Men have softened as women have hardened

[eleison]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Women fall in love, get rejected, get hurt, feel like they have been misused too.

You can stop alot of getting crapped on by:

1. Stop being desparate. If it is not working out with a women let her go. The world will not end. There are alot of women of there. You will meet other women. There is no such thing as the perfect woman. Nobody is perfect. If you are waiting for someone who is perfect you will be waiting a long time. No matter who you meet you will be disapointed in them.

In general, girls disappoint me.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Women fall in love, get rejected, get hurt, feel like they have been misused too.

You can stop alot of getting crapped on by:

1. Stop being desparate. If it is not working out with a women let her go. The world will not end. There are alot of women of there. You will meet other women. There is no such thing as the perfect woman. Nobody is perfect. If you are waiting for someone who is perfect you will be waiting a long time. No matter who you meet you will be disapointed in them.

2. Stop being on the make. Women will let you know if they are interested in you. If she gives mixed or confusing signals. Step away from her. Go after women who are interested in you.

3. Do not take not being chosen personally. See 1.

4. Do not confuse looks with personality or sexiness. If you go by looks alone you will always be disapointed in the long run.

5. Do not try to buy her love or affection. Either she loves you or she doesn't.

Good advice!

 

[Fritzo]

I resent that...I'm a man and I'm hardened!


...and that's why I can't stand up from my desk right now

 

[absolu7]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Women fall in love, get rejected, get hurt, feel like they have been misused too.

You can stop alot of getting crapped on by:

1. Stop being desparate. If it is not working out with a women let her go. The world will not end. There are alot of women of there. You will meet other women. There is no such thing as the perfect woman. Nobody is perfect. If you are waiting for someone who is perfect you will be waiting a long time. No matter who you meet you will be disapointed in them.

In general, girls disappoint me.

american girls are the dissapointment.

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
6 billion people

3 billion women

500million aren't ugly

400million don't have serious STD

25 million you'd get along with

2.5 million you could be with

1 million you're compatible with in bed

100,000 you're willing to have a long term relationship

1000 you could have kids with

100 that think you're all the above

5 that you will ever meet.


So you get about 5 chances in your life to meet the ONE lol

you get that from seventeen?

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: absolu7

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick
Women fall in love, get rejected, get hurt, feel like they have been misused too.

You can stop alot of getting crapped on by:

1. Stop being desparate. If it is not working out with a women let her go. The world will not end. There are alot of women of there. You will meet other women. There is no such thing as the perfect woman. Nobody is perfect. If you are waiting for someone who is perfect you will be waiting a long time. No matter who you meet you will be disapointed in them.

In general, girls disappoint me.

american girls are the dissapointment.

6. Dont put women on pedestals.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
6 billion people

3 billion women

500million aren't ugly

400million don't have serious STD

25 million you'd get along with

2.5 million you could be with

1 million you're compatible with in bed

100,000 you're willing to have a long term relationship

1000 you could have kids with

100 that think you're all the above

5 that you will ever meet.


So you get about 5 chances in your life to meet the ONE lol

Define compatibility in bed???
Compatibility is more choice than fate... because if you go around saying...
Choice A (who is everyhting else you want in a partner, except she wont suck, swallow, anal, or whatever) is eliminated...your as much at fault as she is...
Thats complete BS...
relationships are about compromise, not about sex...

a good healthy sex life is not something you can compromise on. you have physical chemistry or you don't.

So basically what your saying is that sex is 1sided... if she cant satisfy all your wildest fantacies then hit the road???

This is where i completely disagree with every word you said...
your job is to satisfy your partners desires without worrying about your own... An unselfish partner is always the one who is most fullfilled... with an attitude like yours... you'll be lucky to ever find someone you can be with and stay with monogamously forever.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
I resent that...I'm a man and I'm hardened!


...and that's why I can't stand up from my desk right now

Stand up, walk around... be proud to be a man! :beer:

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
6 billion people

3 billion women

500million aren't ugly

400million don't have serious STD

25 million you'd get along with

2.5 million you could be with

1 million you're compatible with in bed

100,000 you're willing to have a long term relationship

1000 you could have kids with

100 that think you're all the above

5 that you will ever meet.


So you get about 5 chances in your life to meet the ONE lol

Where did you come up with this?

From deep within his own rectum.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
poontang rules all

You got that right...obviously the OP has never been in a serious relationship


Ausm

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: sao123
with an attitude like yours... you'll be lucky to ever find someone you can be with and stay with monogamously forever.

