Mediatek Helios X20 Geekbench

[Hans de Vries]

One of the better A72 implementations it seems: 2.50 GHz

(Dual A72 @2.5GH, Quad A53@2.0GHz, Dual A53@1.4GHz)

http://mediatek-helio.com/x20/



Therefore close to the A9 in single thread integer performance....

Apple A9 vs Mediatek Helio X20

Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 vs Mediatex Helio X20

Intel Core m3-6Y30 vs Mediatek Helio X20

Intel Atom x7-8700 @2.4GHz vs Mediatek Helio X20


Still using LPDDR3, and therefor lower graphics performance and
lower memory bandwidth. For the rest very impressive !!

source

 

[Fjodor2001]

Impressive!

7100 in MT performance for X20, vs 4453 for A9. So X20 is 60% faster!

 

[el etro]

Awesome performance, but i still don't trust in big.LITTLE implementation. I prefer Apple or even Qualcomm way of to do it.

Single Core performance is game changing for chinese high-end smartphones.

 

[monstercameron]

Moar coars is still alive baby! Wish they didn't have a weak sauce gpu though.

Hans has their core pilot tech been changed to be more hsa aware?

 

[Arachnotronic]

One of the better A72 implementations it seems: 2.50 GHz

(Dual A72 @2.5GH, Quad A53@2.0GHz, Dual A53@1.4GHz)

http://mediatek-helio.com/x20/



Therefore close to the A9 in single thread integer performance....

Apple A9 vs Mediatek Helio X20

Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 vs Mediatex Helio X20

Intel Core m3-6Y30 vs Mediatek Helio X20

Intel Atom x7-8700 @2.4GHz vs Mediatek Helio X20


Still using LPDDR3, and therefor lower graphics performance and
lower memory bandwidth. For the rest very impressive !!

source

If we strip out the dumb crypto tests, the A9 @ 1.85ghz still posts significantly better integer performance than the 2.5GHz A72.

 

[Exophase]

If we strip out the dumb crypto tests, the A9 @ 1.85ghz still posts significantly better integer performance than the 2.5GHz A72.

Yes but let's face it, I doubt an awful lot of people are choosing iOS over Android based on CPU performance alone. Apple's impressive CPU prowess is more of a compelling factor in getting owners of older iOS products to upgrade. For all intents and purposes they really are separate product classes.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yes but let's face it, I doubt an awful lot of people are choosing iOS over Android based on CPU performance alone. Apple's impressive CPU prowess is more of a compelling factor in getting owners of older iOS products to upgrade. For all intents and purposes they really are separate product classes.

Oh I agree, but I'm just looking at this from a pure CPU comparison standpoint, not trying to do any business analysis here

 

[Exophase]

Oh I agree, but I'm just looking at this from a pure CPU comparison standpoint, not trying to do any business analysis here

Well, yeah. I'm just saying that we can all agree Apple has great CPUs but that's not always relevant, and this goes beyond a business discussion. As in, I personally have no interest in buying an iOS device right now.

Here's one thing I think is worth looking at: Apple has been presented as basically the proof that buying an ARM licensed core just doesn't cut it for cutting edge performance. But if you look at the other players going against ARM with their own designs (Qualcomm, Intel, and soon Samsung) that becomes less obvious. That said, there are some cases (mainly where 4+ cores actually works well) that Apple isn't necessarily the obvious choice either.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Here's one thing I think is worth looking at: Apple has been presented as basically the proof that buying an ARM licensed core just doesn't cut it for cutting edge performance. But if you look at the other players going against ARM with their own designs (Qualcomm, Intel, and soon Samsung) that becomes less obvious.

Agreed. A72 properly implemented looks just as robust as the Kryo core, if not more-so.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Well, yeah. I'm just saying that we can all agree Apple has great CPUs but that's not always relevant, and this goes beyond a business discussion. As in, I personally have no interest in buying an iOS device right now.

Here's one thing I think is worth looking at: Apple has been presented as basically the proof that buying an ARM licensed core just doesn't cut it for cutting edge performance. But if you look at the other players going against ARM with their own designs (Qualcomm, Intel, and soon Samsung) that becomes less obvious. That said, there are some cases (mainly where 4+ cores actually works well) that Apple isn't necessarily the obvious choice either.

The rest are so obsessed by Apple custom ARM chips that they don't see that is just only one part of Apple's unique vertical integration package. Raw performance matters waaaaaay less than the tech circles would want to believe.

 

[kpkp]

Oh I agree, but I'm just looking at this from a pure CPU comparison standpoint, not trying to do any business analysis here

If that's the case, you need to mention the different manufacturing process, right? From that standpoint the X20 should be compared to the A8.

 

[Vesku]

This is a very unbalanced SoC, should drop 2-4 cores and dedicate that space to more GPU.

 

[Fjodor2001]

This is a very unbalanced SoC, should drop 2-4 cores and dedicate that space to more GPU.

Or keep the CPU cores but just add more GPU.

 

[kpkp]

This is a very unbalanced SoC, should drop 2-4 cores and dedicate that space to more GPU.

It seems GPU isn't perceived as a priority by the Chinese companies as Huawei uses the same "weak" GPU configuration.

 

[NTMBK]

It seems GPU isn't perceived as a priority by the Chinese companies as Huawei uses the same "weak" GPU configuration.

Moar cores make better marketing copy than indecipherable Mali model numbers.

 

[DrMrLordX]

If the GPU is already bottlenecked by LPDDR3, then switching to a bigger/better GPU would provide no benefit.

 

[dark zero]

It seems GPU isn't perceived as a priority by the Chinese companies as Huawei uses the same "weak" GPU configuration.

It's like the other side with Qualcomm, strong GPU, however not so good CPU until Kryo.

 

[kpkp]

It's like the other side with Qualcomm, strong GPU, however not so good CPU until Kryo.

Krait was doing fine on the CPU side too. They just messed up with the last gen, lets hope they are back on track now.

 

[alyarb]

Cool, Hans is still around.