Miami police shoot unarmed man

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Linux23

Lifer
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Yes, its fucking terrible what happened in Baton Rogue and Dallas, but, guess what? Police have abused the public trust for decades and eventually shit boils over. They can shoot someone who is unarmed, have it be filmed and nothing happens. They can shoot a child in a park, lie about what happened and nothing. Shoot a man in a store in the back on camera, also nothing. Other cops just shrug and carry on.
Now they are surprised when people turn against them?

What people like you seem to be confused about is you think there is a hidden Only in front of Black Lives Matter. While ignoring that there is actually a Too at the end.
Pretty much that.

This is scary situation. Doing what you're ordered to do and still get shot? Damned if you do damned if you don't.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
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When is the right going to admit that there is a problem here?

Maybe when people quit reporting one sided bullshit stories, and pretend cops are shooting innocent children just trying to go to college. You can cry wolf so many times before people quit listening.

And also when dumb shits finally figure out "unarmed" doesn't automatically mean unjustified shooting.
 
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Please google what that word means, then ponder for a while how it fits into this thread. The topic is professional standards for officers on public payroll. "Deflecting" in this context means deflecting from said topic.

If you wish to instead talk about the different topic of crime in the slums, that's fine, too, but dismissing the topic at hand for a rather different one is what deflecting means by definition.

Generally if you desire to have productive adult conversations, it's necessary to learn a level of reading comprehension where basic words can be understood. That's simply the nature of human communication, so don't get angry when someone has to plain it to you.
People in here have no clue how to be adults. Instead they dwell on cops as some major source of the problem within the black community instead of staring down the real problems. If you think pointing fingers at cops constantly is being adult, help yourself, but that's nothing but punk thinking and turning a blind eye.

Now go ahead and continue on with your delusions. I would expect nothing less of the usual lunk-heads in this cesspool called P&N.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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The police union rep's speech defending the idiots actions just makes me sick. That cop needs to be burned all the way down for this blatant act of unwarranted violence against the impaired man's caregiver.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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So another black man shot by police when they fully complied and they should just shut up and be glad they are in Murca?

Some people are so dense they can't discern the significance of abuse by law enforcement representing the state and its long term effects. Different topic then random crime.
 

Sunburn74

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The police union rep's speech defending the idiots actions just makes me sick. That cop needs to be burned all the way down for this blatant act of unwarranted violence against the impaired man's caregiver.

The basic defense is incompentence and it really doesn't make sense right. Its disgustingly laughable in a way

1) We thought the harmless autisim guy sitting quietly on the curb was a threat so we shot to kill
2) We shot the other guy who was laying flat on his back accidently whilst tying to headshot the allegedly dangerous autism guy who's playing with a truck
3) After realizing we shot the wrong guy in the leg in a non-lifethreatening fashion and didn't headshot the guy we really wanted, we then calmly approached the guy we thought needed to be killed via headshot and put him in cuffs.

Its clear this was a gross error of momentous proportions by the responding officers, one that is saved from escalation by their own olympian levels of incompetence.
 

pauldun170

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The basic defense is incompentence and it really doesn't make sense right. Its disgustingly laughable in a way

1) We thought the harmless autisim guy sitting quietly on the curb was a threat so we shot to kill
2) We shot the other guy who was laying flat on his back accidently whilst tying to headshot the allegedly dangerous autism guy who's playing with a truck
3) After realizing we shot the wrong guy in the leg in a non-lifethreatening fashion and didn't headshot the guy we really wanted, we then calmly approached the guy we thought needed to be killed via headshot and put him in cuffs.

Its clear this was a gross error of momentous proportions by the responding officers, one that is saved from escalation by their own olympian levels of incompetence.

That could be summed up as "We found no violations of current departmental policy but will...."



"SQUIRREL!!!!"
(Police spokesman and half of officers go running after squirrel)
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Maybe when people quit reporting one sided bullshit stories, and pretend cops are shooting innocent children just trying to go to college. You can cry wolf so many times before people quit listening.

