Mental Illness?

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: spidey07

oh my...

Take some pscyh classes. google congitive therapy (you'll understand once you learn about it and won't spout such nonsense as you do). Repeat after me - cogitive therapy, this is not some new thing. Learn some while you are at it. Go google some to learn because I'm not gonna give you a phd in psych or summarize a psych101 class for you.

What most you're off-target on mental illness is a complete misunderstanding of the mind. I understand, you're young...you know it all, no harm can come to you. Chances are you WILL face depression at some point in your life.

-edit-
I catch your troll.

I have been depressed...and guess what...? Things sorted out. I was able to think heavily about why I was depressed and sleep on it for a couple weeks and everything worked out okay...without medication.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: spidey07

oh my...

Take some pscyh classes. google congitive therapy (you'll understand once you learn about it and won't spout such nonsense as you do). Repeat after me - cogitive therapy, this is not some new thing. Learn some while you are at it. Go google some to learn because I'm not gonna give you a phd in psych or summarize a psych101 class for you.

What most you're off-target on mental illness is a complete misunderstanding of the mind. I understand, you're young...you know it all, no harm can come to you. Chances are you WILL face depression at some point in your life.

-edit-
I catch your troll.

I have been depressed...and guess what...? Things sorted out. I was able to think heavily about why I was depressed and sleep on it for a couple weeks and everything worked out okay...without medication.

That's fine. Go a year or more without things getting better, in fact things start getting worse. It's easy to say just snap out of it when you haven't experienced real depression. Being down for a little while doesn't count. For some people it is a massive hole that they just simply cannot pull themselves out of.

 

[BlancoNino]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
That's fine. Go a year or more without things getting better, in fact things start getting worse. It's easy to say just snap out of it when you haven't experienced real depression. Being down for a little while doesn't count. For some people it is a massive hole that they just simply cannot pull themselves out of.

Hmmm...school wasn't going so well the past few years...I was dumped by two girls that were very serious relationships (no, not the one I was just with that I posted about in off topic), my family is moving away, my friends have moved away....death of a loved one. Wow, looks like things DID get worse...but I was never that unhappy. I got an A on an english paper I wrote about happiness. I believe people run away from the things that make them depressed instead of facing them optomistically...and if they keep doing that...they dig themselves into a much deeper hole of depression.

 

[dmcowen674]

Death Race 2000

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
That's fine. Go a year or more without things getting better, in fact things start getting worse. It's easy to say just snap out of it when you haven't experienced real depression. Being down for a little while doesn't count. For some people it is a massive hole that they just simply cannot pull themselves out of.

Hmmm...school wasn't going so well the past few years...I was dumped by two girls that were very serious relationships (no, not the one I was just with that I posted about in off topic), my family is moving away, my friends have moved away....death of a loved one. Wow, looks like things DID get worse...but I was never that unhappy. I got an A on an english paper I wrote about happiness. I believe people run away from the things that make them depressed instead of facing them optomistically...and if they keep doing that...they dig themselves into a much deeper hole of depression.

You keep trying to equate depression with bad things happening to people, and yes that can be a trigger but depression is much more than that. You can have a seemingly happy person with no financial woes, no one died, loving relationship etc and have that person slip into depression. Depression is not the same thing as being sad about something.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
That's fine. Go a year or more without things getting better, in fact things start getting worse. It's easy to say just snap out of it when you haven't experienced real depression. Being down for a little while doesn't count. For some people it is a massive hole that they just simply cannot pull themselves out of.

Hmmm...school wasn't going so well the past few years...I was dumped by two girls that were very serious relationships (no, not the one I was just with that I posted about in off topic), my family is moving away, my friends have moved away....death of a loved one. Wow, looks like things DID get worse...but I was never that unhappy. I got an A on an english paper I wrote about happiness. I believe people run away from the things that make them depressed instead of facing them optomistically...and if they keep doing that...they dig themselves into a much deeper hole of depression.

There is strong evidence that exogenously caused depression (things happen in your life) which lasts long enough can cause endogenous depression (a chemical imbalance in your brain).
Let's not mix apples and oranges. Depression is different from schizophrenia. If you are depressed you still recognize what is going on in the world around you. With schizophrenia you cannot distinguish reality from what your brain is telling you is happening.

 

[Moonbeam]

There are probably numerous kinds of depression and some of them are definitely chemical since some people for whom life is black become quite normal on meds. I think for the vast majority of depressed people, however, the cause is repressed emotions. Depression is the emptiness caused by lack of feeling and lack of feeling isn't lack of feelings, but the suppression of consciousness of them. We hate emotion, people who are emotional, and any dealing with the complexity and confusion caused by feeling. We also deeply repress our own enormous self hate. Because we are terrified of negative feelings we don't have any positive ones either. Depressed periods in life, usually in youth before we become expert at being dead, are caused by negative experiences that trigger these buried feelings and stir them up. The pain of depression is the exhaustive effort to then re-suppress them.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
That's fine. Go a year or more without things getting better, in fact things start getting worse. It's easy to say just snap out of it when you haven't experienced real depression. Being down for a little while doesn't count. For some people it is a massive hole that they just simply cannot pull themselves out of.

