memory keeps dying

[w00t]

I had crucial 10th anniversary

overclocked it worked great for awhile ( stock 2.2V voltages )

one stick dies

get a new kit ( have to send back both sticks )

don't overclock run voltage that bios adjusts lower than 2.2V I believe

one stick dies

keep running one stick

that stick dies

get a new kit this time no 10th anniversary just the regular high performance DDR2-667

2.2V no overclock

one stick dies ( recently )

running one stick waiting for this one to die...

wth? I am sick of this memory dying... I am starting to think maybe my motherboard or psu is not working correctly and killing the memory other that I don't have an idea.

heat wise they felt slightly above warm but nothing seemed danger wise

so looking back at when I ordered the parts looks like the motherboard is no longer under warranty so I'd have to buy a new one if I found out that was actually the problem.

What do you feel I should do?

 

[Quiksilver]

Stop running it at 2.2V instead don't use any more voltage than necessary; basically start at 1.8v and work it up until it is stable. Now if you happen to need 2.2V for the overclock you want to achieve be prepared to implement some sort of active cooling system on them babies.

 

[Yellowbeard]

Just curious, what MOBO are you running? 2.2v should not be killing D9s that frequently. Have you verified that your Vdimm is accurate with a meter?

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver
Stop running it at 2.2V instead don't use any more voltage than necessary; basically start at 1.8v and work it up until it is stable. Now if you happen to need 2.2V for the overclock you want to achieve be prepared to implement some sort of active cooling system on them babies.

The recommended voltage is 2.2V in my first post you can see I tried various voltages and they still died.

Originally posted by: Yellowbeard
Just curious, what MOBO are you running? 2.2v should not be killing D9s that frequently. Have you verified that your Vdimm is accurate with a meter?

MSI 975X Platinum
http://www.msicomputer.com/pro...ited_Edition)&class=mb
except not V2 it was just before V2 so it has passive cooling instead of V1 which had active

I have not what kind of meter would I need to test this? sounds like a good idea

thought I'd include my PSU as others may say that could be the problem too
SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-550HT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817151027
5 year warranty

 

[Yellowbeard]

Just a standard DC volt meter. You can find very inexpensive models at places like Radio Shack, etc.

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: Yellowbeard
Just a standard DC volt meter. You can find very inexpensive models at places like Radio Shack, etc.

guess I will try that

should own a digital multi-meter by now anyway

that is a way to test both my motherboard and power-supply correct?

 

[Yellowbeard]

You can measure voltages from any DC source with a DC meter so, yes, you can check the outputs of your PSU with it.

 

[drebo]

I'd guess you've got a motherboard issue. Have you tried testing your defective RAM in another computer?

Also, I've had Crucial Ballistix (same stuff as the 10th AV) go bad on me quite a few times. In fact, Crucial's value RAM performs so well that I don't even bother recommending it anymore.

I haven't had any issues with 10th AV RAM or DDR2 Ballistix, but in my experience, the DDR1 Ballistix was absolute garbage.

 

[nerp]

I bought two individual packs of 2x1GB DDR1 ballistix ddr500. Of those, 2 sticks died. I ended up RMAing ALL the memory and crucial sent back complete replacements and it was an entirely different batch. Even the heatspreader looked different. It's been over a year now and the replacement memory has been flawless.

 

[w00t]

well, update uh the other stick died

really sick of this shiet

needa get a digital multi-meter and test the voltages on the psu and motherboard

not sure on doing that so I may start a new thread or continue on this one

as for the question trying it on another computer, sadly I don't have another computer with DDR2 ( using my old computer now )

how easy is it gonna be able to tell if the voltages are fluctuating also since my computer no longer posts will I still be able to properly check these?

