Mel Gibson may be Blacklisted in Hollywood over New Film

Amused

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Wait, liberals blacklisting people??? Weren't they screaming about free speech and McCarthyism when the FANS of war protesters decided not to support them any more???



From the New York Times:

New Film May Harm Gibson's Career
By SHARON WAXMAN

Published: February 26, 2004

LOS ANGELES, Feb. 25 ? Mel Gibson's provocative new film, "The Passion of the Christ," is making some of Hollywood's most prominent executives uncomfortable in ways that may damage Mr. Gibson's career.

Hollywood is a close-knit world, and friendships and social contact are critical in the making of deals and the casting of movies. Many of Hollywood's most prominent figures are also Jewish. So with a furor arising around the film, along with Mr. Gibson's reluctance to distance himself from his father, who calls the Holocaust mostly fiction, it is no surprise that Hollywood ? Jewish and non-Jewish ? has been talking about little else, at least when it's not talking about the Oscars.

Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen, the principals of DreamWorks, have privately expressed anger over the film, said an executive close to the two men.

The chairmen of two other major studios said they would avoid working with Mr. Gibson because of "The Passion of the Christ" and the star's remarks surrounding its release.

Neither of the chairmen would speak for attribution, but as one explained: "It doesn't matter what I say. It'll matter what I do. I will do something. I won't hire him. I won't support anything he's part of. Personally that's all I can do."

The chairman said he was angry not just because of what he had read about the film and its portrayal of Jews in relation to the death of Jesus, but because of Mr. Gibson's remarks defending his father, Hutton Gibson. Last week in a radio interview the elder Mr. Gibson repeated his contention that the Holocaust was "all ? maybe not all fiction ? but most of it is." Asked about his father's Holocaust denial in an interview with Diane Sawyer on ABC, the movie star told her to "leave it alone."

The other studio chairman, whose family fled European anti-Semitism before the Holocaust, was less emphatic but said, "I think I can live without him." But others said there would be no lasting backlash against Mel Gibson. "If the movie works, I don't think it will hurt him," said John Lesher, an agent with Endeavor. "People here will work with the anti-Christ if he'll put butts in seats." Mr. Lesher added, "He put his own money where his mouth is. He invested in himself."

As Mr. Lesher implied, Hollywood is also a place of businesspeople, and Mr. Gibson is a proven movie star, popular with audiences. There are few actors with that kind of bankability, no matter their personal views. Mr. Gibson is also a capable director. So some of the initial reactions to his film may fade over time.

Mr. Gibson not only directed and helped write the $30 million film, but he also paid for it, including production and marketing costs, out of his own pocket, which Hollywood has filled.

As an actor and successful director, from "Mad Max" (1979) through "Lethal Weapon" (1987) and its sequels to the Oscar-winning "Braveheart" (1995), Mr. Gibson has long been a Hollywood pet. But he has also been known as a prankster and a self-confessed abuser of various substances. Many in the relentlessly secular movie industry see his recent religious conversion ? he practices a traditionalist version of Roman Catholicism ? as another form of addiction.

Last Friday the media billionaire Haim Saban, former owner of the Fox Family Channel, sent a concerned e-mail message to friends about Mr. Gibson and his father.

The message forwarded an article by the journalist Mitch Albom calling on Mr. Gibson to repudiate his father's denial of the Holocaust. Mr. Saban sent the article to, among others, Roger Ailes, who heads Fox News; Norman Pattiz, who runs the Westwood One radio network; and Michael R. Milken, the securities felon turned philanthropist.

Amid the daily dealings of Hollywood, the film and the star have been fodder for unfavorable gossip. Dustin Hoffman has talked to friends about what he called Mr. Gibson's "strangeness" during the ABC interview. The producer Mike Medavoy said Mr. Gibson's religious zealotry made him feel uncomfortable. Mr. Hoffman is Jewish; Mr. Medavoy is the child of Holocaust survivors.

"One question is, `What propelled him to make the movie about the passion of Christ?' " Mr. Medavoy said. "It makes me a little squeamish. What makes me squeamish about religion in general is that people think they have the answer: `I think my God is the right God.' How do you argue against that?"

But many non-Jews in Hollywood have also been unhappy about the religious divisions that the movie has exposed and could deepen. A public relations expert who usually works closely with Newmarket, which is distributing the film, said she declined to work on the film, though she is Roman Catholic. "This kind of thing tends to bring out the worst in people," she said, insisting that her name not be used.

The director David O. Russell, who described himself as areligious, said that although he had not seen the film, he was disturbed by the prospect that "The Passion" could feed anti-Semitism. "There are so many wonderfully provocative things about Jesus' life and death that challenge us to be better people," he said. "If it stirs anti-Semitism, then what a wasted opportunity."

Melisa Richter, a publicist who worked for one of the largest Christian movie production houses in the country, Cloud Ten Pictures, wrote in an e-mail message that the film "feeds into the culture of anti-Semitism that is out there, repeating it again and again in a popular format (the film medium), lacking vital historical context and background."

