Michael Jackson dead: 1958 - 2009

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Lisa Marie claims that they had a 'normal' marriage.

He was married a second time and got her pregnant.

The insemination thing proves nothing.

BTW you are the one making the accusation, it is your job to prove he is gay, not my job to prove he is straight.

So how many of his albums do you own?

 

[WaTaGuMp]

None of us can prove if he was or wasn't gay, none of us can prove if he molested kids or not, bottom line we are all just discussing our opinions.

 

[flunky nassau]

http://www.zshare.net/download/53748048b24e0397/#


Here's a Michael Jackson mix by DJ Ayers that he did awhile ago.

Enjoy.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Lisa Marie claims that they had a 'normal' marriage.

He was married a second time and got her pregnant.

The insemination thing proves nothing.

BTW you are the one making the accusation, it is your job to prove he is gay, not my job to prove he is straight.

So how many of his albums do you own?

2.

Would you like to burn them?

 

[ballmode]

JA MON

EHHH HEEEEEEEEE

 

[spidey07]

Comedy central needs to air the South Park Michael Jackson epidode every day for the next week as a tribute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E80gqyz4Z4

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
He was obviously gay. If he had chosen his partners with an age of at least 18, there would have been no problems with all the children he reportedly molested.

Try reading up on sexual molestation before you make another dumb ass claim like the one above.

The desire to have sexual contact with underaged children is a mental illness that has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation. In fact most men who molest young boys are completely straight.

This is patently true, based on all of the evidence available.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
He was obviously gay. If he had chosen his partners with an age of at least 18, there would have been no problems with all the children he reportedly molested.

Try reading up on sexual molestation before you make another dumb ass claim like the one above.

The desire to have sexual contact with underaged children is a mental illness that has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation. In fact most men who molest young boys are completely straight.

ProfJohn I know your trolling is your forte' so Ill not bother. His sexual preference was for males, you can throw your pscyobabble around and Ill dismiss it as such. Pyscobabble. Males who prefer males are not straight they are gay, and anyone who argues otherwise is a pyschobabbler with misleading facts and figures to shield males who prefer males.

What evidence do you offer to back up the bolded statement?

BTW you are the one trolling with your 'gay' comment.

Besides that fact that his children were born after insemination, the sham marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, etc, can you provide any evidence he was at all heterosexual?

I think the burden of proof is clearly on you to prove that he wasn't, since that is what you claim.

As ProfJohn already stated, mountains of data from plenty of studies over the years have clearly shown that pederasts are most often straight males, with no history of homosexual behavior. And the perpetrator is usually someone closely related to the victim.

The homosexual = pervert stereotype is nothing more than a scapegoated stereotype conjured from the fear-mongering ignoramuses of the 50s and 60s, usually through propaganda films, and never based on any evidence whatsoever.

That is quite true, and has been understood for some time now. Perhaps you owe it to yourself to join the current half-century?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: OCguy
The amount of drugs found in his body should be interesting.

maybe I'm just hopelessly naive, but MJ never seemed like a drug addict to me -- more like someone just truly messed up psychologically who, inside his own head, never really grew up.

He had admitted to an addiction to pain killers back in the Lisa Marie days, iirc. Pharm or otherwise, drug addict = drug addict.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Here is the 9-1-1 call, sounds to me like he was already gone.



9-1-1

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Here is the 9-1-1 call, sounds to me like he was already gone.



9-1-1

Just finished listening to it before TV started broadcasting it. So, that explains why they're looking for this doctor.

Sounds like he was gone alright. I'm surprised I didn't see this yesterday on CNN or other news sites while I was slacking off at work. I remember reading Farrah Fawcet dying, but found out on my drive home and thought the radio host was screwing around.

 

[ProfJohn]

From the description I heard yesterday it sounds like they gave him the shot and he just faded away.

Doubt he was even aware of what was going on. Good to know he didn't suffer, but still an all around sad story.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

2.

Would you like to burn them?

No, I wouldnt want to break your little heart by burning the chester's work.

 

[nageov3t]

He Knew.

Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.

I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."

I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.

14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.

A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.

The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.

All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.

I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.

Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.

I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.

His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.

At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.

He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.

When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.

Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.

I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.

I was in over my head while trying.

I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.

The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.

After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.

Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.

At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.

As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.

Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.

He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.

I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.

He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.

I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.

The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.





I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.


