Men of ATOT: Why didn't you serve?

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Leyawiin

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Nov 11, 2008
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I conveniently was born in the early Gen-X "war gap" so I didn't have to worry about it. Fit nicely between Vietnam and the Middle East foolishness.
 

JMapleton

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Nov 19, 2008
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I would gladly serve if I felt my life or the lives of my loved ones was in danger. I will however not be a pawn in a politicians game of Risk.

I like what Muhammad Ali once said about the Vietnam War, "No Vietcong ever called me a n-word."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd9aIamXjQI
 
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BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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I believe the same as you and stated as such that the goverment is corrupt but it doesnt change the need for protection for the american people. and as for a link you can go to YouTube and search libertarian protests stopped by vets etc
Son, I don't think you know what libertarians are.
 

Imp

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Feb 8, 2000
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I would gladly serve if I felt my life or the lives of my loved ones was in danger. I will however not be a pawn in a politicians game of Risk.

I like what Muhammad Ali once said about the Vietnam War,....

According to all the movies I've seen, they said a lot of:
"You die, G.I.!"
"Okay, soul brotha."
 

Six

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Feb 29, 2000
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I wanted to join the Marines. My dad vehemently opposed. He said killing another human being is nothing to be proud of like in the movies. He's got stories, but I cannot share his stories. He was a captain in the army working covert ops.
 

Craig234

Lifer
May 1, 2006
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I wanted to join the Marines. My dad vehemently opposed. He said killing another human being is nothing to be proud of like in the movies. He's got stories, but I cannot share his stories. He was a captain in the army working covert ops.

I like your dad.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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I don't think I want "Chinese Freedom." From what I've seen...it doesn't look very free.

American Freedom hasnt been that free since 1829 either. Especially to those who arent White Christians or live outside of America.
 

Nograts

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Dec 1, 2014
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Good god people. I didn't expect this kind of a response to a simple question, but I guess I have my answer. Half of you I now respect, I didn't realize we had as many veterans among us as we did. The other half I'm not sure. Seems like a lot of you tried but failed. That is honorable. The other half of the half I don't know. I suppose this life is too easy for you. There was no trial or tribulation for you to test your mettle.

I for one am determined to prove my manhood. I grabbed my balls, jumped into the fray, and tested my mettle against other men. Congratulations on your well paying office job, but I don't accept that. My ancestors got here by fighting. I am a fighter. I will continue to fight. And my sons will continue to fight. We only get one life, and I won't lay mine down sitting in some puffed up chair. Mine is going toe to toe with the best. I only wish it was a bit harder. Killing people in robes wasn't hard. You want my weapons?!

PERSIANS, COME AND GET THEM!!
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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Good god people. I didn't expect this kind of a response to a simple question, but I guess I have my answer. Half of you I now respect, I didn't realize we had as many veterans among us as we did. The other half I'm not sure. Seems like a lot of you tried but failed. That is honorable. The other half of the half I don't know. I suppose this life is too easy for you. There was no trial or tribulation for you to test your mettle.

I for one am determined to prove my manhood. I grabbed my balls, jumped into the fray, and tested my mettle against other men. Congratulations on your well paying office job, but I don't accept that. My ancestors got here by fighting. I am a fighter. I will continue to fight. And my sons will continue to fight. We only get one life, and I won't lay mine down sitting in some puffed up chair. Mine is going toe to toe with the best. I only wish it was a bit harder. Killing people in robes wasn't hard. You want my weapons?!

PERSIANS, COME AND GET THEM!!

So what do you think of the Spartans compared to the Romans or Athenians?
 

Nograts

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Dec 1, 2014
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So what do you think of the Spartans compared to the Romans or Athenians?

I think our ancestors regardless of heritage would be rolling in their graves. Life is too easy for everyone, there is no struggle and no honor. Nobody has to try anymore. It is all political correctness and bullshit. You just have to breathe to survive these days.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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I think our ancestors regardless of heritage would be rolling in their graves. Life is too easy for everyone, there is no struggle and no honor. Nobody has to try anymore. It is all political correctness and bullshit. You just have to breathe to survive these days.

Ok. That would be a broad issue, actually several broad issues.

As for Spartans, I dont get why so many people look up to them, Romans and Athenians were far more powerful and advanced. Although I am not surprised that those individuals do look up to Spartans. I wonder if they know that Spartan women had more autonomy and power than other women in some neighboring cultures? Maybe they might stop loving Spartans if they knew that?
 

Mayne

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Apr 13, 2014
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me and my brother used to scrap it out with the army assholes every weekend at this bar in Calgary. Something about them pissed us off. I did sign up to put out oil fires in kuwait but didn't get accepted...damn it would of been good money.
 

TheSlamma

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Sep 6, 2005
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So what do you think of the Spartans compared to the Romans or Athenians?
They had sex with 12 year old boys and thanks to Hollywood, idiots who have no clue of history think they were all 6ft tall 220lb beef cakes.

They were also average at best fighters man to man, where the Spartans were superior was in phalanx. Thermopylae also had 7000 other Greeks there.

When the gun/military nuts references "molon labe" to me they might as well be saying "yeeeeeeee haaaawwwww"

So yeah I agree with your other post, I think if people really knew them they wouldn't reference them so much.
 
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