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JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: alexruiz
Food is awesome, but for a foreign stomach I suggest you stick to the hotel food. The authentic Mexican food is nothing like you can get in the USA (forget taco bell or similar cr@p) and in some cases the spices will get you visiting the throne often.... take it with ease.

You can get authentic Mexican food in the USA Just because a Mexican leaves Mexico and cooks doesn't mean it's not authentic Mexican food!

If its like any other third world country, you shouldn't be eating the food from vendors on the street! Boil water or use bottled water, etc.

Yes, lots of good Mexican restaurants here in San Diego. I'm going down to our Mexico facility next month. I hear there's an excellent Chinese restaurant in Mexicali. Never been to Mexico City but I've heard the air pollution is horrible. I've been to TJ, Rosarito, Ensenada and Cancun but that is pretty much it for my experience in Mexico.
 

Kilgor

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I would love to visit Mexico someday it looks like there are some nice Historical sites. I always wanted to see some Mayan ruins and stuff maybe go to Cabo San Lucas and check out the Womenfolk.
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: usualuse
Any Mexicans here?
What money do you have,and how is it compared to dollar?

Edit-Do you need visa to get into Mexico?

that is sad that you have to ask.
 

CanOWorms

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Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.

That's kind of odd because it tastes the same. Same recipe, same ingredients.

Geographic location doesn't affect the taste! This is just some lame thing that people say... like how people like to say that their country has one of the most diverse cultures and other junk.
 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.

LOL! So in Tijuana you can get real Mexican food, but 30 miles north you can't! I guess San Antonio doesn't have any authentic Mexican!
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: Kilgor
I would love to visit Mexico someday it looks like there are some nice Historical sites. I always wanted to see some Mayan ruins and stuff maybe go to Cabo San Lucas and check out the Womenfolk.
Cool. The Mayan ruins outside of Cancun are spectacular, and Cancun isn't a bad place to "check out the Womenfolk." Cabo is a great place to spend a vacation, especially if you like fishing.
 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'm in no great hurry to visit mexico but I'll be honest - after reading what alexruiz has said in this thread and the mexico parasite thread I'm starting to think that MAYBE it's not quite as bad as I'd heard

I don't think it is as bad as some people say, but it certainly isn't as grand as alexruiz said. He is a tad biased afterall.
 

CanOWorms

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Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.

LOL! So in Tijuana you can get real Mexican food, but 30 miles north you can't! I guess San Antonio doesn't have any authentic Mexican!

Didn't you hear? A geographical border affects food. I blame it all on Rand McNally
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.

LOL! So in Tijuana you can get real Mexican food, but 30 miles north you can't! I guess San Antonio doesn't have any authentic Mexican!
Way to miss the point again, Einstein. Your ignorance is astounding.

Let me make this clear to everyone: TIJUANA IS NOT REAL MEXICO.

The restaurants in Mexico (real Mexico) have the liberty of going to the produce markets to pick the freshest ingredients that were harvested LOCALLY. You will never get mole like you do in Oaxaca or chorizo like you do in Zacatecas. For other recipes, good luck trying to get FRESH Mexican chile de arbol or any variety of Mexican Avocados here in the US.

I used to go to high school in East LA, the most Mexican place north of the border, and the food, even at the best restaurants, still doesn't compare.
 

Ophir

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Mar 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.

LOL! So in Tijuana you can get real Mexican food, but 30 miles north you can't! I guess San Antonio doesn't have any authentic Mexican!

Didn't you hear? A geographical border affects food.
Yes it does, especially when it's a political border. There are quite a few forms of Mexican produce which are illegal to import to the US. Even if they can be imported, the quality will be poor and the produce will NOT be fresh.

 

CanOWorms

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Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.

LOL! So in Tijuana you can get real Mexican food, but 30 miles north you can't! I guess San Antonio doesn't have any authentic Mexican!
Way to miss the point again, Einstein. Your ignorance is astounding.

Let me make this clear to everyone: TIJUANA IS NOT REAL MEXICO.

