Meryl Streep speech at Golden Globes

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fskimospy

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Although she's one of the most privileged human beings on this planet, Meryl Streep has cast herself and her ilk as victims and one of the "most vilified segments in American society right now". You can't make this shit up...an epic level of self-delusion we're dealing with here.

Or your epic inability to get a joke.
 

zinfamous

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Well, see that was sort of a joke she made (of which many people laughed). Here's the full quote:



You see, the Golden Globes are put on by The Hollywood Foreign Press. So she was dong a little world play to lighten the mood and set the stage. And certainly, you can't deny that Hollywood (as demonstrated by this thread), Foreigners and the Press (aka the "liberal MSM") are not currently being vilified (justified or not)

I think DSF writes his own jokes. He doesn't know they are jokes, but they are.
 

momeNt

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Mixed martial arts - which are not the arts.

The very definition contradicts you Meryl! Why not just say Football and Baseball or something? Why use one that had the word art in it? And is very much an art.
 

FIVR

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While I do agree with you assessment on his taste sucking, are you sure this is the ONE thing you would change?


There are too many other large, impactful issues to pick from. If I took away his racism, he'd arguably maintain his xenophobia and propensity for sexual molestation, or his love of tyrants and re-tweeting Mussolini quotes.... so I will pick the issue that bothers me every day... every time I see his goons standing outside those god-awful golden elevators or Kellyanne Conway's skeletor face in front of some hideous painting or decor I want to puke.
 
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Homerboy

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Mixed martial arts - which are not the arts.

The very definition contradicts you Meryl! Why not just say Football and Baseball or something? Why use one that had the word art in it? And is very much an art.

There is a significnat difference between something being "an art" and something belonging to "the arts"
"The arts" are ususally considered to be:
Literature, painting, sculpture and music
 

Homerboy

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There are too many other large, impactful issues to pick from. If I took away his racism, he'd arguably maintain his xenophobia and propensity for sexual molestation, or his love of tyrants and re-tweeting Mussolini quotes.... so I will pick the issue that bothers me every day... every time I see his goons standing outside those god-awful golden elevators or Kellyanne Conway's skeletor face in front of some hideous painting or decor I want to puke.

You will get no argument from me.
 

momeNt

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There is a significnat difference between something being "an art" and something belonging to "the arts"
"The arts" are ususally considered to be:
Literature, painting, sculpture and music

It sounds clumsy. That's all. I feel like she could have spent more time working on her speech.
 
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Homerboy

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It sounds clumsy. That's all. I feel like she could have spent more time working on her speech.

That part wasn't the most elegant I agree. But the lines that framed that little blurb were well stated:

Hollywood is crawling with outsiders and foreigners. If you kick 'em all out, you'll have nothing to watch but football and mixed martial arts, which are not the arts. They gave me three seconds to say this. An actor's only job is to enter the lives of people who are different from us and let you feel what that feels like. And there were many, many, many powerful performances this year that did exactly that, breathtaking, passionate work.

And I think the latter goes against those saying "actors need to shut up and do their jobs".
Well their JOBS are specifically to entertain and, to Streep's point, show us lives of other people -- not the ones in a Michael Bay film, but those lives of people that have lived (or are living) different lives from ourselves so that we might, even if for 90 mins walk in their shoes and get a better perspective of what they have/had to go through -- their struggles and triumphs.
 

zinfamous

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It sounds clumsy. That's all. I feel like she could have spent more time working on her speech.

fair enough. I think most would consider martial arts an art, but Homer Boy is correct.

It sounded awkward to me, but she was speaking to her peeps, who pretty much swim in "the arts." But this is what these award shows always are: these people talking to themselves and praising themselves. Complaining about things that anger themselves. Every AA thread every year sees the same complaints about celebrities praising themselves and awarding only movies that they like (which, is funny, considering the general mandate of The Academy, but whatever) and how stupid and self-indulgent these shows are. Well, of course they are. That's why they exist.
 
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And you have nothing but the claims of rhe msm to back you up. There are numerous videos of him doing the same thing to describe non disabled people. Yet you don't accept any. That's because you are the one who ate lead paint chips.