See thats one of the problems right there, society today is now completely different. It used to be that marriage was right, and monogamy was right. Marriage had a certain sanctity to it, and always did.

It doesn't anymore. People, and it is mostly guys, don't believe in marriage anymore. And women certainly don't beleive in monogamy either. And why should we believe in marriage? 50% of them end in divorce, and when they do the guy gets screwed over by the courts. Why should the guy want kids if he may never see them again. People are still so caught up that marriage is ohhhh soo forever, that they haven't stopped to realize that people have changed. And love isn't forever anymore. Personally I believe its been like that for a while, but marriages would last simply because it was wrong to want to get a divorce. The world we live in isn't meant for marriage and marriage isn't meant for modern society. One day marriage may be done away with entirely, thats the end result of when society has made. And personally, I think there are a lot of things to blame but namely fiminist groups that, have not only made women think they are equal (they are) but that they are actually better. Women weren't happy with being equal, they wanted all of the equality with one set of things in society, but still wanted the self entitlement and sense of superiority in the old traditional set of things. Sure, now they can have a job and still make as much as any guy can, but still wants the guy to pay for dinner. This is only one of a thousand examples I could list but don't wish to take the time.

And don't even get me started on whats wrong with raising kids under this new sub set we've established. Now women want to work AND have kids, and thus this new generation is getting raised by strangers. Parents no longer do the things they used to do, and its my personal beleif that things worked much better when parents raised there kids. Am I saying the women should stay at home? Maybe, I think things worked better that way for one thing. You can agree or not, because I'm not saying its black and white. Only that time will show everyone why parenting is so important. And chances are the future will prove that most kids will turn out a lot different when they grow up in day care and the like. You can't always have your cake and eat it too.

 

[absolu7]

ttt

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: SirChadwick
You can still do things w/ the guys, but remember that your fiancee/wife is the one you're living with forever - pretty much your lifelong best friend.

This made me LOL. Wait until you're married a few years, dude.

 

[gilligans]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
I agree with the OP. I'm single (been that way for 10 years) and I have no desire to even date, let alone "settle down." Haven't been on a single date in those 10 years. I'm 100% happy.

Gay?

 

[Stifko]

Betty Davis once said that there is no such thing as a hard woman, there are only soft men.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
If your like me, the thought of reading another YAGT makes you cringe. You cringe because you remember what it was like to be so weak and poor with women. To have your life decided in the hands of someone else. To let yourself go through the rollercoaster of emotions because you believed you were in love, only to be left all alone when it was over.

Am I saying we should go back to the caveman days and rape whatever women we please......not quite. But we shouldn't allow any woman to dictate our own happiness in life. If your happiness depends on having a woman in your life validating your status, then you will never be happy. It sounds cheesy, but happiness does come from within.

I think too many guys have a scarcity mentality when it comes to women. If I had a penny for every time I heard a guy say "I'll never find someone like her"........I'd have like 5 bucks. While it is true, you'll never find another one exactly like her, to foolishly believe you'll never find someone you really connect with on a deep level is just stupid. There are some 6 billion people on this planet, your odds are pretty good of finding many people you can really click with. If you can really adopt this mentality and internalize it as a belief you will be amazed at how much less reactive you will be towards women. And this is precisely what attracts women......guys that are unreactive to them.

I could go on, but that would require me writing cliffs so I'll stop here. For those wondering, this is what I think everytime I see another YAGT and I felt compelled to write this.

Pussification of America.

Is this phenomenom happening in Europe as well?

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: SirChadwick
You can still do things w/ the guys, but remember that your fiancee/wife is the one you're living with forever - pretty much your lifelong best friend.

This made me LOL. Wait until you're married a few years, dude.

Marriage is about commitment. A person can be your "best" friend through how you treat them and how much of a commitment you have to them. With that definition, your spouse is your "best" friend. Now, getting along with them all the time doesn't normally happen, but that happens with anyone you hang out with practically every day of your life. You eventually get tired of someof their nonsense, but again if the commitment is there the friendship sticks.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
6 billion people

3 billion women

500million aren't ugly

400million don't have serious STD

25 million you'd get along with

2.5 million you could be with

1 million you're compatible with in bed

100,000 you're willing to have a long term relationship

1000 you could have kids with

100 that think you're all the above

5 that you will ever meet.


So you get about 5 chances in your life to meet the ONE lol

Define compatibility in bed???
Compatibility is more choice than fate... because if you go around saying...
Choice A (who is everyhting else you want in a partner, except she wont suck, swallow, anal, or whatever) is eliminated...your as much at fault as she is...
Thats complete BS...
relationships are about compromise, not about sex...

a good healthy sex life is not something you can compromise on. you have physical chemistry or you don't.