The restaurants in Mexico (real Mexico) have the liberty of going to the produce markets to pick the freshest ingredients that were harvested LOCALLY. You will never get mole like you do in Oaxaca. For other recipes, good luck trying to get FRESH Mexican chile de arbol or any variety of Mexican Avocados here in the US.

I used to go to high school in East LA, the most Mexican place north of the border, and the food, even at the best restaurants, still doesn't compare.

We have farmers that grow food in the USA, too. I've seen some of the most exotic and strange vegetables that are used in Indian food available in the US. For some reason I think it would be more difficult to get these than Mexican stuff right from our doorstep.
 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms

We have farmers that grow food in the USA, too. I've seen some of the most exotic and strange vegetables that are used in Indian food available in the US.
Look up one post.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms

We have farmers that grow food in the USA, too. I've seen some of the most exotic and strange vegetables that are used in Indian food available in the US.
Look up one post.

Look up one post, too.
 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: OphirWhoever said you can find authentic Mexican food in the US is wrong. There is more to cooking than the recipe. Many of the ingredients used in real Mexican (in Mexico) cooking are either not available here or are of poor quality. You can taste the difference.
My parents are from India so I'm pretty sure it's even harder to get some ingredients. If you're telling me my mother doesn't make real Indian food, then you're mistaken.
*Sigh*. You missed the point. The recipe will be authentic, but the food will not. What I'm saying is the food here will taste nowhere near what it tastes like in India.

LOL! So in Tijuana you can get real Mexican food, but 30 miles north you can't! I guess San Antonio doesn't have any authentic Mexican!
Way to miss the point again, Einstein. Your ignorance is astounding.

Let me make this clear to everyone: TIJUANA IS NOT REAL MEXICO.

The restaurants in Mexico (real Mexico) have the liberty of going to the produce markets to pick the freshest ingredients that were harvested LOCALLY. You will never get mole like you do in Oaxaca or chorizo like you do in Zacatecas. For other recipes, good luck trying to get FRESH Mexican chile de arbol or any variety of Mexican Avocados here in the US.

I used to go to high school in East LA, the most Mexican place north of the border, and the food, even at the best restaurants, still doesn't compare.

Oh ok! The Mexican climate is DIFFERENT that anywhere else in the world? The climate of the Southwest is very comparable to Mexico's climate. People can get local veggies and fresh veggies here too. Just because you THINK something doesn't make it true.

 

Ophir

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Oh ok! The Mexican climate is DIFFERENT that anywhere else in the world? The climate of the Southwest is very comparable to Mexico's climate. People can get local veggies and fresh veggies here too. Just because you THINK something doesn't make it true.
There's rainforests in the Southwest? WHERE? Anywhere in the US? WHERE? There are in Mexico. Are you so ignorant you don't realize that Mexico occupies quite a few climatic zones that do not exist in the US? The country isn't all desert. Read something about Mexican geography before you attempt to correct me. I've been there, extensively. Have you?

One more question, what do you think the first thing good chefs do when they visit a new area, especially one famous for its produce? They hit the produce market. Once there they look and taste all they can. They, as well as most knowledgable diners, know that what we get here, is nowhere near the quality of what can be obtained there. If it's grown here it is often not growing in its natural climate or conditions (due to different farming techniques), if it's imported from Mexico, they have often been IQF'd or in transport for days, or weeks. Trust me, my dad does this for a living as a distributor of Mexican products to the US and Europe. There's a reason why we still import produce from Mexico.

Get your biased ass to Mexico, somewhere like Guadalajara, Guanajuato, Zacatecas, Merida, Oaxaca, Mexico City, or any non-border/tourist trap, and eat a nice meal. If you still think anything we have here is authentic, then I think your tongue is broken.
 

