Michael Jackson dead: 1958 - 2009

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dmcowen674

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Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Damn, At&T is saying that when the news broke about his death, the text messages increased to 65,000 messages per second on the network.

So what you're saying is they were umping up and down about $$$$$$$$$$$$$.


Probably.
They said that At&T engineers were constantly struggling to keep up with demand. The system had never had so much stress.

Had to clear some temp directories here and there but no biggie.

The Internet & Carriers survived just fine.
 

Turkish

Lifer
May 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Sad - hope he recovers (unlikely). He was the greatest artist of the 80s, without a doubt. A genuine super-star.

Let's not forget Freddie Mercury... I think they can share the #1 spot.
 

mjrpes3

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Oct 2, 2004
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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Damn, At&T is saying that when the news broke about his death, the text messages increased to 65,000 messages per second on the network.

At $.40/text (paid for both directions), that's $26000/second. That's $820 billion a year. In no way are text message overpriced.
 

paulney

Diamond Member
Sep 24, 2003
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I put on my wizard robe and a tinfoil hat.

What if it was a way for the organizer of his concerts to get out of the awful mess they got in. They promised 50 concerts. That is a shitload of concerts to perform, and a grueling task for any musician even in perfect health. And MJ's show were not a '2 guitars and a microphone' kind of gigs. People expected to see an all-out phantasmagoria when they bought the tickets, which were quite expensive. As far as I've read the organizers collected somewhat in the ballpark of 640 million of dollars.

Now they see that MJ is obviously in no condition to perform. He is a miserable old man with poor health and emotional issues. They have several options:
- cancel the concerts and refund all the money. Lose their investments into Michael and whatever they put into getting the show promoted and prepared. People demand their refunds.
- run the first 1-2 concerts. People will see that MJ is not at all what they expected to see. MJ collapses and is in no condition to perform any more. Organizers lose their investments. People demand their refunds.

But there's a third way out: keep MJ on meds until he overdoses. They keep pushing the concert dates as MJ keeps getting doctor-prescribed drugs. The star dies! Now all the sold tickets are a unique memorabilia! Tickets to the last Michael's concert that he never made! People will hold on to the tickets to pawn them off later. Organizers keep the profits. A legend is born.

Notice how: a) the doctor is nowhere to be found b) the organizers did not comment in any way how they are planning to refund people their money.
 

GrumpyMan

Diamond Member
May 14, 2001
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This is just my opinion but I can't mourn a predatory pedophile. I really don't care if he can run, dance, sing or fly to the moon on a red carpet. Sorry. :disgust:
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Damn, At&T is saying that when the news broke about his death, the text messages increased to 65,000 messages per second on the network.

At $.40/text (paid for both directions), that's $26000/second. That's $820 billion a year. In no way are text message overpriced.

The kind of people who would rush to text their friends when Michael Jackson died are likely to have text message plans that are much cheaper than $.20 per text.

But yes, they are overpriced. The old $.10/$.02 pricing was much more reasonable.
 

ric1287

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Nov 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: QueBert


African Americans run a much higher risk of having a heart attack in their 50's than any other group of men. It's very possible he did zero drugs, aren't black males in their 50's something like 3 1/2 times more likely to have a heart attack than a white male in his 50's? Unless I see medical proof he died from drugs it's all shens. He had tons of issues, but that doesn't mean he used any drugs.


Quoted for hilarity.

Hey hey now, Quebert is the all-knowing leader of the black man because he lived in the ghetto. He knows what he's talking about, he couldn't possibly be an ignorant jackass.
 

paulney

Diamond Member
Sep 24, 2003
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: mjrpes3
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Damn, At&T is saying that when the news broke about his death, the text messages increased to 65,000 messages per second on the network.

At $.40/text (paid for both directions), that's $26000/second. That's $820 billion a year. In no way are text message overpriced.

The kind of people who would rush to text their friends when Michael Jackson died are likely to have text message plans that are much cheaper than $.20 per text.

But yes, they are overpriced. The old $.10/$.02 pricing was much more reasonable.

Hey! I use that plan. And I get really pissed when friends start sending me their stupid messages. Pick up the phone and voice me, you lazy bums!
 

sunzt

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2003
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You know.... after watching a lot of his music videos, MJ was really a performer ahead of his time throughout his career. His dance and passion always evolved with this music and he always got better at them. There will never be a performer, dancer, or singer like him for a very, very long time. I am able to separate the artist from his personal life, and he will be missed.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: sunzt
You know.... after watching a lot of his music videos, MJ was really a performer ahead of his time throughout his career. His dance and passion always evolved with this music and he always got better at them. There will never be a performer, dancer, or singer like him for a very, very long time. I am able to separate the artist from his personal life, and he will be missed.

