Thank you. Some people, like supersux can't take emotion out of their reasoning. If the family and accuser really wanted justice, they would have gone through with the criminal proceedings and not taken a payout.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
From wiki
The bolded part makes you wonder.ackson was accused of child sexual abuse by a 13-year-old child named Jordan Chandler and his father Evan Chandler.[79] The friendship between Jackson and Evan Chandler broke down. Sometime afterwards, Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, "If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever...Michael's career will be over".[80] A year after they had met, under the influence of a controversial sedative, Jordan Chandler told his father that Jackson had touched his penis.[81] Evan Chandler and Jackson, represented by their legal teams, then engaged in unsuccessful negotiations to resolve the issue in a financial settlement; the negotiations were initiated by Chandler but Jackson did make several counter offers. Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer's genitals.[82]
An official investigation began, with Jordan Chandler's mother adamant that there was no wrongdoing on Jackson's part. Neverland Ranch was searched; multiple children and family members denied that he was a pedophile.[82] Jackson's image took a further turn for the worse when his older sister La Toya Jackson accused him of being a pedophile, a statement she later retracted.[83] Jackson agreed to a 25-minute strip search, conducted at his ranch. The search was required to see if a description provided by Jordan Chandler was accurate. Doctors concluded that there were some strong similarities, but it was not a definitive match.[83] Jackson made an emotional public statement on the events; he proclaimed his innocence, criticized what he perceived as biased media coverage and told of his strip search.[79]
Jackson began taking painkillers, Valium, Xanax and Ativan to deal with the stress of the allegations made against him. By the fall of 1993, Jackson was addicted to the drugs.[84] His health deteriorated to the extent that he canceled the remainder of the Dangerous World Tour and went into drug rehabilitation for a few months.[85] The stress of the allegations also caused Jackson to stop eating, losing a significant amount of weight.[86] With his health in decline, Jackson's friends and legal advisers took over his defense and finances; they called on him to settle the allegations out of court, believing that he could not endure a lengthy trial.[85][86]
Tabloid reaction to the allegations put Jackson in an unfavorable light.[87] Complaints about the coverage and media included everything from bias against Jackson, accepting stories of alleged criminal activity for money to accepting confidential leaked material from the police investigation in return for money paid.[88] On January 1, 1994, Jackson settled with the Chandler family and their legal team out of court, in a civil lawsuit for $22 million. After the settlement Jordan Chandler refused to continue with Police criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Ok - and OJ was never "convicted", so I guess that means he never did it. Right
Neither one spent MILLIONS to get out of their respective crimes. My bad.
Idiots.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Because he was more talented as an artist and businessman than you'll ever be in anything you do.Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated?
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Ok - and OJ was never "convicted", so I guess that means he never did it. Right
Neither one spent MILLIONS to get out of their respective crimes. My bad.
Idiots.
Well there are your beliefs then there are the facts. OJ nor Michael Jackson were convicted of their crimes (well OJ was convicted on other charges linked to his armed robbery).
Do you think the possibility of a pay off is a strong motivator as well??Originally posted by: SuperSix
Payoffs are a strong motivator. I like the "SuperSux" gimmick thought.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Do you think the possibility of a pay off is a strong motivator as well??Originally posted by: SuperSix
Payoffs are a strong motivator. I like the "SuperSux" gimmick thought.
Paid the first kid $22 million... I am sure the second kid was asking for the same when they got stuck in criminal court instead.
How many other musicians do you know could instantly sell out a million-ticket 50-show performance run decades after their heyday?Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Because he was more talented as an artist and businessman than you'll ever be in anything you do.Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated?
Uhhh.......no. He was doing 50 concerts just to try and stay afloat.
Let me explain this to you nice and slowly.Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Do you think the possibility of a pay off is a strong motivator as well??Originally posted by: SuperSix
Payoffs are a strong motivator. I like the "SuperSux" gimmick thought.
Paid the first kid $22 million... I am sure the second kid was asking for the same when they got stuck in criminal court instead.
Isn't that what I said?
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Because he was more talented as an artist and businessman than you'll ever be in anything you do.Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated?
Fuck you.
:Q (at dave)Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Because he was more talented as an artist and businessman than you'll ever be in anything you do.Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated?
Fuck you.
:shocked:
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
:Q (at dave)Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Because he was more talented as an artist and businessman than you'll ever be in anything you do.Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated?
Fuck you.
:shocked:
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
About the child molestation thing...
Michael was never allowed to grow up due to his amazing fame. One his brothers told the story about how difficult it became for Michael since it was always "look out here come the girls"
This stunted emotional development most likely resulted in Michael's problems having adult relationships later in his life. Apparently people who fit Michael's profile have sexual relations with young children because they feel more comfortable with them than adults.
HE FUCKED CHILDREN.
Originally posted by: SuperSix
Why is this asshole so celebrated? Best thing that ever happened to his "children". Maybe now they can have some semblance of a normal life.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
So my question to you is: "Could it be possible that the whole MJ is a pervert thing was created by people just looking for a pay off?"
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: amdhunter
RIP -- this one actually bothers me a lot.
aye, he touched a lot of people.
I know lots of kids who turned out fine without having a Beatles back-catalog trust fund.Originally posted by: loki8481
heard on CNN this morning that he left the Beatles catalog to Paul McCartney... classy, but probably not so great for his kids.