Michael Jackson dead: 1958 - 2009

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Sea Moose

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I think this thread is way more important than talking about a dead guy. Wait, a dead guy that made music.

Win some respect mods and sticky this thread now. Unsticky wacko jacko, it will stay at the top on its own.
 

TehMac

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I think ultimately he was just a guy who made it big young, couldn't grow up, it ate away at him, and he succumbed to it all.

But he had damn fine talent. RIP. Probably the best way to go out at this point.
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: S Freud
Originally posted by: Wreckage
I would guess much like Elvis and more recently Heath Ledger, he fell to prescription meds.

Do people even read threads prior to posting anymore? He died of a heat attack.

:roll:

Which I'm sure was brought on by extreme old age and obesity...

African Americans run a much higher risk of having a heart attack in their 50's than any other group of men. It's very possible he did zero drugs, aren't black males in their 50's something like 3 1/2 times more likely to have a heart attack than a white male in his 50's? Unless I see medical proof he died from drugs it's all shens. He had tons of issues, but that doesn't mean he used any drugs.
 

CKent

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He always seemed desperately unhappy to me. Even way back in many old 70's Jackson 5 photos where they're all smiling, you can see it doesn't extend to his eyes. His bizarre personal life was probably an outgrowth of that, and the child molestation issue deplorable, but he's gone now so it can rest... No matter what else though, the man sure could sing and dance. RIP
 

ProfJohn

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Sad sad day for music lovers.

Certainly the most talented performer of our generation.

Behind only the Beatles and Elvis as the most popular music artist of all time.
 

SuperSix

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Great.

A sticky for a child molester - Good Work Dr. Pizza.

Idiot


I hope he rots in hell, slowly, painfully.

Good riddance you sick fuck.





One week off for the mod callout.


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ProfJohn

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About the child molestation thing...

Michael was never allowed to grow up due to his amazing fame. One his brothers told the story about how difficult it became for Michael since it was always "look out here come the girls"

This stunted emotional development most likely resulted in Michael's problems having adult relationships later in his life. Apparently people who fit Michael's profile have sexual relations with young children because they feel more comfortable with them than adults.
 

SuperSix

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
About the child molestation thing...

Michael was never allowed to grow up due to his amazing fame. One his brothers told the story about how difficult it became for Michael since it was always "look out here come the girls"

This stunted emotional development most likely resulted in Michael's problems having adult relationships later in his life. Apparently people who fit Michael's profile have sexual relations with young children because they feel more comfortable with them than adults.

HE FUCKED CHILDREN.

Yes- it's appalling - it disgusts me that he is being put on a pedestal.

Yes, I realize he was a gargantuan talent, yes, I appreciated his music, but he was a horribly screwed up person, and the innocence he STOLE from those children will make sure his place in hell is reserved, and available.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: SuperSix
A sticky for a child molester
Innocent until proven guilty.

Idiot.

I hope he rots in hell, slowly, painfully.
Hell is a fairy tale. All of us, good or bad, return to dust.
 

JM Aggie08

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Originally posted by: SuperSix
Great.

A sticky for a child molester - Good Work Dr. Pizza.

Idiot


I hope he rots in hell, slowly, painfully.

Good riddance you sick fuck.

:Q:disgust:
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
About the child molestation thing...

Michael was never allowed to grow up due to his amazing fame. One his brothers told the story about how difficult it became for Michael since it was always "look out here come the girls"

This stunted emotional development most likely resulted in Michael's problems having adult relationships later in his life. Apparently people who fit Michael's profile have sexual relations with young children because they feel more comfortable with them than adults.

HE FUCKED CHILDREN.

Yes- it's appalling - it disgusts me that he is being put on a pedestal.

Yes, I realize he was a gargantuan talent, yes, I appreciated his music, but he was a horribly screwed up person, and the innocence he STOLE from those children will make sure his place in hell is reserved, and available.
I don't think anything was ever proven.

He certainly behaved in ways that normal adults wouldn't, but the one time he was in court over the thing he was found not guilty.

And the other case seemed to be all about money.

BTW the worst accusation I ever heard was about hit touching other children, never heard anyone claim he had sex with them.
 

SuperSix

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Why is this asshole so celebrated? Best thing that ever happened to his "children". Maybe now they can have some semblance of a normal life.
 

ProfJohn

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People magazine just released a special edition about the 70s with both Michael and Farrah on the cover. Not sure if you call that irony or not.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated?
Because he was more talented as an artist and businessman than you'll ever be in anything you do.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: SuperSix
A sticky for a child molester
Innocent until proven guilty.

Idiot.

I hope he rots in hell, slowly, painfully.
Hell is a fairy tale. All of us, good or bad, return to dust.

Some people like to forget this little tidbit and jump to conclusions.
Facts are Michael Jackson was never convicted and never admitted to anything. There were pay offs, true, but when it comes to child molestation charges, it's a very risky thing to put your fate in the hand of 12 people you do not know and that could side against you because they "think of the children" instead of the facts. It was a sure way for him to end the proceedings and secure that he would not go to jail.
 

SuperSix

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
About the child molestation thing...