So basically what your saying is that sex is 1sided... if she cant satisfy all your wildest fantacies then hit the road???

This is where i completely disagree with every word you said...
your job is to satisfy your partners desires without worrying about your own... An unselfish partner is always the one who is most fullfilled... with an attitude like yours... you'll be lucky to ever find someone you can be with and stay with monogamously forever.

I don't believe in that hollywood "happilly ever after" fairy tail. It hasn't been a realistic outcome since my grandparents generation.

So basically what your saying is that sex is 1sided... if she cant satisfy all your wildest fantacies then hit the road???

no im saying if the sex sucks it aint gonna work. i didnt say anything about wild kinky fantasy role playing.......thats what hookers are for.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: sao123
with an attitude like yours... you'll be lucky to ever find someone you can be with and stay with monogamously forever.

See thats one of the problems right there, society today is now completely different. It used to be that marriage was right, and monogamy was right. Marriage had a certain sanctity to it, and always did.

It doesn't anymore. People, and it is mostly guys, don't believe in marriage anymore. And women certainly don't beleive in monogamy either. And why should we believe in marriage? 50% of them end in divorce, and when they do the guy gets screwed over by the courts. Why should the guy want kids if he may never see them again. People are still so caught up that marriage is ohhhh soo forever, that they haven't stopped to realize that people have changed. And love isn't forever anymore. Personally I believe its been like that for a while, but marriages would last simply because it was wrong to want to get a divorce. The world we live in isn't meant for marriage and marriage isn't meant for modern society. One day marriage may be done away with entirely, thats the end result of when society has made. And personally, I think there are a lot of things to blame but namely fiminist groups that, have not only made women think they are equal (they are) but that they are actually better. Women weren't happy with being equal, they wanted all of the equality with one set of things in society, but still wanted the self entitlement and sense of superiority in the old traditional set of things. Sure, now they can have a job and still make as much as any guy can, but still wants the guy to pay for dinner. This is only one of a thousand examples I could list but don't wish to take the time.

And don't even get me started on whats wrong with raising kids under this new sub set we've established. Now women want to work AND have kids, and thus this new generation is getting raised by strangers. Parents no longer do the things they used to do, and its my personal beleif that things worked much better when parents raised there kids. Am I saying the women should stay at home? Maybe, I think things worked better that way for one thing. You can agree or not, because I'm not saying its black and white. Only that time will show everyone why parenting is so important. And chances are the future will prove that most kids will turn out a lot different when they grow up in day care and the like. You can't always have your cake and eat it too.

I agree society today is different... but I dont agree that it is necessarily better.

Your description of the world as it is today is accurate... however this viewpoint seems to illustrate that the more traditional conservative approach is more superior and at least on paper more successful... at fulfillment, child rearing, supporting the family structure...

Society developed an quenchable thirst for money, possessions, pleasure, & power. All of these things have ruined our culture and it will be our undoing.

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
6 billion people

3 billion women

500million aren't ugly

400million don't have serious STD

25 million you'd get along with

2.5 million you could be with

1 million you're compatible with in bed

100,000 you're willing to have a long term relationship

1000 you could have kids with

100 that think you're all the above

5 that you will ever meet.


So you get about 5 chances in your life to meet the ONE lol

Define compatibility in bed???
Compatibility is more choice than fate... because if you go around saying...
Choice A (who is everyhting else you want in a partner, except she wont suck, swallow, anal, or whatever) is eliminated...your as much at fault as she is...
Thats complete BS...
relationships are about compromise, not about sex...

a good healthy sex life is not something you can compromise on. you have physical chemistry or you don't.

So basically what your saying is that sex is 1sided... if she cant satisfy all your wildest fantacies then hit the road???

This is where i completely disagree with every word you said...
your job is to satisfy your partners desires without worrying about your own... An unselfish partner is always the one who is most fullfilled... with an attitude like yours... you'll be lucky to ever find someone you can be with and stay with monogamously forever.

I don't believe in that hollywood "happilly ever after" fairy tail. It hasn't been a realistic outcome since my grandparents generation.

So basically what your saying is that sex is 1sided... if she cant satisfy all your wildest fantacies then hit the road???

no im saying if the sex sucks it aint gonna work. i didnt say anything about wild kinky fantasy role playing.......thats what hookers are for.

Yup....