Several prominent people interviewed for this article said they were curious about the film but would not buy tickets to see it.

Still, some of Mr. Gibson's Jewish friends have been defending him and the movie. The producer Dean Devlin, who is Jewish, said, "It's a phenomenal movie about love and forgiveness, and I personally didn't find it anti-Semitic whatsoever."

Mr. Devlin said that he thought those in Hollywood who were angry would get over it. "I think it's a big issue today, as the movie is opening, but over time it will be seen as one of many beautiful renditions of the story," he said. "My hunch is this will pass, this film will be remembered as a beautiful film, and Mel will go back to making movies. That's my hope."

Alan Nierob, Mr. Gibson's publicist, is himself the child of Holocaust survivors. "I think Hollywood appreciates good art and will embrace the talent of a filmmaker," Mr. Nierob said. "I don't see a negative reaction."

 

steveeast112

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I don't think that anyone should be blacklisted if it was an accurate portrayal. We've got a lot of powerful religious fanatics in government and in other high places, and they like to discredit people.
 

NFS4

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People are stupid. All he did was make a damn movie. It's not like he was a communist "whistle blower" or raped little girls like some other film-makers.
 

Orsorum

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It's his father, you expect him to distance himself from him entirely? My father and my grandfather have some beliefs regarding blacks and hispanics that I find appalling, but I don't hold it against them, part of it is just the way they were raised and part of it is just who they are. I can't correct them, and so I love them and leave it at that. I don't feel it's a reflection on me what beliefs they hold, and I would be incensed if someone said something even remotely to that effect.
 

steveeast112

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It's his own beliefs, and people have the choice to just NOT see this movie if they think it will offend them. They don't have to complain about it.
 

WinkOsmosis

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There was no controversy until people started saying there was, and Mel Gibson isn't blacklisted. STOP POSTING THAT CRAP AND PRETENDING IT'S SOME LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!!
 

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Well, in the spirit of peace and love, anyone who would blacklist someone over this ought to be nailed to a door by their testicles. Then we could have a movie made about it.
 

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Well, in the spirit of peace and love, anyone who would blacklist someone over this ought to be nailed to a door by their testicles. Then we could have a movie made about it.

*winces*
 

pulse8

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bah...

The only thing that matters is money and everyone is just pissed because they refused to pickup this movie.

Mel Gibson is going to make enough from this movie that him AND his children will NEVER have to work a day in their lives again and enough that Hollywood will do whatever he wants because of it.
 

minendo

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If Gibson is to be blacklisted for any reason, it should have been for the movie Signs.
 

Ime

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I'd believe it.

Not because it pisses off some group (liberal, jew, whoever). Hollywood is just plain vindictive. Hollywood regular chews people up and spits them out.
 

pulse8

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Originally posted by: Quixfire
How many major movies are filmed in Hollywood now any ways?

They may not all be filmed there anymore, but the money definitely comes from there to make them.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
There was no controversy until people started saying there was, and Mel Gibson isn't blacklisted. STOP POSTING THAT CRAP AND PRETENDING IT'S SOME LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!!

Did you READ the article? Top hollywood execs banding together to decry the movie, and two of them coming right out and stating they would never hire Gibson.

What is the definition of conspiracy?
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
There was no controversy until people started saying there was, and Mel Gibson isn't blacklisted. STOP POSTING THAT CRAP AND PRETENDING IT'S SOME LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!!

Did you READ the article? Top hollywood execs banding together to decry the movie, and two of them coming right out and stating they would never hire Gibson.

What is the definition of conspiracy?

WinkOsmosis is latin for "I am a retard", you'll have to excuse him.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Ime
I'd believe it.

Not because it pisses off some group (liberal, jew, whoever). Hollywood is just plain vindictive. Hollywood regular chews people up and spits them out.

Hollywood is also VERY liberal.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
There was no controversy until people started saying there was, and Mel Gibson isn't blacklisted. STOP POSTING THAT CRAP AND PRETENDING IT'S SOME LIBERAL CONSPIRACY!!

Did you READ the article? Top hollywood execs banding together to decry the movie, and two of them coming right out and stating they would never hire Gibson.

What is the definition of conspiracy?

you know they're jewish... it could just be a personal thing
 

WinkOsmosis

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What makes you think hollywood executives are liberal? Being Jewish doesn't make you liberal....
5 people bitching, and a bunch more saying they are fine with it doesn't make a blacklist.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
What makes you think hollywood executives are liberal? Being Jewish doesn't make you liberal....

traditionally jews are viewed as democrats, along with blacks
 

Mr N8

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He funded this movie mostly by himself. I would imagine that he can fund the rest of his career with profits from this and any other movie he wants to make. Good to see someone flipping off the system.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
What makes you think hollywood executives are liberal? Being Jewish doesn't make you liberal....

i wouldn't call them liberal. but they do give heavily to the Democratic party.
 
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