~LMP

http://blogs.myspace.com/index...91868&blogId=497035326

 

[ElFenix]

lisa marie was not my lover
she's just a girl that i used for cover

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

As ProfJohn already stated, mountains of data from plenty of studies over the years have clearly shown that pederasts are most often straight males, with no history of homosexual behavior. And the perpetrator is usually someone closely related to the victim.

The homosexual = pervert stereotype is nothing more than a scapegoated stereotype conjured from the fear-mongering ignoramuses of the 50s and 60s, usually through propaganda films, and never based on any evidence whatsoever.

That is quite true, and has been understood for some time now. Perhaps you owe it to yourself to join the current half-century?

The first thing you did was lump them all together as "pederasts", which is what the people who collect this data do. They dont want to draw the distinction between homosexual and heterosexual because the people who draw conclusions from it such as yourself, profjohn, etc like to ignore what common sense tells you - males attracted to male boys are homosexual and horny with no regard for the age of consent (like Jackson) and males attracted to baby girls are heterosexual and horny, with the same disregard for the age of consent and innocence of children. Thats where the deranged mind comes into play and prey on that innocence.

When they say, "the majority of pederasts are hetero" thats true. But to say that because some sick men and women molest kids speaks badly for homosexuality OR heterosexuality is drawing the wrong conclusion, especially since the majority ARE heterosexual. You assumed I thought that way. I dont.

Lastly, I still think MJ was gay and would have saved himself a lot of heartache by simply picking consenting males over the age of 18 to administer the "jesus juice" to before having sex with them.

 

[Druidx]

Katt Williams said it best.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzdXcTIBDW0

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Bacstar
MSNBC has a Breaking News update: LAPD looking for the MJ's doctor... no details though.

No surprise.

Michael was accidently killed via an overdose. The details from yesterday seemed to make that clear. He was given a shot and then died afterwards.

Whoever gave that overdose will probably have to go live in the woods, there are going to be some crazy crazy people looking for him :Q

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Bacstar
MSNBC has a Breaking News update: LAPD looking for the MJ's doctor... no details though.

No surprise.

Michael was accidently killed via an overdose. The details from yesterday seemed to make that clear. He was given a shot and then died afterwards.

Whoever gave that overdose will probably have to go live in the woods, there are going to be some crazy crazy people looking for him :Q

he better hope his roommate in prison was a country fan.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Bacstar
MSNBC has a Breaking News update: LAPD looking for the MJ's doctor... no details though.

No surprise.

Michael was accidently killed via an overdose. The details from yesterday seemed to make that clear. He was given a shot and then died afterwards.

Whoever gave that overdose will probably have to go live in the woods, there are going to be some crazy crazy people looking for him :Q

he better hope his roommate in prison was a country fan.

I'm pretty sure if he is a legitimate Dr, he is protected from criminal charges unless they can show intent.

As far as we know, it was MJs daily dose of drugs, and his body finally just gave out.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

I am gonna go out on a limb here and predict the drugs he was taking will factor in to the cause of death. I know its a huge stretch though.

 

[Modelworks]

Damn, At&T is saying that when the news broke about his death, the text messages increased to 65,000 messages per second on the network.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Damn, At&T is saying that when the news broke about his death, the text messages increased to 65,000 messages per second on the network.

So what you're saying is they were umping up and down about $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Damn, At&T is saying that when the news broke about his death, the text messages increased to 65,000 messages per second on the network.

So what you're saying is they were umping up and down about $$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Probably.
They said that At&T engineers were constantly struggling to keep up with demand. The system had never had so much stress.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
He was obviously gay. If he had chosen his partners with an age of at least 18, there would have been no problems with all the children he reportedly molested.

Try reading up on sexual molestation before you make another dumb ass claim like the one above.

The desire to have sexual contact with underaged children is a mental illness that has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation. In fact most men who molest young boys are completely straight.

ProfJohn I know your trolling is your forte' so Ill not bother. His sexual preference was for males, you can throw your pscyobabble around and Ill dismiss it as such. Pyscobabble. Males who prefer males are not straight they are gay, and anyone who argues otherwise is a pyschobabbler with misleading facts and figures to shield males who prefer males.

One of the first things that is taught to you in a psychology class is to never analyze someone based purely on your intuition. Our intuition and perceptions are hardly accurate and do not count as fact.

You are effectively labeling yourself a complete ignorant moron by dismissing the "psychobabble". To even refer to the evidence as "psychobabble" shows you are not smart to begin with anyways.