Sex can be bad and/or get boring. I had a gf that laid there like a dead fish, i liked her a lot, but the sex was so un-fun that it killed it for me.

You can have a good long term relationship with bad sex - but you'd better have a helluva relationship

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Originally posted by: Ausm

Originally posted by: chuckywang
poontang rules all

You got that right...obviously the OP has never been in a serious relationship


Ausm

I've been in several actually. Maybe that's why I come across as jaded?

Ironically the things you need to do to get laid are exactly the opposite of what you are probably doing right now. Most men write women off as too complicated to understand, OK some are, but in reality its just that we don't understand the way they see the world. Women react less on logic and more on emotions and feelings. Anyone who has ever tried to logically win an argument with a female knows this already.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: SirChadwick
You can still do things w/ the guys, but remember that your fiancee/wife is the one you're living with forever - pretty much your lifelong best friend.

This made me LOL. Wait until you're married a few years, dude.

If you're married and you're saying, with this post, that your wife isn't your best friend then you just need to divorce right now and let her get on with her life and be with her lifelong best friend. What is so "LOL" about the fact that your fiancee/wife will be your lifelong best friend? When me and my wife got married, she was my best friend then and is now (some 15 years later) and we were 21 when we married. She will be my best friend until the day I die. Why is that so "LOL"? Me, I think it's incredible that I (and many other married men/women) have that in their lives. Say what you want...having someone that I know completely and knows me completely makes any day, no matter how hard or stressful, end in an incredibly wonderful way. You keep your "LOL" attitude towards the lifelong best friend statement and you'll miss an aspect of your life that could be incredibly fulfilled. Just my $.02 worth coming from someone married for 15 years (this June) to their lifelong best friend.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan

If you're married and you're saying, with this post, that your wife isn't your best friend then you just need to divorce right now and let her get on with her life and be with her lifelong best friend. What is so "LOL" about the fact that your fiancee/wife will be your lifelong best friend? When me and my wife got married, she was my best friend then and is now (some 15 years later) and we were 21 when we married. She will be my best friend until the day I die. Why is that so "LOL"? Me, I think it's incredible that I (and many other married men/women) have that in their lives. Say what you want...having someone that I know completely and knows me completely makes any day, no matter how hard or stressful, end in an incredibly wonderful way. You keep your "LOL" attitude towards the lifelong best friend statement and you'll miss an aspect of your life that could be incredibly fulfilled. Just my $.02 worth coming from someone married for 15 years (this June) to their lifelong best friend.

You are the exception to the rule... marriage is not all its cracked up to be... IMHO, your attitude only confuses people; your line of thinking has probably ended many marriages. Everyone expects to marry their soul mate.. they expect their marriage will bring them untold volumes of happiness. it rarely, if ever happens; most of the time, at the end of the day, you only hope that the person you marry makes you happy 5% of the time, and they are bearable the last 95%. anything else is gravy.

That being said, I use to think about marriage as being something special.. not anymore. its about compromise.. however, at the end of it all.. when your lying on your death bed, looking back as a whole... yea... marriage would be nice only taken as a whole...

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Just pick one of the ones you connect with at random? How freaking miserable. Waking up next to a woman who could have been one of 3 billion woman, but that you settled on because of proximity or convenience. Do you put that in the wedding vows? :thumbsup:

It's not exactly "at random". Neither is it "fate". Both of those concepts are foolishly extreme. Yes, to a certain extent we do pick women out of "proximity or convenience", because those are the ones we meet...you included. But neither is it a coldly calculated decision, or a toss of the coin...your personalities have to mesh. I don't find that this viewpoint takes the magic out of love, just the self-delusion. Come on, for every single person on earth there is ONE perfect partner? Gimme a break. If life was truly that scripted, it would be a lot more exciting, and have a lot more car chases and witty dialog.

Originally posted by: eleison
You are the exception to the rule... marriage is not all its cracked up to be... IMHO, your attitude only confuses people; your line of thinking has probably ended many marriages. Everyone expects to marry their soul mate.. they expect their marriage will bring them untold volumes of happiness.

Or maybe he's just willing to work at his marriage?
I'm convinced that the majority of divorces are unnecessary, and only happen because one or both people aren't willing to put any real effort into it. It doesn't mean that marriage itself is broken, just that lazy, uncompromising bastards tend to fail at EVERY aspect of life

 

[AnthroAndStargate]

All of you that are complaining about this are single and angry. Quit blaming women for your own anti-social inability to achieve your hegemonic masculine ideal. Nubs.