Likewise.

It didn't hit me much yesterday but after watching vids today etc, it sets in. He was probably the greatest music interpreter/singer/dancer/performer combination ever. He wasn't a writer and didn't play instruments, but he was pure musical and stage genius over 3+ decades.

His death is certainly a tragedy, but maybe not as much as his de-socialization over the last 10-15 years or so.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
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Well no average person can understand.
That is, to have extreme fame and more money than you can count screws people up.
Mostly the fame.
And since he started so young, his childhood was pretty much messed up from
the start.
No doubt his values were pretty screwed up also., if he had any as we know them.

But he's dead, so I've had enough of MJ media coverage.
Time to move on...
Its not like he was JFK (or Paris Hilton). :laugh:
 

TheSlamma

Diamond Member
Sep 6, 2005
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Originally posted by: SuperSix
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
About the child molestation thing...

Michael was never allowed to grow up due to his amazing fame. One his brothers told the story about how difficult it became for Michael since it was always "look out here come the girls"

This stunted emotional development most likely resulted in Michael's problems having adult relationships later in his life. Apparently people who fit Michael's profile have sexual relations with young children because they feel more comfortable with them than adults.

HE FUCKED CHILDREN.

Yes- it's appalling - it disgusts me that he is being put on a pedestal.

Yes, I realize he was a gargantuan talent, yes, I appreciated his music, but he was a horribly screwed up person, and the innocence he STOLE from those children will make sure his place in hell is reserved, and available.
Sheeple are people who buy into all the media coverage and label a person guilty until proven innocent. I hope you never get selected for a jury.
 

Dari

Lifer
Oct 25, 2002
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Am I the only one that finds it hard just to listen to his music? Seems like they're a 1000X better with his videos.
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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I love how the death of a homosexual pedophile trumps Iran in the evening news...

Our country is so messed up, it's pitiful.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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except, you know, replace homosexual pedophile with "greatest entertainer in a generation and one of the most famous people on the face of the earth."
 

herkulease

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Jul 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: paulney
I put on my wizard robe and a tinfoil hat.

What if it was a way for the organizer of his concerts to get out of the awful mess they got in. They promised 50 concerts. That is a shitload of concerts to perform, and a grueling task for any musician even in perfect health. And MJ's show were not a '2 guitars and a microphone' kind of gigs. People expected to see an all-out phantasmagoria when they bought the tickets, which were quite expensive. As far as I've read the organizers collected somewhat in the ballpark of 640 million of dollars.

Now they see that MJ is obviously in no condition to perform. He is a miserable old man with poor health and emotional issues. They have several options:
- cancel the concerts and refund all the money. Lose their investments into Michael and whatever they put into getting the show promoted and prepared. People demand their refunds.
- run the first 1-2 concerts. People will see that MJ is not at all what they expected to see. MJ collapses and is in no condition to perform any more. Organizers lose their investments. People demand their refunds.

But there's a third way out: keep MJ on meds until he overdoses. They keep pushing the concert dates as MJ keeps getting doctor-prescribed drugs. The star dies! Now all the sold tickets are a unique memorabilia! Tickets to the last Michael's concert that he never made! People will hold on to the tickets to pawn them off later. Organizers keep the profits. A legend is born.

Notice how: a) the doctor is nowhere to be found b) the organizers did not comment in any way how they are planning to refund people their money.

too bad the cops already found the doctor and by all accounts he's cooperating. He can't possibly hide forever. Seeing as how he left his car @ the house. They already know where his medical offices are and can easily find his home. Plaster his face on TV and you have more than enough Jackson fans who will hunt him down for you. Think of a recently movie featuring robots.

The Organizers didn't comment because they just don't know. Its been 2 days. I believe the 1st questions about refunds was within a few hours of his death. I think CNN has it on their website that the concert organizers are still on the hook for 500 million dollars. Paying people who setup stuff, ordering things and of course booking the arena to host the show. Which are now gonna be useless. I doubt the arena owners will be like sure we'll give your money back.

 

dud

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Feb 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I love how the death of a homosexual pedophile trumps Iran in the evening news...

Our country is so messed up, it's pitiful.



Sir, I cannot agree with you more. It is comments like this:

except, you know, replace homosexual pedophile with "greatest entertainer in a generation and one of the most famous people on the face of the earth."

... that makes me wonder how, as a species we have survived this long. People like Loki actually worship these people and mourn for them as if they have lost a wife or child. it is so sad.

Wait, can you hear it? ... it's the sound of whining, bitching and moaning comming from those who need to get a life ...
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: dud
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I love how the death of a homosexual pedophile trumps Iran in the evening news...

Our country is so messed up, it's pitiful.