Thanks

edit:
which one should I get?
http://www.radioshack.com/prod...eter&parentPage=search
http://www.radioshack.com/prod...eter&parentPage=search
http://www.radioshack.com/prod...eter&parentPage=search
http://www.radioshack.com/prod...eter&parentPage=search

 

[Yellowbeard]

You won't be able to detect fluctuations with a simple meter. What I was suggesting was to see if the voltage you set in bios matches the voltage you measure with the meter. I am not familiar with that MOBO so you will need to probe around some, find another user with that board who knows the measuring points, or Google.

 

[w00t]

Originally posted by: Yellowbeard
You won't be able to detect fluctuations with a simple meter. What I was suggesting was to see if the voltage you set in bios matches the voltage you measure with the meter. I am not familiar with that MOBO so you will need to probe around some, find another user with that board who knows the measuring points, or Google.

o ok so set it to 2.2V in bios and check to see if it's actually outputting that on the motherboard with the digital multi-meter?

if it's not? i can't necessarily say it's the motherboard killing the memory can I? if the voltage is lower or too high it could be part of it but it still wouldn't be able to tell me

plus the psu could have something to do with it correct?

 

[Yellowbeard]

Originally posted by: w00t

Originally posted by: Yellowbeard
You won't be able to detect fluctuations with a simple meter. What I was suggesting was to see if the voltage you set in bios matches the voltage you measure with the meter. I am not familiar with that MOBO so you will need to probe around some, find another user with that board who knows the measuring points, or Google.

o ok so set it to 2.2V in bios and check to see if it's actually outputting that on the motherboard with the digital multi-meter? YES, correct.

if it's not? i can't necessarily say it's the motherboard killing the memory can I? if the voltage is lower or too high it could be part of it but it still wouldn't be able to tell me. IT WILL be difficult to say either way but, this is a good starting point.


plus the psu could have something to do with it correct? I WOULD NOT think so as the MOBO has to regulate the memory voltage. If it was the PSU you'd likely see other symptoms.

 

[w00t]

uhhh.... tried booting my computer just now and it posted and booted up

wtf, is going on here

why would it post now but not before? I tried it a few times within like a 2min period

 

[chuckm]

If you decide to pick up a meter at the Shack, I'd go with this one;
http://www.radioshack.com/prod...rt=support&tab=summary

The continuity buzzer is nice feature that comes in handy for other things like heating elements,ect.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

i've been having similar problems with my ds3p & ballistix. i've seen 3 dimm's "not work" but that can also be the motherboard slot/slots. just too many variables with ram (along with other pc stuff) i'm in the process of testing one of my newly RMA'd sticks. heres my mini log:

install, boot into memtest86 v2.0, runs for 39 hours, NO ERRORS.
boot into windows, install some logitech software for my new mouse, normal pc usage for 2-3 hours, BSOD.
restart, boot into windows, run p95 and go to sleep. in the morning PC was frozen (desktop still there, cannot move mouse or see any movement in speedfan/p95) according to p95's worker threads it ran for about an hour.
restart, run HCI memtest, pass, 0 errors for 20 mins, 200% coverage.
run p95 again so far for 1.5 hours and so far nothing, except: i noticed that 2 threads are working MUCH slower than the other two, slow as in it doesn't advance from the first test for about an hour and since than i've only sen one of those two slower cores advance by 1 test... weird. but no red boxes so i'm good? i guess

 

[w00t]

memory dies :/

running 1GB now because the other 1GB stick died

 

[Gillbot]

My brother has been through more sticks of ballistix than I care to count.

 

[bryanl]

I would not operate at 2.2V since the maximum absolute voltage rating of the chips is just 2.3V.

Can any electrical engineer explain why so much Ballistix memory fails but other lines of memory from Micron do not? Is the default voltage of 2.2V the reason, or is there poor bypassing on the circuit boards or, worst of all, defective RAM chips?

 

[Gillbot]

more voltage means more heat, heat kills them.

I ran my firestix (which are D9 chips also) and I've never had an issue but I kept a fan on mine ALWAYS.