Michael was never allowed to grow up due to his amazing fame. One his brothers told the story about how difficult it became for Michael since it was always "look out here come the girls"

This stunted emotional development most likely resulted in Michael's problems having adult relationships later in his life. Apparently people who fit Michael's profile have sexual relations with young children because they feel more comfortable with them than adults.

HE FUCKED CHILDREN.

Yes- it's appalling - it disgusts me that he is being put on a pedestal.

Yes, I realize he was a gargantuan talent, yes, I appreciated his music, but he was a horribly screwed up person, and the innocence he STOLE from those children will make sure his place in hell is reserved, and available.
I don't think anything was ever proven.

He certainly behaved in ways that normal adults wouldn't, but the one time he was in court over the thing he was found not guilty.

And the other case seemed to be all about money.

BTW the worst accusation I ever heard was about hit touching other children, never heard anyone claim he had sex with them.


Can you possibly be more ignorant and gullible?


 

ProfJohn

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From wiki
ackson was accused of child sexual abuse by a 13-year-old child named Jordan Chandler and his father Evan Chandler.[79] The friendship between Jackson and Evan Chandler broke down. Sometime afterwards, Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over".[80] A year after they had met, under the influence of a controversial sedative, Jordan Chandler told his father that Jackson had touched his penis.[81] Evan Chandler and Jackson, represented by their legal teams, then engaged in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue in a financial settlement; the negotiations were initiated by Chandler but Jackson did make several counter offers. Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer's genitals.[82]
An official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. Neverland Ranch was searched; multiple children and family members denied that he was a pedophile.[82] Jackson's image took a further turn for the worse when his older sister La Toya Jackson accused him of being a pedophile, a statement she later retracted.[83] Jackson agreed to a 25-minute strip search, conducted at his ranch. The search was required to see if a description provided by Jordan Chandler was accurate. Doctors concluded that there were some strong similarities, but it was not a definitive match.[83] Jackson made an emotional public statement on the events; he proclaimed his innocence, criticized what he perceived as biased media coverage and told of his strip search.[79]
Jackson began taking painkillers, Valium, Xanax and Ativan to deal with the stress of the allegations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson was addicted to the drugs.[84] His health deteriorated to the extent that he canceled the remainder of the Dangerous World Tour and went into drug rehabilitation for a few months.[85] The stress of the allegations also caused Jackson to stop eating, losing a significant amount of weight.[86] With his health in decline, Jackson's friends and legal advisers took over his defense and finances; they called on him to settle the allegations out of court, believing that he could not endure a lengthy trial.[85][86]
Tabloid reaction to the allegations put Jackson in an unfavorable light.[87] Complaints about the coverage and media included everything from bias against Jackson, accepting stories of alleged criminal activity for money to accepting confidential leaked material from the police investigation in return for money paid.[88] On January 1, 1994, Jackson settled with the Chandler family and their legal team out of court, in a civil lawsuit for $22 million. After the settlement Jordan Chandler refused to continue with Police criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence
The bolded part makes you wonder.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated?
Because he was more talented as an artist and businessman than you'll ever be in anything you do.

He is celebrated because he is one of if not the greatest entertainer of all time. There is no denying the impact he had on popular music and culture. Regardless of his legal problems and general weirdness, he was a talent like no other.

 

SuperSix

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Ok - and OJ was never "convicted", so I guess that means he never did it. Right

Neither one spent MILLIONS to get out of their respective crimes. My bad.

Idiots.
 

ProfJohn

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wiki part 2
In a Granada Television documentary titled Living with Michael Jackson, the singer was seen holding hands and discussing sleeping arrangements with Gavin Arvizo, who would later accuse him of child sexual abuse.[118] In the same documentary Jackson was observed spending large amounts of money in an apparently frivolous manner, when he spent $6 million in a single store.[62] Shortly after the documentary aired, Jackson was charged with seven counts of child sexual abuse and two counts of administering an intoxicating agent in order to commit that felony; all charges regarded the same boy, Gavin Arvizo, who was under 14 at the time of the alleged crime.

Jackson denied the sexual abuse allegations, saying that the sleepovers were in no way sexual in nature. Jackson's friend Elizabeth Taylor defended him on Larry King Live, saying that she had been there when they "were in the bed, watching television. There was nothing abnormal about it. There was no touchy-feely going on. We laughed like children and we watched a lot of Walt Disney. There was nothing odd about it."[119] During the investigation, Jackson's profile was examined by mental health professional Dr. Stan Katz; the doctor spent several hours with the accuser too. The assessment made by Katz, was that Jackson had become a regressed 10-year-old and did not fit the profile of a pedophile.[120]

The People v. Jackson trial began in Santa Maria, California, two years after Jackson was originally charged. During this period the singer became dependent on morphine and Demerol, a dependency which he subsequently overcame. He also suffered from stress-related illnesses and severe weight loss, that would alter his appearance. The trial lasted five months, until the end of May 2005, he was acquitted on all counts.
So he went on trial and was found not guilty.
 

ProfJohn

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It looks like Michael's drug problems may have started with the molestation accusations.

It would be really sad to learn that the stories were made up for profit and that these people essentially drove him to an early grave.
 
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