, so it won't be a real loss).

The sim jockeys on the mwomercs.com forums also seem to like the Saitek x52 and x65.
Saitek's centering spring secured to the floating plastic ring is a love or hate thing, and I'm way on the end of the hate side. I have a couple I've been meaning to sell for cheap (my cat loves the Evo's box, so I may have to keep it ). The feel is just wrong. The x65 is a whole different beast, in a real sim price range, and I've read that the x52 Pro feels better wrt to centering than the 'plain' x52.

I ended up with a relatively inexpensive Thrustmaster HOTAS. It's as good as I remember my USB Sidewinder being so many years ago. (No idea how it compares to the Precision Pro, of course.)
AFAIK, all of them starting with the 3D Pro (the symmetrical non-ergonomic model) are gradual updates, internally, and more or less act the same, and all USB models are newer than mine. The only real problems came with force feedback models that got heavy use, and that the throttles would wear out, if you used them (since you need two hands, I never understood the point, compared to a second controller, or using the keyboard, and always considered it a cheap way for them to add an axis for marketing reasons).
 
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Elcs

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Apr 27, 2002
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Joystick + mouse control sounds interesting.

Stop tempting me!
 

Cerb

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Joystick + mouse control sounds interesting.

Stop tempting me!
It aught to be fine. I disliked mice in the previous games because I was always having to pick it up and reposition it. That's why I had...a trackball! I went through 2 MS Trackball Explorers between MW3 and MW4. They wear out, and they cost way too much on eBay, today (likely due to wearing out, but there's nothing quite like them out there today, AFAIK).

The thing about sticks is more immersion than anything else. The problem with sticks is that cheap PC joysticks have been 100x worse than cheap mice, as far back as I can remember.

There's no good reason not to use a mouse, if it feels right, and you can aim well enough with it. Also, you have a mouse, already, so why not try it, once the game goes to open beta, or release, or if you get lucky with an invite?
 

Harabec

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I had a SW FF Pro (after a year with a Precision Pro) ages ago, I think it had to go due to no USB support when I upgraded. Was a wonderful product, I don't know what kind of plastic MS used but you could pummel people to death with it...great quality.
 

IEC

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Are we going to start an AT clan? I'm looking into the Founders packages now... definitely been waiting for many years for this game...
 

Elcs

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I'm probably going to be joining up with a few guys from my WoT Clan. Since they're all EU with me they'll move over to an EU server when MWO decides to get one
 

Skott

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I'm probably going to be joining up with a few guys from my WoT Clan. Since they're all EU with me they'll move over to an EU server when MWO decides to get one

A shame they don't set it up like Eve where everyone is on one server/universe. I miss playing with you and the other Europeans like back in WoT beta. That was a lot of fun.
 

lupi

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I can actually do pretty good with just a mouse, but where the joystick really kicks in is if you are good at having your legs and torso operating at seperate axis.
 

Elcs

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Close to dropping £104 (about $170 USD using Paypals currency converter and includes all of my relevant taxes + delivery) on a Saitek x52 Pro HOTAS for MWO.
 

Kalmah

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Close to dropping £104 (about $170 USD using Paypals currency converter and includes all of my relevant taxes + delivery) on a Saitek x52 Pro HOTAS for MWO.

I have the x52(non pro). The joystick is wonderful. I've used it for flight simulator for years. It is cheaply built though, many of the LEDs flicker on and off at times. One never even worked out of the box. It appears the pro version addresses the cheap quality of the non pro. I would love for a non-hackjob version of my joystick which appears to be the pro. I'd say go for it.
 

Skott

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I haven't owned a joystick in years. Today's sticks do so much that it would probably confuse me. LOL
 
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I've had the Thrustmaster for a week and it's probably going to have to go back. I finished their testing requests after they were gone for the day so I won't find out until tomorrow.

When I move the stick back and forth, buttons 1 and 2 trigger by themselves. Dammit.
 
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Did any of you guys who purchased Founder packages get Beta keys recently?

Last batch was sent out on July 2nd.

Next batch will be after this week. (Integrating new servers.)

So no. Nobody has gotten any since the 2nd.

They announce it on the forums and do it by lottery, supposedly.
 

KaOTiK

Lifer
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On their facebook they said they have started sending keys on to founders in small batches and will continue doing so in small batches to make sure their new hardware can handle it all fine.
 

felang

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Feb 17, 2007
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Last batch was sent out on July 2nd.

Next batch will be after this week. (Integrating new servers.)

So no. Nobody has gotten any since the 2nd.

They announce it on the forums and do it by lottery, supposedly.

Thanks. MW 2 is actually one of the first PC games I remember playing and I´ve been a fan ever since. Signed up for elite yesterday (although nowadays don´t really have much time to dedicate to gaming), hopefully I´ll get early access.

I tried Living Legends about a year or two ago and had a blast... don´t know how similar this will be though.
 

Elcs

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Apr 27, 2002
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Purchased a Saitek x52 Pro. Delivery tomorrow some time. Probably get practice in via MW:LL.

Thanks. MW 2 is actually one of the first PC games I remember playing and I´ve been a fan ever since. Signed up for elite yesterday (although nowadays don´t really have much time to dedicate to gaming), hopefully I´ll get early access.

I tried Living Legends about a year or two ago and had a blast... don´t know how similar this will be though.

Early Access is guarunteed. (7th Aug currently). Closed beta is a lottery.

MW:LL should be very similar but MWO should be truer to the real Battletech (real meaning Tabletop and Fiction). Also there will be no combined arms so you won't get pew-pewed by VTOL's who can hover so high you can't fire back.
 

DrunkenSano

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Got this off of the MWO forums:

From the Mechwarrior Facebook Page:

  • TJ Harrington Any update on beta keys? From Russ' post earlier this month people got the impression that keys would be going out yesterday.
    47 minutes ago · Like


  • MechWarrior Online ‎TJ Harrington: We are letting in Founders players in by groups, we are still testing the hardware to make sure it can handle the numbers. We want the best gaming experience for all players.
    45 minutes ago · Like · 5
Just thought some folks might be interested....


Edit: Also, from the feedback I've received, I will monitor facebook and twitter for folks who do not use those platforms. Lots of good info there that my friends here seem to be missing out on. If I see something, I will update!!! Good luck everyone!!
 
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