Sir, I cannot agree with you more. It is comments like this:

except, you know, replace homosexual pedophile with "greatest entertainer in a generation and one of the most famous people on the face of the earth."

... that makes me wonder how, as a species we have survived this long. People like Loki actually worship these people and mourn for them as if they have lost a wife or child. it is so sad.

Wait, can you hear it? ... it's the sound of whining, bitching and moaning comming from those who need to get a life ...

You seriously need to get a life, and let the man rest in peace.

Regardless of what you may think or what the media made out of a peculiar man, be that as it may he as never guilty of anything. Judge as you may, but you're in no position to judge anybody.

What we, the ones that respect him as a musician, a brilliant artist, an entertainer for billions, remember him for what he was.

I certainly don't worship him, and certainly don't idolize him, but I respect him for his contribution to the entertainment industry and his style and influence is seen in just about every aspects of that. That's more than anyone can say about any of you pimple faced twits that's bashing him, even in his death. You guys are despicable, and you really need to re-evaluate your being and self worth.
 

sunzt

Diamond Member
Nov 27, 2003
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Originally posted by: dud
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I love how the death of a homosexual pedophile trumps Iran in the evening news...

Our country is so messed up, it's pitiful.



Sir, I cannot agree with you more. It is comments like this:

except, you know, replace homosexual pedophile with "greatest entertainer in a generation and one of the most famous people on the face of the earth."

... that makes me wonder how, as a species we have survived this long. People like Loki actually worship these people and mourn for them as if they have lost a wife or child. it is so sad.

Wait, can you hear it? ... it's the sound of whining, bitching and moaning comming from those who need to get a life ...

You can't really blame anyone for mourning MJ. The honest truth is that MJ has been a part of many people's lives ever since they were children. His music and cultural impact in the US and around the world has been something we have grown to see and follow. While the current in Iran is very important, it just does not have the developed personal attachment or influence that MJ has with his fans.

The Iran election just came into the limelight a couple weeks ago and many people still don't fully understand its impact. However, do not forgot that the west friendly Iranians also grew up with MJ, although a bit later. They likely mourn his death as well.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: dud
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I love how the death of a homosexual pedophile trumps Iran in the evening news...

Our country is so messed up, it's pitiful.



Sir, I cannot agree with you more. It is comments like this:

except, you know, replace homosexual pedophile with "greatest entertainer in a generation and one of the most famous people on the face of the earth."

... that makes me wonder how, as a species we have survived this long. People like Loki actually worship these people and mourn for them as if they have lost a wife or child. it is so sad.

Wait, can you hear it? ... it's the sound of whining, bitching and moaning comming from those who need to get a life ...

Give me a fvcking break. :roll: He was a great entertainer, possibly the best ever. If you can't handle that, keep working your 70 hours a week just so you can give it all to charity. Good thing about deaths of celebrities, is that it helps reveal who the real sad sack hypocrites of the world are.
 

dwell

pics?
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: jjsole
Give me a fvcking break. :roll: He was a great entertainer, possibly the best ever.

He was an amazing childhood star and Thriller was a record album, but pretty much everything he did after that was a downward spiral into eccentricity, sheltered existence, body altering, and possibly pedophilia.

The best thing for Michael would have been dying in 1984. He would have been immortalized like Jimi, Curt, and the rest of those who died in their prime. Instead he'll be remembered half for the Jackson 5/Thriller, half for being a freakshow.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: Chris
Originally posted by: jjsole
Give me a fvcking break. :roll: He was a great entertainer, possibly the best ever.

He was an amazing childhood star and Thriller was a record album, but pretty much everything he did after that was a downward spiral into eccentricity, sheltered existence, body altering, and possibly pedophilia.

The best thing for Michael would have been dying in 1984. He would have been immortalized like Jimi, Curt, and the rest of those who died in their prime. Instead he'll be remembered half for the Jackson 5/Thriller, half for being a freakshow.

Brutal. That's from the perspective of what you think would be best for his legacy, not him, which is pretty shallow. He put out the album 'Bad' after Thriller, which was a huge success, and then 'Dangerous', which sold quite a bit as well (but of course nothing came close to Thriller's success.)

That's not to mention writing 'we are the world' in '85, which made a huge impact in the future of bringing together star-power entertainers to help raise awareness/money for a cause.

No doubt his mentality for some reason began skewing to the eccentric/stange side in the '80's tho. I don't know if the cure for that was an earlier death, but its too bad it went in the direction it did.

Afaik, it was never proved he raped anyone (or even molested iirc). Cory Feldman said there were some inappropriate things like looking at naked adults together, but not molestation. The most recent case was proven that the 'victims' family claims were riddled with lies.
 
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