Michael Moore is THE MAN!!!!!!!!!

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Lookie Lookie!

HAHAHAHAA
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This is the crap I'm so tired of. Anyone who disagrees with the war/foreign policy or even dislikes the President is labelled communist, anti-American? It's this unthinking, mass-patriotism that makes dissent and disagreement less available, which, in turn, makes us LESS AMERICAN.

Well the fact of the matter is he is a communist and antiamerican. Take it from someone that grew up in the same area as him. He is definately a communist. Before he did Roger and me he even published a communist newspaper locally. Think it was called the Michigan Voice not positive on that one though. I also see his websites forums are down until further notice. For technical reasons <wink wink>

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Fvck him!

Nice to hear the boos too!

I agree!! What an idiot! :disgust:


: ) Amanda

get em amanda!

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: Codewiz
"FICTICOUS ELECTION RESULTS"

DUMBASS. He really has no idea what this country is about.......

No idea? It seems to me he's got the 'freedom of speech' part down pat.

Now if he can just learn the responsibilities part...

 

[NesuD]

Hahaha!! Looks like he has been getting hammered with email as well. The email Mike link on his page is now disabled.

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: konichiwa
Hmm, sounds a lot like the crap we've been seeing lately on FOX News..."protestors spit on American flag" <cut to interview of serviceman>, "protestors hate America" <cut to interview of cop who was beaten up by Seattle protestor-hippie>. Learn to make your OWN JUDGEMENTS people, EVERYTHING you see is tainted with its creators' biases.

?We Support Our Troops When They Shoot Their Officers.?

 

[jaspina]

Michael Moore is not the man. Michael Moore is an idiot. He is entitled to be an idiot, though.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: NightTrain

Originally posted by: konichiwa
Hmm, sounds a lot like the crap we've been seeing lately on FOX News..."protestors spit on American flag" <cut to interview of serviceman>, "protestors hate America" <cut to interview of cop who was beaten up by Seattle protestor-hippie>. Learn to make your OWN JUDGEMENTS people, EVERYTHING you see is tainted with its creators' biases.

?We Support Our Troops When They Shoot Their Officers.?

And you perpetuate the same crap...group all people who are anti-war (the majority of the WORLD's population, mind you) into categories with the whackos (who make up a very, very small population of anti-war people)

 

[FoBoT]

he is a publicity whore who makes money off of others tragedies

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: NesuD
Hahaha!! Looks like he has been getting hammered with email as well. The email Mike link on his page is now disabled.

I actually tried sending him a message last night but it came back with an error because his mailbox was full.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: CinderElmo MM can say whatever he wants...but to do it in such a venue which will be seen immediately by our soldiers in the Gulf is just unforgivable.

Oh please. Our soldiers in the Gulf are perfectly aware of the division over this war. Moore said nothing directly lambasting the troops.

Way to hedge your words.

I am sure it makes a huge difference that he was indirectly lambasting the troops?

His comments were highly inappropriate and juvenile. If he were half as intelligent as he thinks he is, he would have tried to "persuade" instead of going off like an idiot. Spouting like an idiot has a tendency to polarize listeners. Those who are already with you, will remain with you. Those against you will be further alienated. What did he gain? Nothing.

Overall, I don't understand why he is being lionized by some of the idiots who troll these forums. What did he really accomplish as far as furthering the cause?

At a minimum, he made himself a symbol of the anti-war movement that the pro-war guys can point at and demonize.

The anti-war movement does not need Michael Moore as its symbol, or are you such sheep that you will follow anyone to the slaughter?

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Moore has every right to commit financial suicide, just like the Dixie Chunk did.

They're now called the Baghdad Babes

 

[tcsenter]

1. An eligible documentary film is defined as a theatrically released non-fiction motion picture dealing creatively with cultural, artistic, historical, social, scientific, economic or other subjects. It may be photographed in actual occurrence, or may employ partial re-enactment, stock footage, stills, animation, stop-motion or other techniques, as long as the emphasis is on fact and not on fiction.

'Creative' isn't to be interpreted as permitting fundamental dishonesty and deception, which is of course strongly implied by closing words "as long as the emphasis is on fact and not on fiction'.

They're now called the Baghdad Babes.

Blixie Chicks.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Sketcher

Originally posted by: Spamela

i read responses from all sides. the right-wingers provide a counterpart to the lefty posts (and vice-versa).

IMHO, though, it just doesn't seem reasonable that moore's comments (or his documentaries) should elicit dozens of aggrieved posts, in various threads, unless you're actually afraid of his power to influence opinion.

