Mercora - why you will need this. (Oh, and did I mention "Free"? - for now)

RideFree

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Mercora
Soon to be about as ubiquitous as Micro$oft, but probably you will not $pend much, if anything.
Mercora = "Sliced bread?"
 

RideFree

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Just because I wore out a record, does that mean I have to pay for it again?
 

mscdex0

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I tried mercora out about a month ago. I uninstalled it because it seemed like there was just too many people on there who had absolutely crappy upload speed (hence the skipping and whatnot). It's a good idea, but then again with a free p2p service like this you "run the risk" of having dialup or users with only 128kb/s upload, etc.,etc. streaming audio.

My $2
 

VTHodge

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hmmm . . . this doesn't sound the least bit interesting to me.
Sliced bread? No.
That weird blue ketchup thing a couple of years ago? That's closer.
 

konakona

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i tried it, and never found an effective way to organize my music. it appeared to be attempting to make use of mp3 id tags at no avail. why cant they just let the user choose how to group their files (ie just go by the directory structure)? one of the crappiest interfaces i have seen in a while btw.
 

RideFree

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I have not tried it, nor will I as yet.
I made the mistake of trying Windoze v.1 and while it was intriguing, it was a dog in it's infancy. I suspect that it will be the same with Mercora.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: emeraldsky
"Mercora behaves like radio, so you can only get access to music that is currently being broadcast on the network (just like radio). Furthermore, you cannot search for specific sound recordings (songs), even if they are currently being broadcast."

That kills it for me.

Ummm...i just downloaded it. I can search for anything I want to listen to.
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: RideFree
I have not tried it, nor will I as yet.
I made the mistake of trying Windoze v.1 and while it was intriguing, it was a dog in it's infancy. I suspect that it will be the same with Mercora.

Trust me....just installed it. It kicks @$$
 

Chadder007

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Can you find Begin the Beguine?

What the heck is that?....nothing shows up. Everything else Ive personally searched for has shown up something though that I could play.
 

RideFree

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Google it. Was an Artie Shaw hit back in the late 30's. Revived again in the mid 40's.
The right version was a killer...I think it may have been Helen O'Connell
 

emeraldsky

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Originally posted by: Chadder007
Ummm...i just downloaded it. I can search for anything I want to listen to.
Thanks. I just installed it and you're right. I don't know why they lie and say you can't search.

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Just because I wore out a record, does that mean I have to pay for it again?

Yeah, since it is about the IPR, once you buy the IPR, why isn't it yours for life?

 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: RideFree
Just because I wore out a record, does that mean I have to pay for it again?

Yeah, since it is about the IPR, once you buy the IPR, why isn't it yours for life?
Once more, in English, please - for the vinyly challenged.

 

cmccrkn

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: RideFree
Just because I wore out a record, does that mean I have to pay for it again?

Yeah, since it is about the IPR, once you buy the IPR, why isn't it yours for life?
Once more, in English, please - for the vinyly challenged.

IPR = Intellectual Property Rights. Was that the question?
 

emeraldsky

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Originally posted by: RideFree
Just because I wore out a record, does that mean I have to pay for it again?

You don't have to buy the music again if you were smart enough to back it up on tape or CD or MP3, etc. Do you expect somebody else to replace something you've ruined?
 

Robor

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"Can I share music files on the network through peer-to-peer downloads?

No. We are not a music downloading service and you will not be able to download music files from other's computers. However, you can listen to others' music through webcasting (streaming)."


So you can search for music and listen to it if you find it but can't save it? If that's the case I really don't think this thing will be that big of a success.
 

Slappy00

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i am using it right now, its very good. Better than winamp or paying for Musicmatch. As for "keeping" what you hear there are various methods to rip streams for those with that kind of inclanation. I just use it as it was supposed to be used, and its very high quality and dependable. Good stuff and legal
 

VirtualLarry

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Wow. I don't buy any of those claims listed in the TH article. For example, "Once you install the client, it sets out to locate the MP3s that are on your hard drive, and begins broadcasting the songs across the Internet." - ok, not legal, without a license for "public" broadcasting of that copyrighted material.

"Mercora gets around the issues of other music sharing services like Kazaa and Morpheus because MP3 files do not get transferred across the Internet: it is strictly a real-time streaming service. "We own the end-to-end encoding of the stream so we can ensure its security," said Sampath."

I don't care if they own the IP over the encoding format used, but the data, as streamed, would most likely be considered both a public broadcast as well as a derivative work of the original work.

So, who wants to start the pool, for how long before this service gets "investigated" like that Russian MP3 site, or simply shut down?

Best that I can figure is that this could be legal if they pay for a compulsory radio music broadcast license, but how will they pay the royalties/fees on that, if they are offering the service for free? And based on the terms of that license, can it even be applied to the end-users who are effectively the actual "broadcasters"? I just don't buy that this thing will work out. That Canadian TV streaming site was supposedly legal according to the laws up there too, but it eventually got shut down regardless.

I would be as careful participating in this scheme, as I would if I were theoretically sharing MP3s over the internet with Kazaa. You never know if the RIAA is likewise recording IPs, in case they eventually raid this place too, and then turn around and launch suits against the users whos IPs they logged.
 

emeraldsky

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They say they have the proper licensing for legal broadcasting. It's unlikely that you will get sued for letting someone listen to a song on your computer, especially since you are only following their advice that what you are doing is legal.
In my opinion, the quality is not good enough to make it worth recording what you listen to.
You can search for songs, but you can only find the songs that are being broadcast at that moment.
Frankly, the whole thing is a little frustrating. They only show you 100 songs at a time, and as you are reviewing the list, the songs are changing. So you double-click on a song only to find out a few seconds later (after a connection is established and a cache is created), that a different song is now being broadcast by that person.
You can search by genre, but then the list keeps changing quite quickly making it very hard to choose a song to play.
Still, it is kind of easy to find songs by some artists that you aren't familiar with. And it's a new toy, so it's worth playing with it until you get tired of it.
 
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