Mexican coke and Cuban cigars

Dari

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So, I'm currently in Mexico and I've heard great things about the coke here. It turns out that people are right. It's a lot smoother than the one I'm used to. Must be the real sugar.

Also, there are countless vendors in Playa del Carmen and Cancun, where I am staying, offering Cuban cigars. Are they legit? How can I confirm? I don't smoke the stuff but I know several people that would love some. Is it legal to bring them into the United States?
 

zerocool84

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Nov 11, 2004
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It's not the real sugar, it's actually the Mexican water. Everything you eat will come out smooth as well because of it.
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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The only coke I sample in Mexico is Peruvian, and you dont need a vendor when everything you need is in la pharmacia.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Also, there are countless vendors in Playa del Carmen and Cancun, where I am staying, offering Cuban cigars. Are they legit? How can I confirm? I don't smoke the stuff but I know several people that would love some. Is it legal to bring them into the United States?


Sure they're legit. Buy lots and lots, pay anything. Just bribe the customs agents with offers of sex. You'll have no trouble.
 

norseamd

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Dec 13, 2013
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He's tried "Cuban" cigars made from tobacco farmed in Mexico, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, etc… and he says they don't taste the same. He said it has something to do with the land.

the wrapper make up most of the taste. the taste depends on a number of factors like where it was grown and the weather and the nutrition the plant got
 

mmntech

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Sep 20, 2007
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Who knows. You can buy Cuban cigars are widely available in the lands of not-America. You can buy them in most smoke shops up here as well.

I'm actually off to Cuba next week. Trips there are pretty cheap.
 
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why should cigars from a store in cancun not be the real thing? it´s not like they´re being embargoed in mexico. it has to be the cuban state company cohiba, i think there are none else for export
 

norseamd

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I'm actually off to Cuba next week. Trips there are pretty cheap.

technically you can travel there but not spend any money there. some americans like to convert their money to another currency before traveling to cuba. and then when you are in cuba you can convert that money into cuban money. or you could do it before. not sure what the legality of it is though
 

Dr. Detroit

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Unless you go to an actual cigar store and research the labels - then no, they are not real.

You are better off just buying a premium Dominican cigar in the US. Or hop a plane from Cancun to Cuba - $350 round trip.
 

waggy

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Sure they're legit. Buy lots and lots, pay anything. Just bribe the customs agents with offers of sex. You'll have no trouble.

ohh good idea. And if Dari knocks one up? he already knows how to whip up a cocktail to kill the unborn baby!
 

Dari

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I gotta say, the weather here is excellent compared to the dreariness I left in New York. But, man, the food is terrible. Not a big fan of Mexican seafood. And every meal comes with tortilla chips and some type of flat bread that smells funny. Not a fan.
 

JManInPhoenix

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Mexican cokes are bomb. The only time I drink coke anymore is when I go to Mexico. You can also get Mexican cokes at Costco here in Phoenix.
 

feralkid

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I gotta say, the weather here is excellent compared to the dreariness I left in New York. But, man, the food is terrible. Not a big fan of Mexican seafood. And every meal comes with tortilla chips and some type of flat bread that smells funny. Not a fan.



That's called a corn tortilla. It's the same thing as the chip, but not deep fried.








noob!
 

Wreckem

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Mexican cokes are bomb. The only time I drink coke anymore is when I go to Mexico. You can also get Mexican cokes at Costco here in Phoenix.

Coke anywhere outside of the US tastes the same as Mexican coke. All mexican coke is, is Coke made with pure cane sugar. Coke produces coke with cane sugar in every other country. They only use HFCS in the US.
 

WelshBloke

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technically you can travel there but not spend any money there. some americans like to convert their money to another currency before traveling to cuba. and then when you are in cuba you can convert that money into cuban money. or you could do it before. not sure what the legality of it is though

That's ironic as most non US citizens convert their money into US dollars before going to Cuba and use US dollars when there.
 

mmntech

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That's ironic as most non US citizens convert their money into US dollars before going to Cuba and use US dollars when there.

IIRC, the Cuban Convertible Peso is actually pegged with the US Dollar.

What I ultimately think will happen to Cuba is the same thing that happened in China and Vietnam. Once Fidel Castro dies, the country will go through significant economic and social reforms. Ultimately, it will remain a single party state, but will only be communist on paper. Raul Castro has already been making some movement on reforms. Though he is still heavily influenced by his brother.

The problem with Cuba right now is its dependence on Venezuela for many staples goods. Oil in particular. With Chavez dead, the Bolivarian Revolution movement is starting to collapse. Venezuela has turned into a banana republic, and simply can't afford to be shipping heavily subsidized oil to its allies for much longer. China owns a lot of their debt and Beijing is a fickle mistress. So if Venezuela defaults on its loans or the United Socialist Party loses power, Cuba loses their primary economic partner. This is similar to what happened in the 1990s when the Soviet Union collapsed and Russia stopped giving foreign aid. The country underwent a major economic downturn.

For Cuba, its going to have to convert a big chunk of its economy into a tourism based one like other Caribbean nations. Right now they do have a sizeable industry. Mostly Canadians and Europeans. The fact that its a tropical paradise that's only a short flight/sail away from the US makes it very tempting. These islands don't have enough natural resources to exploit to make anything else really viable.

From the American perspective, they're waiting for Castro to die as well. I think that's the crux of the embargo. They don't want to deal with a man who almost brought the world to nuclear war just so he could wave his dick around at the gringos. American hotel and cruise chains are probably itching to establish themselves there. The big European ones, notably Riu and Melia, have already carved a nice little niche there.
 
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