Mill

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ophir
Originally posted by: Millennium
Oh ok! The Mexican climate is DIFFERENT that anywhere else in the world? The climate of the Southwest is very comparable to Mexico's climate. People can get local veggies and fresh veggies here too. Just because you THINK something doesn't make it true.
There's rainforests in the Southwest? WHERE? Anywhere in the US? WHERE? There are in Mexico. Are you so ignorant you don't realize that Mexico occupies quite a few climatic zones that do not exist in the US? The country isn't all desert. Read something about Mexican geography before you attempt to correct me. I've been there, extensively. Have you?

One more question, what do you think the first thing good chefs do when they visit a new area, especially one famous for its produce? They hit the produce market. Once there they look and taste all they can. They, as well as most knowledgable diners, know that what we get here, is nowhere near the quality of what can be obtained there. If it's grown here it is often not growing in its natural climate or conditions (due to different farming techniques), if it's imported from Mexico, they have often been IQF'd or in transport for days, or weeks. Trust me, my dad does this for a living as a distributor of Mexican products to the US and Europe. There's a reason why we still import produce from Mexico.

Get your biased ass to Mexico, somewhere like Guadalajara, Guanajuato, Zacatecas, Merida, Oaxaca, Mexico City, or any non-border/tourist trap, and eat a nice meal. If you still think anything we have here is authentic, then I think your tongue is broken.

No, I had no idea that Mexico or any other place had more than one climate. Rainforests? What are those? I never learned any of this when I majored in meteorology and climatology.
Must have slipped right by me. You can keep assuming things about me, but all it does is make you look foolish. Climates are different everywhere.... the way you were talking was that Mexico is the only place in the world with certain climates. Rainforest are found all the way down Middle America into South America. You think that they can't ship produce? You think Mexico doesn't' ship produce? The dramatic differences you are talking about are overstated. Not too surprising since your livelihood(your dad's business) used to depend on you being able to blow smoke up people's ass. You say you import Mexican produce... and that it is great but then you harp on the fact that it spends too much time in transport. Are you really that biased that you don't see the stupidity of your statements? I don't need to travel at this stage in my life anyway. If I did travel anymore I would go to Canada and back to Europe. I don't really care for the climate in Mexico or the tourist traps(you act as if someone who doesn't speak Spanish can really venture out of the tourist traps). No thanks, but I would rather not get arrested like my friend for having shotgun shells in his backseat from hunting... or my mother's friend son who is a lawyer and was arrested for "supposed" immigration violations. Guess what? They paid a few hundred dollar bribe and were out in hours...

Talk about fvcking fun!


 

alexruiz

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Wow, it grew fast......

Several good points about the poeple that leave the country and they still cook, but now I am going to be the basher of my conationals.....

NOWHERE in the EAST coast or widwest in the USA I have tasted even DECENT Mexican food. The border can be another story, but after seeing that Houston (with lots of Mexicans) offers "tacos" in shells with lettuce and chedar cheese I cannot be sure the border places in the USA offer decent Mexican food....

Granted, a lot of people are supposed to know the recipe, but remember, as pointed in the parasite thread the majority of the people leaving are the ones at the bottom of the food chain. Many of them very likely never tasted food beyond tortillas and frijoles..... Don't get me wrong, when you travel abroas and find "your people" treat the most important day in the history of the country (independence day) as one fetivity more, but celebrate like there is no tomorrow for a battle won agains some invaders (5 de Mayo)......
Yes, I am the one doubting MY people......
 

OREOSpeedwagon

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i'd like to go down there to turn $5 into like 500000000 pesos and buy a nice house on the beach to retire to.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: usualuse
Any Mexicans here?
What money do you have,and how is it compared to dollar?

Edit-Do you need visa to get into Mexico?

Only if you want to get back, either that or a drivers license...

I went to Juarez back in January, saw a vending machine selling coke for 5 pesos. My advice is bring plenty of bottled water. Beware if you sample the local dishes, although they are more tasty than anything you could get back in the States, the food is usually prepared using tap water. It would take you awhile to build up a tolerance to the local water. Be on your best behavior and if you don't speak Spanish don't be an annoying abrasive yankee. This will put a big stamp on your forehead saying I am a stranger please come and try and swindle or scam me.
 
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