And also when dumb shits finally figure out "unarmed" doesn't automatically mean unjustified shooting.

So good shoot?
 

GarfieldtheCat

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The basic defense is incompentence and it really doesn't make sense right. Its disgustingly laughable in a way

1) We thought the harmless autisim guy sitting quietly on the curb was a threat so we shot to kill
2) We shot the other guy who was laying flat on his back accidently whilst tying to headshot the allegedly dangerous autism guy who's playing with a truck
3) After realizing we shot the wrong guy in the leg in a non-lifethreatening fashion and didn't headshot the guy we really wanted, we then calmly approached the guy we thought needed to be killed via headshot and put him in cuffs.

Its clear this was a gross error of momentous proportions by the responding officers, one that is saved from escalation by their own olympian levels of incompetence.

Pretty much this. Once again, blatent lying and dishonesty fromt eh cops, and total disregard for peoples (mainly black) rights.

And the same people here will still defend the cops and say there is no systemic problem.
 

Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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Yes, its fucking terrible what happened in Baton Rogue and Dallas, but, guess what? Police have abused the public trust for decades and eventually shit boils over. They can shoot someone who is unarmed, have it be filmed and nothing happens. They can shoot a child in a park, lie about what happened and nothing. Shoot a man in a store in the back on camera, also nothing. Other cops just shrug and carry on.
Now they are surprised when people turn against them?

What people like you seem to be confused about is you think there is a hidden Only in front of Black Lives Matter. While ignoring that there is actually a Too at the end.

Cops have wrongfully killed or wrongfully abused all sorts of people. Yet one demographic has recently set out to kill cops. You're saying blacks are justified from past transgressions? I can't really take anything you say seriously when you want to see all pigs die in front of their kids. Your words.

It's funny that you talk about hidden words, yet put one at the end of BLM. Yes black lives matter, all lives do. Police violence and wrong doing against all people needs stop as much as humanly possible. Honest mistakes are made, but those that are purposely made need to stop, and if continued, those that do need to be held accountable.
 

bshole

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The basic defense is incompentence and it really doesn't make sense right. Its disgustingly laughable in a way

1) We thought the harmless autisim guy sitting quietly on the curb was a threat so we shot to kill
2) We shot the other guy who was laying flat on his back accidently whilst tying to headshot the allegedly dangerous autism guy who's playing with a truck
3) After realizing we shot the wrong guy in the leg in a non-lifethreatening fashion and didn't headshot the guy we really wanted, we then calmly approached the guy we thought needed to be killed via headshot and put him in cuffs.

Its clear this was a gross error of momentous proportions by the responding officers, one that is saved from escalation by their own olympian levels of incompetence.

Thank God the officer was such an awful marksman.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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The basic defense is incompentence and it really doesn't make sense right. Its disgustingly laughable in a way

1) We thought the harmless autisim guy sitting quietly on the curb was a threat so we shot to kill
2) We shot the other guy who was laying flat on his back accidently whilst tying to headshot the allegedly dangerous autism guy who's playing with a truck
3) After realizing we shot the wrong guy in the leg in a non-lifethreatening fashion and didn't headshot the guy we really wanted, we then calmly approached the guy we thought needed to be killed via headshot and put him in cuffs.

Its clear this was a gross error of momentous proportions by the responding officers, one that is saved from escalation by their own olympian levels of incompetence.

Exactly. I hope tax payers like paying for settlements.
 

Brovane

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Why I do find the shooting video disturbing and in-excusable.

This really floors me. After the shooting it should have been very clear to anyone involved that they shot a innocent person and the other individual was mentally disabled. So what do the Cops do? They handcuff the man they just shot and left him on the hot pavement without first aid for 20-minutes until Fire&Rescue responded to treat him, wtf? What is wrong with these people? He is real lucky the wound wasn't more serious because he would have bleed out.
 

Linux23

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Why I do find the shooting video disturbing and in-excusable.

