Michael Moore is THE MAN!!!!!!!!!

[bigdog1218]

I personally wish he would get shot in the face, then run over repeatedly until he stops moving.

Last time I checked, it was places like Iraq where the people are killed for voicing their opinion, I guess you and saddam got a lot more in common than you think.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Any of you speculating on morale that have never served can just shut the hell up. If I were sitting in the middle of the desert and heard about Moore's stunt, I'd be that much more pissed off that he's the kind of jackass that I'm sworn to defend, which would make me kill the enemy with just that much more prejudice.

Again, I quote Voltaire...I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

And once I was through being pissed off, I'd give him a special present. I'd find one of the Iraqi's I'd torn apart and hang a sign him that said "Michael Moore: This one's for you!" then find a reporter to take some photos of my handiwork.

Then again, I was never a very good soldier.

I always thought righties were the ones touting factual arguments not based in emotion?

 

[BoberFett]

konichiwa

I guess you must be as smart as Moore, and I'm obviously too dumb to understand what your point it.

Are you saying I'm a "rightie"? That I'm Voltaire? That I'm too emotional?

Your post made no sense.

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: Spamela

suppose someone (charlton heston, for ex) at the Oscar's had praised Bush, etc., & that some people on ATOT had posted over-the-top responses to it. would you still say:

The Academy Awards is not about grandstanding and providing a podium for personal political interest.

?

i think not.

Actually, I would still consider it inappropriate - it doesn't matter that I might agree with the individual. Take the subsequent nominee exhortations to task - there were a few who simply acknowledged a wish for a swift, peaceful resolution. There isn't a political camp on either side who would argue with wanting a swift, peaceful resolution. Yet, the point is that all nominee's and speakers were asked not to express ANY comment about the war - which makes even references to "a swift and peaceful resolution" out of order, unwarranted and unwanted in that environment - even if popular.

Further, even if someone expressed my views of war or other politics during an acceptance speech - the fact that I agree with their viewpoint does not cloud the indignation of their inappropriate expression. In fact, I would prefer that nominee's/speakers WOULD NOT express my viewpoints in the manner you mention - there is a time and place for standing on a soap box. That is not the time or place, and my causes are not helped by disrespectful exploitation.

 

[wnied]

Michael Moore is THE MAN!!!!!

Fvck him and fvck you too for thinking that what he did was appropriate in any way. There are better and more responsible ways to show your anti-war or anti-Bush beliefs than to make an ass out of yourself at a ceremony and force others to hear your beliefs. I for one do not share his beliefs, and from now on wont patronize anything he has to do with.

What an irresponsible asshole.
~wnied~

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: LordJezo

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Fvck him!

Nice to hear the boos too!

lets change his name:

michael mooron

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: SilverThief
Fvck that fat sack of sh|t and anybody who thinks what he did last night was a good thing.
:|
I personally wish he would get shot in the face, then run over repeatedly until he stops moving.

Yet another stunning representation of the pro-war community. Way to represent...

But what happened to "And you perpetuate the same crap..."

My goodness it must just be a matter of whose ox is being gored eh?

What grates on the protestors when faced with the pictures of the vermin within their ranks is that alot of them really don't want a quick and easy end to the war. They prefer it to drag on and damage Bush even if it means American lives are lost. They may not want to admit it, but it's there. In a sense, they aren't a bit different than someone who holds up a sign calling for the deaths of our troops.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
konichiwa

I guess you must be as smart as Moore, and I'm obviously too dumb to understand what your point it.

Are you saying I'm a "rightie"? That I'm Voltaire? That I'm too emotional?

Your post made no sense.

Read it again, in the context of this thread. It made perfect sense.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: BoberFett
konichiwa

I guess you must be as smart as Moore, and I'm obviously too dumb to understand what your point it.

Are you saying I'm a "rightie"? That I'm Voltaire? That I'm too emotional?

Your post made no sense.

Read it again, in the context of this thread. It made perfect sense.

Uh, no.

First, what does quoting Voltaire have anything to do with anything? Voltaire said that because it was his personal belief. Our military is not run by Voltaire.

Second, since when is anybody not allowed to have emotions? That's what the entire anti-war argument is - an emotional appeal.

Finally, I'm not a "rightie", fool. If you want to insist that I am, go right ahead. It's like hoisting your ignorance on a flagpole for everyone to see.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: BoberFett
konichiwa

I guess you must be as smart as Moore, and I'm obviously too dumb to understand what your point it.

Are you saying I'm a "rightie"? That I'm Voltaire? That I'm too emotional?

Your post made no sense.

Read it again, in the context of this thread. It made perfect sense.

Uh, no.

First, what does quoting Voltaire have anything to do with anything? Voltaire said that because it was his personal belief. Our military is not run by Voltaire.

Second, since when is anybody not allowed to have emotions? That's what the entire anti-war argument is - an emotional appeal.

Finally, I'm not a "rightie", fool. If you want to insist that I am, go right ahead. It's like hoisting your ignorance on a flagpole for everyone to see.

I quoted Voltaire in order to point out a fallacy in your argument ... we prop our troops up to be righteous defenders of free speech, "support the soldiers because they give you the right to voice your dissent" but at the same time "don't voice your dissent because it undermines support for the soldiers" ... it's illogical. Voltaire's got it right, you don't.

And as for the "rightie" comment, I wasn't suggesting you are a "rightie," only pointing out that your views coincide with most right-wingers...take it as you may

 

[BoberFett]

I still don't see what Voltairian philosophy has to do with anything. That quote is a general tenet of the libertarian point of view, and has nothing to do with either left or right thinking. The right wants the left to shut up (being the fascists they are), and the left wouldn't give their life up for anything (being the spineless worms they are). Neither side lives by that quote, so it has no relevance.