Hmmm...school wasn't going so well the past few years...I was dumped by two girls that were very serious relationships (no, not the one I was just with that I posted about in off topic), my family is moving away, my friends have moved away....death of a loved one. Wow, looks like things DID get worse...but I was never that unhappy. I got an A on an english paper I wrote about happiness. I believe people run away from the things that make them depressed instead of facing them optomistically...and if they keep doing that...they dig themselves into a much deeper hole of depression.

Im sure you are going to bring fantastic new information to the field of psychology, with the "Thinking happy thoughts cured me of depression, so its going to work for you" theory.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
That's fine. Go a year or more without things getting better, in fact things start getting worse. It's easy to say just snap out of it when you haven't experienced real depression. Being down for a little while doesn't count. For some people it is a massive hole that they just simply cannot pull themselves out of.

Hmmm...school wasn't going so well the past few years...I was dumped by two girls that were very serious relationships (no, not the one I was just with that I posted about in off topic), my family is moving away, my friends have moved away....death of a loved one. Wow, looks like things DID get worse...but I was never that unhappy. I got an A on an english paper I wrote about happiness. I believe people run away from the things that make them depressed instead of facing them optomistically...and if they keep doing that...they dig themselves into a much deeper hole of depression.

Im sure you are going to bring fantastic new information to the field of psychology, with the "Thinking happy thoughts cured me of depression, so its going to work for you" theory.

Actually that is somewhat true according to the latest evidence. If a person is placed in a "happy" environment and led to do pleasurable things it can change a persons brain chemistry if they have endogenous (originating from inside the body, i.e. chemical imbalance) if the depression has not gone on too long.
For exogenously(things that happen in your life) depressed people it does help them to focus on more positve things and can relieve depression.
Most competent Psychiatrists should be prescribing "fun" for patients who have a first occurence of mild depression. Unfortunately they just love to write prescriptions.

 

[Legend]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
That's fine. Go a year or more without things getting better, in fact things start getting worse. It's easy to say just snap out of it when you haven't experienced real depression. Being down for a little while doesn't count. For some people it is a massive hole that they just simply cannot pull themselves out of.

Hmmm...school wasn't going so well the past few years...I was dumped by two girls that were very serious relationships (no, not the one I was just with that I posted about in off topic), my family is moving away, my friends have moved away....death of a loved one. Wow, looks like things DID get worse...but I was never that unhappy. I got an A on an english paper I wrote about happiness. I believe people run away from the things that make them depressed instead of facing them optomistically...and if they keep doing that...they dig themselves into a much deeper hole of depression.

Im sure you are going to bring fantastic new information to the field of psychology, with the "Thinking happy thoughts cured me of depression, so its going to work for you" theory.

I think both sides of the argument have good points.

Some people are likely depressed because their nutrition is terrible. Many Americans and people in 1st world nations eat a lot of processed foods with very little naturals foods. The lack of nutrients found in their diets, and the massive amounts of sugars, trans fats, and saturated fats may be causing problems that encourage depression.

However, many people may be born with a disorder, so we shouldn't go around judging people.

 

[Future Shock]

Originally posted by: BlancoNino

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: BlancoNino
I honestly believe that most people are depressed because they aren't living their lives to the full potential.

I'm willing to bet the vast majority of "depressed" people don't eat a balanced diet, don't get enough excercise, and don't treat other people enthusiastically and respectively. I'm also willing to bet that a lot of depressed people are just rotten people who do bad things. For some reason, we decide to medicate all of these people.

I honestly believe that people who judge others based on their illnesses do so out of ignorance and an inner sense of self-doubt.

I'm willing to bet the vast majority of these creeps don't eat a balanced diet, don't get enough exercise, and don't treat others, who they perceive as weak or otherwise defective, respectfully. I'm also willing to bet that a lot of the sanctimonious pricks who behave this way are just rotten people who do bad things.

I know quite a few people on prozac. Let me name some of the qualities they have...and yes, I've done my homework on them too. I ask a lot of questions.

1) They all drink
2) Some smoke pot
3) All are addicted to coffee
4) All regularly eat fast food
5) None get enough exercise

...That's just to name a few.

Uhh, yeah. The only problem is that I think you are confusing cause and effect - totally. Most people that are depressed also lack coping mechanisms, which is why they drink to mask the symptoms of depression. Pot smoking I can't comment on, never done it. Being depressed makes you FEEL incredibly lethargic and tired all of the time - so of course they end up drinking a lot of coffee. Your fast food comment is off the mark, I know LOTS of depressed people that eat relatively good diets. And frankly, when you are constantly tired and lethargic from depression, going for a 2 mile run sounds about as much fun as walking on broken glass...(yes, excersize can help you shake mild depression, but for someone who is terribly depressed it is almost excrutiating to do)

So I don't doubt that many of your friends with depression have these other behaviours...I just think you don't know enough about the disease to understand the way it plays out in people's behaviours, and have thus massacred cause and effect...

Future Shock