Haha, you are easily duped. The only similarity there is that he raised his hands in the air. By that definition nobody has ever mocked a disabled person in human history because, hey, at one point or another these paragons of maturity waved their hands in the air to describe being tired or flustered once! Disproven!

But you do you LK, defending man children too mentally unbalanced to respect the disabled.
 

momeNt

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you should enlighten her. I'm sure her limited experience in this area would only appreciate what you'd bring to the table.

You are a feisty one. It was clumsy, that's all.

Trevor Noah didn't like that portion of the speech in its entirety. She was trying to be inclusive yet bashed NFL and MMA for really no reason.

“I understand what Meryl Streep was trying to do, and I don’t know if I could’ve done better in that moment, but here’s the thing I feel like we could all learn as people,” Noah said. “You don’t have to make your point by shitting on someone else’s thing, because a lot of people love football and the arts.”
 
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You are a feisty one. It was clumsy, that's all.

Trevor Noah didn't like that portion of the speech in its entirety. She was trying to be inclusive yet bashed NFL and MMA for really no reason.
and it's very courteous of you to offer your insight into her ineffectual speaking manner.
 

momeNt

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That part wasn't the most elegant I agree. But the lines that framed that little blurb were well stated:



And I think the latter goes against those saying "actors need to shut up and do their jobs".
Well their JOBS are specifically to entertain and, to Streep's point, show us lives of other people -- not the ones in a Michael Bay film, but those lives of people that have lived (or are living) different lives from ourselves so that we might, even if for 90 mins walk in their shoes and get a better perspective of what they have/had to go through -- their struggles and triumphs.

They do that by doing their job. It's also arguable that by speaking up afterwards, they may obfuscate the intended message of whoever inspirational they were trying to portray. Not sure if it exists in reality, but it would be like if they made a movie about a journalist in Darfur, and then the actor had a louder voice or became more outspoken about Darfur than the journalist. That would be ironic.

The alternative is when you get big actors/actresses that throw their name/production behind a story and actually give it a bigger voice than it would have otherwise had because they think people need to hear about it.
 

Starbuck1975

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There is a significnat difference between something being "an art" and something belonging to "the arts"
"The arts" are ususally considered to be:
Literature, painting, sculpture and music
You forgot basket weaving, impressionist dance, miming and puppet theater. How dare you impose your cis-artist privilege on me!!!
 

momeNt

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You forgot basket weaving, impressionist dance, miming and puppet theater. How dare you impose your cis-artist privilege on me!!!

the term "cis" is on its way out in my opinion. As its commonly used "cisgender" it imposes a normative gender experience on everybody not identifying as trans. Gender experience lies along a spectrum and a single word can't capture that complexity. It's a two dimensional spectrum along sex and gender. Incredibly complicated and cis fails miserably in capturing that.
 

HTFOff

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There should never be a 17 page thread on golden balls or pikabo streep, ever. Shame on all of you. And shame on me for posting this.

- the thread ombudsman
 

Bitek

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I am telling Trumpets that I am "OK" with their explanation. In the end, they have really "reached deep" into their "hearts" and have retrieved an impressive nugget.. of truth.
 

LegendKiller

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Haha, you are easily duped. The only similarity there is that he raised his hands in the air. By that definition nobody has ever mocked a disabled person in human history because, hey, at one point or another these paragons of maturity waved their hands in the air to describe being tired or flustered once! Disproven!

But you do you LK, defending man children too mentally unbalanced to respect the disabled.
And you are easily duped into thinking a guy whose family is part Jewish and has shown nothing but complete adoration to Jews would hire bannon, a supposed jew hater. And then there is sessions, who was borked, who has championed civil rights and was "honored" by booker but is now hated by him.

You believe what the media tells you to.
 

LegendKiller

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This was covered 10 pgs ago when compushiz linked the same thing.

It wasn't serious then and still isn't now. Sad day when super PACs and Facebook pages count as news sources.
Video proof is video proof. Same arm motions, same context, same facial expressions...etc, different people.
 
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