And far as calling me a "rightie" goes, if you can't see that you called me one, then you're a fool not even worth arguing with. You and Moonbeam can back to anally pleasuring one another with "No War For Oil" signs.

 

[BoberFett]

BTW, as far as the "anally pleasuring" comment, I'm not suggesting that you like to take it up the rear. Just that your choice of sexual behavior coincides with people who do like to take it up the rear.

 

[AAjax]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
BTW, as far as the "anally pleasuring" comment, I'm not suggesting that you like to take it up the rear. Just that your choice of sexual behavior coincides with people who do like to take it up the rear.

LOL!

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: konichiwa
I quoted Voltaire in order to point out a fallacy in your argument ... we prop our troops up to be righteous defenders of free speech, "support the soldiers because they give you the right to voice your dissent" but at the same time "don't voice your dissent because it undermines support for the soldiers" ... it's illogical. Voltaire's got it right, you don't.

And as for the "rightie" comment, I wasn't suggesting you are a "rightie," only pointing out that your views coincide with most right-wingers...take it as you may

Here's one of the more vocal right wingers:

Peter Jennings to Democratic Senator Joe Biden: ?A large number of people in the country are opposed to this...but look to members of the Democratic party, particularly, to be sort of their port in a storm, their place to manifest their dissatisfaction.? Biden retorted that protesters should not look to him to denounce U.S. policy during wartime: ?They?ve got the wrong port....The decision?s been made.?

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
BTW, as far as the "anally pleasuring" comment, I'm not suggesting that you like to take it up the rear. Just that your choice of sexual behavior coincides with people who do like to take it up the rear.

Ah yes, the obligatory sexual preference joke. Excellent way to play the "preteen internet user" card as well as make yourself look like a complete fool. Bravo!

 

[Noirish]

misuse of publicity.

nuff said.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: BoberFett
I still don't see what Voltairian philosophy has to do with anything. That quote is a general tenet of the libertarian point of view, and has nothing to do with either left or right thinking. The right wants the left to shut up (being the fascists they are), and the left wouldn't give their life up for anything (being the spineless worms they are). Neither side lives by that quote, so it has no relevance.

And far as calling me a "rightie" goes, if you can't see that you called me one, then you're a fool not even worth arguing with. You and Moonbeam can back to anally pleasuring one another with "No War For Oil" signs.

Same goes for you. You've degraded this into name calling and generalization, not me. And you think you're the righteous one...hah. I'm done with this conversation; I have more fun arguing with etech than you.

 

[Gnurb]

My interpretation of Bowling for Columbine's answer to the violence problem, is that America needs improved and widened social services.

In his acceptance speech, I think he was saying that Bush was falsely elected because what seems logical is that the person with more physical votes, regardless of winning a state or not, would win the presidency. This didn't happen obviously.

 

[Moonbeam]

Oh dear, who's going to anally pleasure me now. What happened, Bober, did I accidentally poke my 'no war for oil' sign in your ass? Terribly sorry old chap. I don't have access to all the latest precision guided technology.

By the way, I thought the war wasn't about oil directly, but a New American Century.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Gnurb
My interpretation of Bowling for Columbine's answer to the violence problem, is that America needs improved and widened social services.

In his acceptance speech, I think he was saying that Bush was falsely elected because what seems logical is that the person with more physical votes, regardless of winning a state or not, would win the presidency. This didn't happen obviously.

I think Moore was intimating that Bush 'stole' the election by virtue of the Supreme Court's decision.

Sour grapes.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Oh dear, who's going to anally pleasure me now. What happened, Bober, did I accidentally poke my 'no war for oil' sign in your ass? Terribly sorry old chap. I don't have access to all the latest precision guided technology.

By the way, I thought the war wasn't about oil directly, but a New American Century.

I suspect we'll never touch the oil, except to buy it @ market value when Iraq is brought kicking & screaming, along with the rest of the Middle East into the 21st century.

There was an interesting bit on NPR tonight talking about how the Arab states don't even like to trade with each other for goods, slapping a 20% tariff on everything to inhibit trade.

They don't belong to the WTO because they don't want to be forced to trade with Israel.

MM is still a tool nonetheless... I loved what Jon Stewart did to him tonight on the Comedy Channel

 

[PreDatoR]

Moore is nothing but a friggin' idiot... to stand up there and bash the american gov the pres and in so many words everyone who don't think like him like he did... the twat needs to be dropped off in central bagdad so saddam and his son's can rape him till the fatass dies...

 

[BoberFett]

konichiwa

You started the name calling, I just upped the ante.

 

[Moonbeam]

Could you update us on the particular insult you upped the ante on, Bober. Was it the one where he called you a dastardly 'rightie', cause if it is, I know I would have been just emotionally crushed. I was wondering because right after you mention 'rightie' you call him a fool. I found it especially interesting because if you got all wound tight about being called, like way way way out of left field a rightie without any justification or provocation at all and you found that deeply offensive, I was just wondering how you'd take somebody telling you to go back and pleasure Tominator's behind. I guess stuff like that's OK when you're upping the ante, huh. .

 

[Pers]

Moore is the MAN...

This forum has opened my eyes as to how easily people (idiots) can be influenced to buy into anything...no matter how ridiculous it may be.

Some of you are willing to defend this war as if had we not taken action against Iraq, the whole world order would be at jeopardy, provided you have not a shred

of tangible evidence Iraq is a threat to anyone.