Mexican Cartels > Los Ramones Police: Entire police force in Los Ramones, Mexico quit

[amdhunter]

Instead of bombing all the innocent people in Iraq...I'd use some of those missles to bomb the dipshits in Mexico who are most likely secluded from the public, and growing all this crap.

 

[Nintendesert]

ROFL!! You're a complete idiot. WTF cares what you wrote in a lameass college paper 16 years ago? You were wrong then and you are wrong now. You said, and I quote "the vast majority of the money is in cocaine." That's wrong Zippy. What part of this confuses you? 60% of the cartels profits are pot, 40% EVERYTHING ELSE. Please explain the level of brain damage necessary to get you to believe that less than 40% is a "vast majority". Let me explain this to you in simple, single-syllable words so that you can understand it: The drug dudes make MUCH more cash off pot than off coke. With no pot sold they make MUCH less cash. The End. Got it?

Says you. You offer no sources but yet personally attack him. His take on the situation is every bit as valid as you feel yours is. Maybe he consulted "experts" too.

 

[Whisper]

Says you. You offer no sources but yet personally attack him. His take on the situation is every bit as valid as you feel yours is. Maybe he consulted "experts" too.

While I wouldn't at all be surprised to hear that pot accounts for a large (estimated) proportion of the Mexican cartels' income, I too would be interested in knowing from where these 60/40 figures are coming.

Also, even if pot were legalized, I have a feeling that trafficking in it would still occur. It'd likely be reduced, sure, but stolen and/or trafficked goods are always going to offer bigger profits than those transported via legal means.

Beyond that, should marijuana profits be reduced, I'm quite certain that without proper law enforcement in place to dissuade them, the cartels would simply move on to something else, or would increase their efforts in existing areas. Likely one of the reasons they earn so much (purported) money from pot is that I'd imagine the overhead is low, the expertise required to produce it is minimal, and the facilities are already in place. Without marijuana, who knows, maybe they'd drastically beef up their meth and prescription drug production and sales. It's not like the Italian mafia suddenly disappeared once prohibition ended.

 

[Ns1]

Without marijuana, who knows, maybe they'd drastically beef up their meth and prescription drug production and sales. It's not like the Italian mafia suddenly disappeared once prohibition ended.

demand same + supply up = lower prices = lower profit

 

[bfdd]

Seriously if Mexico won't do anything to protect itself and its citizens from these gangs, we should because it's starting to filter over to our side of the border. Fuck Mexico's claim to sovereignty when they allow gangs to do whatever the fuck they want. We should send small teams down to kill them all.

 

[Whisper]

demand same + supply up = lower prices = lower profit

Two things:

1) If marijuana were legalized, I'm almost certain the demand for it would increase significantly

2) As said in my post, and in the portion you quoted, with marijuana legalized and profits potentially reduced, the cartels would likely simply move on to another more-profitable venture, just as the mafia did once liquor was no longer a major revenue stream

 

[Ns1]

Two things:

1) If marijuana were legalized, I'm almost certain the demand for it would increase significantly

Debatable. If heroin were legalized tomorrow I wouldn't jab needles in my arm. That said, so what if it does?

2) As said in my post, and in the portion you quoted, with marijuana legalized and profits potentially reduced, the cartels would likely simply move on to another more-profitable venture, just as the mafia did once liquor was no longer a major revenue stream

Yeah and the mafia is SUPER relevant in today's society

see replies above.

 

[Whisper]

see replies above.

If heroin were legalized, then yes, I'd argue that the demand for it would increase. But at the same time, more people use marijuana than use heroin, and the attached stigma, as well as the associated health risks, are much less severe.

So are you implying that if marijuana were legalized, the cartels would disappear, or would at least be significantly reduced in number? If so, I disagree.

 

[Ns1]

So are you implying that if marijuana were legalized, the cartels would disappear, or would at least be significantly reduced in number? If so, I disagree.

The only thing I'm willing to be quoted as saying is that I think it's a better approach then what we're doing right now.

 

[Whisper]

The only thing I'm willing to be quoted as saying is that I think it's a better approach then what we're doing right now.

I'd agree that with respect to marijuana, given the non-violent nature of many imprisoned "pot-only" offenders in the U.S., that legalization would help to significantly reduce strain on the legal system.

However, I'm also of the opinion that legalization of marijuana would unfortunately have a very limited effect on drug cartels in Mexico. That's just my opinion, though.

 

[phantomSquad]

Mexico is fucked up!

 

[Eli]

Of course it will. They have ONE potential income source. Deny them that and what exactly do they use to buy their army? It's not like they're going to make enough to run an entire country on the backs of selling pinatas to tourists.

Cocaine, heroin, meth, etc are all worth a LOT more than marijuana. The only thing marijuana has going for it in that regards is that, well, it's a weed and it grows like one.

We would have to legalize all drugs for this to really have an impact.

And even then, it may not, as there are plenty of other countries with drug laws.

Edit: I do not believe your 60/40 figure. Where did you come up with that?

I haven't even heard of any Mexican schwag floating around in like 10 years. Who's buying it all? Certainly not any stoners I know... lol.