How is that even possible? The agreement was pulling out. How could he have broken that agreement before he even put it in?
The agreement was made before they started having sex. After they started, he informed her that he was going back on his word.
So in other words, you're agreeing with me that the agreement was broken after they started having sex.
So in other words, you're agreeing with me that the agreement was broken after they started having sex.
Is the morning after pill not available / legal in the UK?
Yes. And you're agreeing with the person you quoted.
She told him not to finish inside of her. She had sex with him on the condition that he would not do this....
Consensual sex can turn into rape (non-consensual).
Thats like a woman consenting to sex with you and then you force anal sex upon her against her will. That's rape.
He had no right to violate her like that. She said NO. And he forcibly finished inside of her anyway.
I said that he broke the agreement after they started. steve wilson said he broke the agreement before they started. How is that in any manner agreement?
He broke the agreement made before they started having sex.
So it's not okay for a guy to go back on his word of ejaculating in a girl because she doesn't want to get pregnant but it's okay for a girl to lie to a guy about being on birth control and end up getting pregnant? This is some serious bullshit.
And this sounds like a breach of contract instead of rape. Rape means not wanting to have sexual intercourse. She wanted the sex, just not the baby.
She told him not to finish inside of her. She had sex with him on the condition that he would not do this....
Consensual sex can turn into rape (non-consensual).
Thats like a woman consenting to sex with you and then you force anal sex upon her against her will. That's rape.
He had no right to violate her like that. She said NO. And he forcibly finished inside of her anyway.
Correct. These are both the exact same situation. A woman lying about using birth control introduces a foreign substance into your body without your consent.
Who said that? Link, please?
She wanted the sex to stop before he ejaculated. If he kept having sex with her at that point, it's rape. And probably breach of contract, too.
Whenever a guy gets a girl pregnant, the responsibility is his, even if she told him that she was on the pill or some sort of medical birth control and lied. No court would ever rule in the favor of a man and he will indeed be paying child support.
Rape wouldn't even come into the question.
No, he said:
He even clarified what he said, by providing an analogy in the next sentence. But you didn't read that carefully, did you?
It has everything to do with the story. The story is that the woman didn't want to get pregnant, not that she didn't want sex. So this isn't an act of rape. Just like if a guy doesn't want to get a girl pregnant but wants sex, he isn't raped either if the girl gets pregnant. It's as simple that. However, in the end, if pregnancy is a result, it is still both parties responsibility.
Not sure what's so confusing for you?
Well, it's grammatically ambiguous (I didn't read it that way), but...
Yes, it was. But the context should have cleared up any confusion you had.
Studies show that there is no sperm in pre-ejaculate. So if you do it correctly, pulling out can absolutely be an effective method.
And if a guy had sex with a woman ON THE CONDITION SHE WAS ON BC and she lied would anyone call that rape?
And if a guy had sex with a woman ON THE CONDITION SHE WAS ON BC and she lied would anyone call that rape?
What if he said something horrible to her during sex - 'your father and I had sex', 'I voted for Romney' - that makes her want him to stop - that does turn into rape.
And if a guy had sex with a woman ON THE CONDITION SHE WAS ON BC and she lied would anyone call that rape?