Nor should his commentary or the subsequent aggrieved posts elicit responses that imply "fear" is what has everyone in an uproar. Is it that you are in fear of being somehow affected by your own interest in posting in a thread which you already think is preposterous? You know, you don't have to step into the water if the temperature is not to your liking.

It's been stated before: All nominee's were requested to refrain from making reference to the war. Anyone who supported a sentiment or statement regarding the war was encouraged to wear a ribbon or broach which indicated their position. The Academy Awards is not about grandstanding and providing a podium for personal political interest.

The initial praise which turned to boo's is representative of even Hollywood not appreciating the gesture which Michael Moore expressed and took too far, free speech or not. Further, he's still hung up on what he calls a "Fictitious President". Perhaps his "Fictitious" Oscar really wouldn't dent his skull if he's bashed in the head with it.

heh, talk in grandious terms of looking at both sides, all the issues and accusing someone for being afraid - you do realize this is a topic of interest regarding Michael Moore, right!? *cough* Don't tell me you think he's not one sided about anything...

i'm having trouble parsing your argument. i read all the posts & the ones critical of moore were over-the-top.

suppose someone (charlton heston, for ex) at the Oscar's had praised Bush, etc., & that some people on ATOT had posted over-the-top responses to it. would you still say:

The Academy Awards is not about grandstanding and providing a podium for personal political interest.

?

i think not.

 

[compudog]

Originally posted by: minus1972
"the teamsters are helping Michael Moore into the trunk of his limo." LOL

Such a loser!

 

[Ranger X]

I actually watched Bowling for Columbine. Not that he should care but what little respect I had for him is now gone.

MM getting Boo'ed was great! I wish they started playing the <get the hell off the stage> music well before his time was up.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: CinderElmo MM can say whatever he wants...but to do it in such a venue which will be seen immediately by our soldiers in the Gulf is just unforgivable.

Oh please. Our soldiers in the Gulf are perfectly aware of the division over this war. Moore said nothing directly lambasting the troops.

Way to hedge your words.

I am sure it makes a huge difference that he was <EM>indirectly</EM> lambasting the troops?

No, not that either. He (loudly) voiced his opinion regarding the president, his election into office, and his war on Iraq. I don't think he even mentioned the troops once...

His comments were highly inappropriate and juvenile. If he were half as intelligent as he thinks he is, he would have tried to "persuade" instead of going off like an idiot. Spouting like an idiot has a tendency to polarize listeners. Those who are already with you, will remain with you. Those against you will be further alienated. What did he gain? Nothing.

Okay...what does that have to do with my post?

Overall, I don't understand why he is being lionized by some of the idiots who troll these forums. What did he really accomplish as far as furthering the cause?

At a minimum, he made himself a symbol of the anti-war movement that the pro-war guys can point at and demonize.

The anti-war movement does not need Michael Moore as its symbol, or are you such sheep that you will follow anyone to the slaughter?

See above.

 

[Wheezer]

Oh please. Our soldiers in the Gulf are perfectly aware of the division over this war. Moore said nothing directly lambasting the troops.

I beg to differ.

The FIRST thing that goes through thier minds is that protesters ARE protesting them. How can they think that? Simple.

Even though you are "protesting the Bush" to them you are protesting their commander in chief. Thier boss. It is their job to follow his orders, you go against him you are going against them. THAT is how they view this.

Protesters cannot have it both ways. You protest the war or the president fine. But remember it is the troops out there fighting and dying for what they and our president believe to be the right course of action. How they view what you are doing is far more improtant than how you view it or you exercising your right to free speech. After all they are the ones who gave you that ability.

Am I saying not to go out and protest? Absolutely not, just remember there are consequences to your actions, perhaps when this is over when the troops come home they will spit on you versus the other way around.

 

[AAjax]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: tcsenter

I could make a documentary just like his where I portray Dogs as vicious animals and tell people they are fools for allowing them into their homes. All I have to do is interview people who have been bitten by dogs and find towns where there is an unusually large number of dog related injuries. Then I will tease them for awhile at a shelter and record them barking at me wanting to tear my head off. That's what he did in Bowling for Columbine

Very apt analogy, and dogs would be particularly easy to demonize, too. Don't forget to exploit human suffering for your dog-hating film, by showing some autopsy photos of badly mauled children. Oh, and toss in an interview or two of children with very visible and severe scars on their body. A few tears, crying mothers, an animated cartoon depicting the 'history' of fighting dogs, you're in the 'documentary' business!