This really floors me. After the shooting it should have been very clear to anyone involved that they shot a innocent person and the other individual was mentally disabled. So what do the Cops do? They handcuff the man they just shot and left him on the hot pavement without first aid for 20-minutes until Fire&Rescue responded to treat him, wtf? What is wrong with these people? He is real lucky the wound wasn't more serious because he would have bleed out.

the pigs don't give a shit. i think they prefer that their shooting victim dies so that there is only one side to the story. dead (black) men tell no tales.
 

Linux23

Lifer
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it disgusts me to see people post about black people when there is a documented and undocumented history of decades of police brutality against blacks so to sit here and pretend to know how it feels to be on the other side of the coin is ridiculous.

this stuff about police brutality is nothing new. the only thing new is more phones with cameras built in exposing basically what black folk suffered through for years.

if people can try and step into others shoes and think deeply about how you would feel if you were in that position, then i believe an honest discussion about racial injustice can be made.

What people like you seem to be confused about is you think there is a hidden Only in front of Black Lives Matter. While ignoring that there is actually a Too at the end.

Amen brother.
 
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realibrad

Lifer
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it disgusts me to see people post about black people when there is a documented and undocumented history of decades of police brutality against blacks so to sit here and pretend to know how it feels to be on the other side of the coin is ridiculous.

this stuff about police brutality is nothing new. the only thing new is more phones with cameras built in exposing basically what black folk suffered through for years.

if people can try and step into others shoes and think deeply about how you would feel if you were in that position, then i believe an honest discussion about racial injustice can be made.

You just said they cant though. :thumbsup:
 
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Why I do find the shooting video disturbing and in-excusable.

This really floors me. After the shooting it should have been very clear to anyone involved that they shot a innocent person and the other individual was mentally disabled. So what do the Cops do? They handcuff the man they just shot and left him on the hot pavement without first aid for 20-minutes until Fire&Rescue responded to treat him, wtf? What is wrong with these people? He is real lucky the wound wasn't more serious because he would have bleed out.

Seems to be a theme in these Police shootings. I agree I find it disturbing too, someone gets shot innocent or guilty I won't judge. The Police really should be able to provide some basic medical care like put a bandage on it and get the guy out of the elements.
 

Brovane

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Seems to be a theme in these Police shootings. I agree I find it disturbing too, someone gets shot innocent or guilty I won't judge. The Police really should be able to provide some basic medical care like put a bandage on it and get the guy out of the elements.

They even prevent a person from trying to stop the bleeding themselves by handcuffing them.
 

Meghan54

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Oct 18, 2009
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I'm wondering why the guy who got shot was handcuffed in the first place, since the police union spokesperson stated, as justification for the shooting, the cops on the scene were trying to protect him when trying to shoot the autistic man.

So why handcuff the man you were trying to protect from the toy truck-armed autistic gent?
 

NAC4EV

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I'm wondering why the guy who got shot was handcuffed in the first place, since the police union spokesperson stated, as justification for the shooting, the cops on the scene were trying to protect him when trying to shoot the autistic man.

So why handcuff the man you were trying to protect from the toy truck-armed autistic gent?

He was black.
According to police, Black people are more violent than white people.
 

runzwithsizorz

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I'm wondering why the guy who got shot was handcuffed in the first place, since the police union spokesperson stated, as justification for the shooting, the cops on the scene were trying to protect him when trying to shoot the autistic man.

So why handcuff the man you were trying to protect from the toy truck-armed autistic gent?
SOP, but more importantly, with witnesses, and cameras filming, CYA!!!
Make it appear there is still a threat. I have seen quite a few videos of cops handcuffing dead, or as good as dead people.
 
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The Police Unions' position is comical if you think about it they claim that

The cop shot accidentally....twice
He wasn't aiming for the black guy that they hand cuffed
They were worried about the autism guy but they sauntered up and cuffed him too after shooting the black guy

The story is just a mess.
 

cbrsurfr

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This all originated with the 911 caller mistaking a truck for a gun. Can they be charged with anything? Obviously there was no gun...

The police actions are inexcusable. I'm normally on the side of the police, but this is just unreal.

I smell a 6 maybe 7 figure settlement in the therapists future.
 
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