Hmm, sounds a lot like the crap we've been seeing lately on FOX News..."protestors spit on American flag" <cut to interview of serviceman>, "protestors hate America" <cut to interview of cop who was beaten up by Seattle protestor-hippie>. Learn to make your OWN JUDGEMENTS people, EVERYTHING you see is tainted with its creators' biases.

Dosent make it right.... And I must say MM makes Fox news look "fair and ballanced"

 

[Jmman]

The only word that comes to mind is JACKASS!! :|

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: Wheezer

Oh please. Our soldiers in the Gulf are perfectly aware of the division over this war. Moore said nothing directly lambasting the troops.

I beg to differ.

The FIRST thing that goes through thier minds is that protesters ARE protesting them. How can they think that? Simple.

Because we're arguing fact, then the opinion of the troops doesn't matter. If we were arguing morale, well, that'd be a different argument.

Even though you are "protesting the Bush" to them you are protesting their commander in chief. Thier boss. It is their job to follow his orders, you go against him you are going against them. THAT is how they view this.

See above.

Protesters cannot have it both ways. You protest the war or the president fine. But remember it is the troops out there fighting and dying for what they and our president believe to be the right course of action. How they view what you are doing is far more improtant than how you view it or you exercising your right to free speech. After all they are the ones who gave you that ability.

"How they view what you are doing is far more improtant[sic] than how you view it or you exercising your right to free speech"

I beg to differ...I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. (Voltaire)

Am I saying not to go out and protest? Absolutely not, just remember there are consequences to your actions, perhaps when this is over when the troops come home they will spit on you versus the other way around.

Yet again, emotional responses filled with rhetoric. I have never spat on a soldier, burned an American Flag, or anything of that nature. Do I stand against this war? Yes. Do I support the troops who are simply following their orders and fighting for what they may or may not believe is right? Yes. Do I support President Bush in his war effort? No. I would hope that you, and others, can see the distinction between disagreeing with policy and spitting on soldiers...but apparently you can't.

 

[SilverThief]

Fvck that fat sack of sh|t and anybody who thinks what he did last night was a good thing.
:|
I personally wish he would get shot in the face, then run over repeatedly until he stops moving.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: SilverThief
Fvck that fat sack of sh|t and anybody who thinks what he did last night was a good thing.
:|
I personally wish he would get shot in the face, then run over repeatedly until he stops moving.

Yet another stunning representation of the pro-war community. Way to represent...

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: SilverThief
Fvck that fat sack of sh|t and anybody who thinks what he did last night was a good thing.
:|
I personally wish he would get shot in the face, then run over repeatedly until he stops moving.

Yet another stunning representation of the pro-war community. Way to represent...

Yet another generalization that the original poster is pro-war.

Maybe he just doesn't like people using celebrity status to further their political views. Maybe he thinks Michael Moore needs to get over the 2000 election. Maybe any number of other possibilities.

 

[BoberFett]

Any of you speculating on morale that have never served can just shut the hell up. If I were sitting in the middle of the desert and heard about Moore's stunt, I'd be that much more pissed off that he's the kind of jackass that I'm sworn to defend, which would make me kill the enemy with just that much more prejudice.

And once I was through being pissed off, I'd give him a special present. I'd find one of the Iraqi's I'd torn apart and hang a sign him that said "Michael Moore: This one's for you!" then find a reporter to take some photos of my handiwork.

Then again, I was never a very good soldier.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: SilverThief
Fvck that fat sack of sh|t and anybody who thinks what he did last night was a good thing.
:|
I personally wish he would get shot in the face, then run over repeatedly until he stops moving.

Yet another stunning representation of the pro-war community. Way to represent...

Yet another generalization that the original poster is pro-war.

Maybe he just doesn't like people using celebrity status to further their political views. Maybe he thinks Michael Moore needs to get over the 2000 election. Maybe any number of other possibilities.

#1:

freaks.
we should have dropped them on Bagdad as part of our "psywarfare tactics" Good lord, those fvcking Iraqi's wouldnt know what to do with 5,000 flaming, peace-loving, bridge jumping, vegan hippies.

Pretty much confirms he's pro-war

#2:

Now maybe those cry-baby Democrats like Daschole will shut up.

Pretty much confirms he's republican, or at least conservative/right.

#3

Iran, Syria, North Korea
Lets Roll!

Does that about sum it up for ya?